Jonathan Fairfield Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Second hand car dealers who ripped off 52 people arrested after 5 years on the run Image: Daily News Police in Chiang Mai announced they had finally arrested a married couple involved in swindling 52 people. Anucha "Teng" Dorkmaingam, 55, and his wife Warawee or Suthicha Suphan, 39, were arrested at a Chiang Mai restaurant. They had been on the run for five years after they ripped off people in a scam connected to the selling of second hand cars at their "S. Suthicha" dealership in Tha Phor sub-district of the northern Thai city. They blamed the economy and - appropriately enough - being unable to keep up with their instalments. Source: Daily News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-07-17 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Time to trade in your amulet, it doesn't work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Surprised there is any room left for doggy car dealers in the online fake world here seize that wok hob and fridge as payment???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 27 minutes ago, PatOngo said: Time to trade in your amulet, it doesn't work! Make sure you only buy from a reputable amulet dealer, avoid the scammers. The new ones with rechargeable AA batteries are the best buy. Still under under development is a solar-powered version, although not recommended for drink-driving at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike787 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 It's Thailand, expect it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianezy0 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Second hand car dealers who ripped off 52 people arrested after 5 years on the run. Thats not even 1 victim per month. I would sack them if I was the boss ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Unless you know the one Old Lady owner from new you should NEVER buy a second hand car in Thailand ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, trainman34014 said: Unless you know the one Old Lady owner from new you should NEVER buy a second hand car in Thailand ! I'm just not old enough to have known the old lady owner from new. I bet she was twenty when I was born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Thailand's Arfur Daley .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Generally i have found the price of 2nd hand cars here very high,better to spend a few hundred thousand more if you can and get a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 He did not run very far,still in Chiang Mai,where he ripped people off, maybe one came into his restaurant,and that's how the police were able to find him. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 43 minutes ago, marko kok prong said: Generally i have found the price of 2nd hand cars here very high,better to spend a few hundred thousand more if you can and get a new one. You are correct. Thailand's second hand vehicle market is odd. My theory is that second-hand prices are kept high by :- 1. the fact that so many people here buy vehicles they can barely afford when one looks at all costs versus their income. 2. the fact that the Tor Ror Or (vehicle inspection) is a joke so old bangers can be kept on the road forever. 3. the fact that repair costs, particularly labour, are low meaning vehicles can be kept running and repaired without breaking the bank. It is strange though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 48 minutes ago, Briggsy said: You are correct. Thailand's second hand vehicle market is odd. My theory is that second-hand prices are kept high by :- 1. the fact that so many people here buy vehicles they can barely afford when one looks at all costs versus their income. 2. the fact that the Tor Ror Or (vehicle inspection) is a joke so old bangers can be kept on the road forever. 3. the fact that repair costs, particularly labour, are low meaning vehicles can be kept running and repaired without breaking the bank. It is strange though. in my opinion, it's Western car markets that are strange, where car loses 25% value just by rolling out of the cardealer's . Westerners, particularly Europeans, get ripped off on car repairs and spare parts. I wouldn't count a car as durable good in Europe, nowadays it's more of a consumer good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 36 minutes ago, manarak said: where car loses 25% value just by rolling out of the cardealer's . This also happens in Thailand. It is what happens after that that I find strange. The glide curve is much shallower and may plateau at around 25% (this figure varies by model) of the original purchase price. In the West, a 10-year old model that runs fine is virtually given away. Certainly, in the West, labour costs and original parts make vehicle maintenance costs high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Noobie Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 8 hours ago, ianezy0 said: Second hand car dealers who ripped off 52 people arrested after 5 years on the run. Thats not even 1 victim per month. I would sack them if I was the boss ???? Hmm how you calculate this? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuketshrew Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 9 hours ago, sammieuk1 said: Surprised there is any room left for doggy car dealers in the online fake world here seize that wok hob and fridge as payment???? Are you sure you're not getting confused with "dogging", which I believe is a sport carried out in the English countryside. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianezy0 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 50 minutes ago, Thailand Noobie said: Hmm how you calculate this? ???? Nooo...you can’t be serious....OK 5 years =60 months. 52 people = 0.867 people per month....Zzzzzxxxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 A used car dealer only swindled 52 people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Noobie Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 13 hours ago, ianezy0 said: Nooo...you can’t be serious....OK 5 years =60 months. 52 people = 0.867 people per month....Zzzzzxxxx But I think they didn't swindle anyone within 5yrs when they were on the run... And there are no mention how long they was doing this before they run... ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mukdahanman Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 22 hours ago, marko kok prong said: Generally i have found the price of 2nd hand cars here very high,better to spend a few hundred thousand more if you can and get a new one. Spot on - same for bikes too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mukdahanman Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 9 hours ago, gk10002000 said: A used car dealer only swindled 52 people? Clearly amateurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When you know Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 14 hours ago, gk10002000 said: A used car dealer only swindled 52 people? I guess he can rule out politics for his next career move, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 On 7/17/2019 at 3:49 PM, Briggsy said: You are correct. Thailand's second hand vehicle market is odd. My theory is that second-hand prices are kept high by :- 1. the fact that so many people here buy vehicles they can barely afford when one looks at all costs versus their income. 2. the fact that the Tor Ror Or (vehicle inspection) is a joke so old bangers can be kept on the road forever. 3. the fact that repair costs, particularly labour, are low meaning vehicles can be kept running and repaired without breaking the bank. It is strange though. It's a rigged market, nothing else. Some time ago, I bought a Mitsubishi Triton pickup in Australia. Manufactured in Thailand, it cost 19,000 AUD. The same Triton, with fewer options and minus the cost of shipping to Australia, at that time in Thailand cost 23,500 AUD. If someone can explain that differential without manipulation being present, I'm all ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Lacessit said: It's a rigged market, nothing else. Some time ago, I bought a Mitsubishi Triton pickup in Australia. Manufactured in Thailand, it cost 19,000 AUD. The same Triton, with fewer options and minus the cost of shipping to Australia, at that time in Thailand cost 23,500 AUD. If someone can explain that differential without manipulation being present, I'm all ears. Thailand use AUD ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Don Mega said: Thailand use AUD ? I am giving comparative prices in AUD. If you want them in Thai baht, go to xe.com. For crying out loud, put your thinking cap on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Lacessit said: I am giving comparative prices in AUD. If you want them in Thai baht, go to xe.com. For crying out loud, put your thinking cap on. Yeah comparing vehicle costs in different countries aint comparing apples to apples due to exchange rates and vehicle/country spec differences. But hey what ever floats your boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Lacessit said: It's a rigged market, nothing else. Some time ago, I bought a Mitsubishi Triton pickup in Australia. Manufactured in Thailand, it cost 19,000 AUD. The same Triton, with fewer options and minus the cost of shipping to Australia, at that time in Thailand cost 23,500 AUD. If someone can explain that differential without manipulation being present, I'm all ears. I thought we were talking about 2nd hand prices. Now, you are talking about new prices. Everybody knows new vehicles are more expensive in Thailand than overseas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 8 hours ago, Briggsy said: I thought we were talking about 2nd hand prices. Now, you are talking about new prices. Everybody knows new vehicles are more expensive in Thailand than overseas. Higher new car prices mean secondhand prices will follow suit. I am making the point, which a couple of posters don't seem to understand, that the higher new prices here, on cars manufactured here, are manipulated. Add to that the extreme difficulty of importing a secondhand car to Thailand, whereas countries such as Myanmar and New Zealand welcome imports. It's called protectionism. Second hand cars here are priced on year and kilometres travelled. As winding back odometers is a national sport, and regular servicing is optional for many Thais, the secondhand market is fraught with difficulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 5 years in such a small country, that has national a national ID system! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Car dealers would rob their own grandmothers the world over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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