webfact Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Hazardous substances committee agrees to conditional ban of three herbicides Thailand’s National Hazardous Substances Committee is ready to ban the use of paraquat, glyphosate and chlorpyrifos on the condition that alternatives to the three herbicides are less hazardous, effective and affordable for the farmers, said committee chairman Mr. Apijin Chotikasathien, who is also deputy permanent secretary of industry, today (Wednesday). The committee also gave the Ministry of Agriculture and Agricultural Cooperatives 60 days to find alternative chemicals and to try to build understanding between the state, the importers of the three herbicides, farmers and consumers about the negative impacts of the toxic substances. Mr. Apijin said that the Agricultural Technique Department has so far maintained that there are no alternatives to the three herbicides which are equally effective, less hazardous and reasonably affordable. Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/hazardous-substances-committee-agrees-to-conditional-ban-of-three-herbicides/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2019-09-19 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unamazedloso Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Just ban them. Alternatives are hard work! If the farmers cant deal with physical work, or pay some one else, they shouldnt be farmers! Its cheaper not to use them. Laziness is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerjo Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Farming is a business like any other.There will be no alternatives from the deputy minister. Some people will be disappointed at the office when they go to the dispenser machine and nothing comes out. I would have a good laugh if ink was to be found toxic and banned in 60 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, unamazedloso said: Just ban them. Alternatives are hard work! If the farmers cant deal with physical work, or pay some one else, they shouldnt be farmers! Its cheaper not to use them. Laziness is the problem. Do you want to pay a higher price for them? because Thais are lazy to do this work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 5 hours ago, webfact said: Mr. Apijin said that the Agricultural Technique Department has so far maintained that there are no alternatives to the three herbicides which are equally effective, less hazardous and reasonably affordable. Rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loong Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Isn't chlorpyrifos a pesticide, to kill insects, not a herbicide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 8 hours ago, webfact said: The committee also gave the Ministry of Agriculture and Agricultural Cooperatives 60 days to find alternative chemicals July 2019 - already had begun: http://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news/detail/TCATG190716112753527 As a result of conflict over the use of agricultural chemicals including glyphosate, paraquat, and Chlophyriphos, the Ministry of Agriculture and Cooperatives (MOAC) has accelerated research on alternatives to these three types of chemical substances. The research has been funded by the Office of Agricultural Research Development (Public Organization). It will take about two years to reach a clear conclusion. The Minister of Agriculture and Cooperatives, has therefore, ordered the MOAC Permanent Secretary and the Department of Agriculture to accelerate research or coordinate with various organizations or agencies to search for other substances or methods to replace the three types of chemicals as soon as possible, in case no other alternative has been found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 8 hours ago, webfact said: Thailand’s National Hazardous Substances Committee is ready to ban the use of paraquat, glyphosate and chlorpyrifos Maybe not so simple of such act. Reading the Hazardous Substance Act of 1992*, it seems to me that the NHSC can make the resolution and recommendation for the ban and any related policies to such ban. But there must be a Royal Decree to make the ban legally binding. Such decree I believe requires PM Prayut to present the decree for Royal approval and publication in the Government Gazette. So the committee being "ready" doesn't seem all that final. There is also a question as to who is ready to make the ban. Under Chapter 1 Section 6 of the law I count 34 committee members including the Permanent Secretary of the Ministry of Industry as Chairperson. A quorum of half (17?) is required for a meeting and a simple majority (9?) is required to pass committee policy. That would seem to leave much room for dissent within and outside of the committee not to mention political pressure from "influential" people on the committee. There is no mention of the committee vote on the ban policy in the article. For transparency and accountability purposes, such detail should be published for such a major national policy. Especially if the vote was very close to ban, if the committee was operating with minimal members present or even in violation of the required quorum. * https://www.jetro.go.jp/ext_images/thailand/e_activity/pdf/hazsubact2535.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyFingers Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 6 hours ago, unamazedloso said: Just ban them. Alternatives are hard work! If the farmers cant deal with physical work, or pay some one else, they shouldnt be farmers! Its cheaper not to use them. Laziness is the problem. If you do not use them they are of no harm to you. Feel free to offer your services of physical work. For free, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 7 hours ago, unamazedloso said: Just ban them. Alternatives are hard work! If the farmers cant deal with physical work, or pay some one else, they shouldnt be farmers! Its cheaper not to use them. Laziness is the problem. Obviously are not, and never have been a farmer in Thailand. But you are a keyboard warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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