kawaiimomo
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Thanks for the replies guys, appreciated ;-)
KNJ, I will check that shop on Petchaburi.
Aleg, very kind of you to take the time to update about the shops there. Too bad sailboats don't seem popular :-P hobby king is great but for the shipping costs for the boats I would think they are shipping from one of the international warehouses, most likely in Europe. It would be nice if they said from where exactly will a particular item shop from.
Jdinasia, thay would be awesome although I am afraid they buy online.
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I would like to give a try to those nice radio controlled sailboats, I used to fly planes and have a very decent transmitter, receiver and lots of LiPo batteries. All the online or physical Thai shops I saw carry mostly helicopters, planes and, if lucky, some cars and racing boats. It looks like all the people is either building the boats from scratch or purchasing kits from Europe (one is slow and may discourage a beginner and the second is expensive).
I wonder if there is some aficionado here who could give some tips on where to get a decent entry level sailboat in Bangkok or from a Thai online shop. Not too small or too big, wooden or fiber glass kit. If possible I would like to reuse my electronic components so a kit with just the boat and the servos would be perfect (for what I see most of the kits come with the radio equipment already and, since I already have it, I would like to cut that cost).
A chinese or regional online retailer would be ok too, still cheaper and faster than get it from Europe or the US (I only found chinese wholesalers). I found this Bangkok based group https://th-th.facebook.com/rcscthai and I know there is also Pattaya and Phuket based ones but for now I just want to try it by myself and their sailing places are too far from me anyway.
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Thanks Ubonjoe, it was the company lawyer by the way
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I always applied to Labour Department for my WP in my previous company. For my new company they use That One Stop Service and the lawyer told me they don't accept the education and job experience form from Labour.
I am just curious about the differences from both places and why this company can't apply at Labour but must do it on this one Stop Service (boi maybe?).
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I myself get my non-B after applying for the WP while in Thailand. Then brought the WP receipt to Vientiane, get the visa, came back and collected the WP. This last time I got my non-B from Singapore because they don't require the WP application receipt. Still I believe some embassies accept either the WP receipt or a letter from Labour, isn't it like that?
Back on topic, the company did try to apply for the WP using the form WP3 instead of the WP1. I guess the lesson learned for this guy is not to trust some staff in small companies. I myself corrected the girl who was doing my first WP application several times, and it was me who needed to explain her how you need the WP receipt before you can get the non-B in the nearby embassies (thanks goes to Thaivisa on this one ;-)
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Best is to go early morning, and another tip is to take a motorcycle taxi to go to the main road is you don't want to wait the taxis inside (just tell them pai thanon yai). Still, if you get out of there at 5 or 6 pm you are screwed, because there is crazy traffic jam and very very difficult to hail a taxi. I had similar experience when went there around 11 to do a non-B extension and finished around 5:30 pm.
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wobalt, have you personally used the certificate issued by one of those small clinics successfully in Bangkok? I just wonder because it looks like some years ago they stopped accepting those certificates issued without any actual test being made. I would certainly prefer to pay 80 baht ;-)
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Thanks, most likely they used the wrong form. I will find out and report back if they used the right one.
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A friend who was staying on a 30 days visa exemption stamp found a job. The company went to apply for the WP and the labour officer asked if the guy was in Thailand. The girl from the company said yes and the officer refused accepting the application.
I think somewhere in the application form says the alien must not be in Thailand but I did it this way (except I was with a tourist visa) and I reckon most people do it this way too. This guy is now in Lao until the company applies for the WP and send him the receipt and the papers to apply for the non-B. Is it just that they are getting stricter?
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Thanks Marcel. Just came here, was done in 15 min and now waiting 1 hour for the results. Cost was 440 baht. As an anecdote the doctor saw my Spanish passport and did the check up in Spanish as he studied in Chile, very nice experience and service.
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Thanks for your suggestions and for sharing your opinions with me.
I will try to find my real father. It is also a personal matter, not only matter of burocracy and visas.
Can I ask to an Admin to kindly remove some too personal elements from my first post, as I would like to avoid that someone that I know in real life could possibly get to know this. Thank you, I am sorry but I wrote too much with 'open heart' without thinking of the consequences.
Thank you very much indeed.
Also to remove the thread is OK for me. Sorry again.
You can use the edit button to edit the post. Good luck to you in finding your Thai father, I would guess it will be lengthy and costly.
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When you go for a new extension, you don't think they might look at your passport, see your last extension stamp then cross reference?
You think Immigration don't keep records on their computers?
Extensions of Permission to Stay based on Working in the Kingdom of Thailand are always passed to the immigration regional head office for approval during the one month conditional period.
As I posted previously, if you followied this route you might get away with it, but I wouldn't guarantee.
For sure they keep records, but if Immigration doesn't explicitly request the information to Labour then it is impossible for them to notice that the extension became invalid when the WP expired. Looking at the passport and their own computers it should be impossible to notice it, as I don't recall the officer typing anything on the computer when she discovered that the extension was invalid. Also, the options I was given by them was to pay the overstay or to leave the country and get a new visa. I'll keep my fingers crossed anyway ;-)
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I was in a strange situation to begin with: WP expired and new was made so the extension was not valid anymore, and I left the country without cancelling the WP http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/757582-leaving-without-cancelled-wp-and-extension/?p=8384077
I exited Thailand via Suvarnabhumi without any issue at all, then proceed to the Thai embassy in Singapore. I had all the company papers in order so I wasn't worried at all. To my surprise I was required to show the WP from my previous company which I wasn't even carrying. I told them that the WP was with the company and that they were going to cancel it that same week. They ask me them to show a proof of cancelation and I replied it wasn't cancelled yet, so again they asked to see the WP and dismissed me from the counter. At that point I was already in full panic mode thinking I did the trip to that expensive and sterile country for nothing :-(
The officer told me that they are more strict now and was pointing at a red stamp in my previous visa issued at Vientiane that reads: Remark: The applicant is advised to apply for work permit which should be presented to the authorities next time. On the embassy webpage they also list a requirement saying: Copy of Work Permit issued by the Ministry of Labour and Social Welfare (only in case the applicant has previously worked in the Kingdom) but the new company lawyer said this was only if I worked for them previously. Anyway, the officer was pointing at that red stamp next to the visa.
Luckily I requested my previous employee a termination letter stating I will be finishing the job by the end of this month, so I put all my hopes on that piece of paper, jumped the queue and approached the same officer (the infamous muslim woman BTW) asking if that paper would suffice. She read it and finally accepted the application. She even joked with me when I asked if I could borrow the glue stick, telling me that I could not, otherwise how would the rest of applicants be able to use it
I don't know if that red stamp was from the embassy on Lao or from the immigration at the border but not even the company lawyer gave any importance to it. In my case I wasn't carrying the WP because it would have revealed my particular situation about the gap between WP and the invalid extension. Luckily everything went well, collected my passport next day at 2 pm and came back to Thailand. After this trip I realized how much I like it here, what a serious face and pathetic non existant service in most people and places on Singapore, I would kill myself if I had to live there
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Thanks to all for the replies. I exited on the last day of the extension via Suvarnabhumi without any issue at the passport control. I had the problems at the Thai embassy in Singapore because they requested my current WP or proof of cancelation, I will write a report post now.
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The fact that your current employer couldn't persuade labour to keep the old WP alive meant that your Case 2.1 Extension expired back on June 19th, which sets you up for a 20,000 THB overstay.
Option 1:
Don't go back to Immigration and exit Thailand.
Your current extension expires on the 9th September, so plan to exit Thailand around then with the papers to apply for a single entry non 'b' from your new employer along with an introduction letter stating that you will start work in October.
Take your current WP and keep your fingers crossed, you might just get away with it.
Problem is that your local immigration dept is on to you and wants to nail you for an overstay, this could come back to haunt you.
Option 2:
Go back to immigration and bite the bullet - insist that your employer pays the overstay as it's 100% their fault.
Option 1 (which is what you are proposing to do) is risky because immigration will probably catch up with you when you go back for an extension with your new employer.
Option 2 gives you a 'clean sheet' since black listing is not yet on the statute books.
I took the option 1 and I was back with a new non-B and stamped for the usual 3 months. How is it possible for immigration to catch up with me when doing the extension on a different job? I don't think they have any info related to my previous WPs so it should be impossible for them to notice the gap between them.
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Kluay nam thai hospital at rama 4. Cost 400 bht.
Thanks, sounds good, how long did it take?
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I used to do it at the Police General Hospital but they kept charging me around 1800 despite the fact I am paying the social security fund every month. I tried to argue with them with no luck, not sure if it is not really covered.
So this time I want to do it somewhere else where it is cheaper but with guarantees that it would be accepted. Can anyone share the name of a hospital?
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Thanks paz!
Let's hope everything goes fine and I am back in 3 days with my new non-B and start my new job with a more serious company that won't make me go through this stressful situation again :-)
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I was under the assumption if one was to go on holidays with a valid work permit and current extension they required a re-entry permit. If they do not have one then the extension of stay would be cancelled upon returning (or exiting). As such the immigration officers could ask why no re-entry permit and if you advise your job has been cancelled or you are not working anymore could they not ask you to return to immigration and follow the protocols on cancelling a work permit and extension of stay.
just curious as I have heard this is possible?
I also would like to know the answer to this as I am exactly in that situation, plus overstay because there is a 2 week gap between previous and current WP (company forgot to renew it) thus the extension is not really valid although it looks valid on the passport if you don't check it with the WP.
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I will try to sum up my situation:
- Old WP expired on June 19th, new one was made (15 days in between)
- Extension in passport shows until September 9th (but obviously is not valid since June 19th)
- Will leave on monday or tuesday (Sept 8th or 9th) to apply on Singapore for a new non-B for a different company
- Current WP is not cancelled
- Obviously I also don't have a cancellation stamp on the extension
What are the chances of getting stop at Suvarnabhumi or Don Mueang? Any recommendations other than having the 20k ready?
I actually tried to extend the extension of stay because I am still on the 30 day notice period. The officer noticed the WP was just 2 months old and the extension was going on for over 2 years, so she realized there was a gap. I was offered to pay the overstay for that gap and extend again but the company documents were not updated as of August so I couldn't do it. I explained the whole thing to the new company and they offered to sponsor the new visa in Singapore (there because no labour letter or WP application receipt required).
Now I am reading some people had problems when leaving due to not having the extension cancelled, so I started panicking. I guess the best case-scenario is that nothing happens as they will just see the 'valid in passport' extension stamp. What is the worst one? I am thinking about cancelling the WP and/or getting a termination letter from my current company. But cancelling the current extension would mean paying the overstay as they would notice it stopped being valid since almost 80 days ago (honestly, my current financial situation could benefit from avoiding the fine although I am willing to pay beforehand if that could save some trouble).
What would you do?? Need help please :-/
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If I was you I would leave country and come back with a non-imm 'B' if possible. Then hang on somehow until the paperwork from the new company is ready and go from there.
That will you will put a firm end to any possibility of overstay and fine. In any case a 15 days overstay would never be punished with banning.
By the way the rules with with they are unduly menacing for overstay will actually make easier for people to switch jobs.
Thanks paz, I actually find this to be the most safe practice. The real issue I guess it is how the overstay is counted: Is it the 15 days between WP? Or is it the 71 days since the first WP expired? Because, technically speaking I feel that the visa extension stopped being valid since the first WP expired but that, somehow, they can overlook this if you pay the WPs gap overstay if it's less than 40 days. My understanding is that until I don't get the extension sorted the real overstay is since the first WP expiration (and it is uncomfortably close to those 90 days).
To be honest, I feel like applying for the new company WP, leave and get a new non-B, collect my WP and screw the current company for putting me in this situation. I guess the only thing that holds me is to thing that it was also my fault to not realize the WP was about to expire.
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@Martouf, I would be very careful if I was your friend. I was today at Chaeng Wattana to extend my non-B based on my WP and they found out I/company let the previous WP expire so I am technically in overstay. The officer found it was very funny that these new rules started being enforced today. I was handled a document to acknowledge that 90 days overstay = 1 year blacklisted if you surrender yourself (I guess immigration, border or airport), and I was explained that it would be enforced from today. BTW this was the head of business visa extensions section at Bangkok immigration, so I would assume she knows what she was talking about.
Practically speaking, for a Thai immigration or police officer to ban anyone from entering Thailand all he/she has to do is login with the right credentials and key in something. That has always existed and there is evidence that occasionally it has been done even without a sound legal basis.
Now, I think that is a task normally reserved to specialized police officers that execute courts decisions, e.g. ban as a consequence of having been sentenced, often at the same time of deportation. I have no problem in believing they can enforce it at any time with little chances for one to even know or appeal. No surprise they will try to hook it on the date of today, a typical approach of simplifying things when convenient for them, but complicating when it is not.
However, from the reliable information, fully legalizing banning needs approval at a level above the one that is currently available to Immigration Bureau itself - some say Cabinet. Given the current situation there is not hard to think there are some issues in getting things done, beside as with everything in Thailand there may be some power fight behind the scenes of which we don't and will never know.
I can tell you the officer made me feel very scared. I have dealt with this same lady for all my previous non-B extensions and she was always funny and smiling (even when we missed some document), but today's face when found out about the gap between the WP was not nice at all. She then send us to another officer for further review, and this one was even less nice. To me it looked like they got some direct orders on being way more strict (they were even questioning the office photographs and trying to find issues everywhere [like my current cheapskate company declares a lower base salary and covers the rest with incentives, I guess for tax saving or something, but they declared my real salary and the officers were questioning which one was the real one. This has been the same practice for the previous 3 years and this is the first time it has ever been questioned]).
Given the current 'government' I wouldn't be surprised to know that they can do whatever they please. Well it can't be hard for them to get ministerial approval or whatever they need, I guess.
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The new overstay rules are not in effect yet and pending ministerial approval.
Thanks Mario, but I was told by the officer that they started enforcing them today. Is there any truth on that?
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Then new overstay rules have not been approved yet.
Them starting today is a rumor or a twisting of facts the only thing that started today was a new police order for extensions of stay.
@Martouf, I would be very careful if I was your friend. I was today at Chaeng Wattana to extend my non-B based on my WP and they found out I/company let the previous WP expire so I am technically in overstay. The officer found it was very funny that these new rules started being enforced today. I was handled a document to acknowledge that 90 days overstay = 1 year blacklisted if you surrender yourself (I guess immigration, border or airport), and I was explained that it would be enforced from today. BTW this was the head of business visa extensions section at Bangkok immigration, so I would assume she knows what she was talking about.
I am not at 90 days yet but I can tell you she made me feel very scared, and just because I/company forgot to renew the WP and now there is a gap of 2 weeks between the old and new WP :-(
EDIT: ubonjoe, I just re read your post and you mention new police order for extensions of stay , what does exactly that mean? I just don't get it :S
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Hi K Mik, thanks for replying :-)
You are the guys sailing in the armed forces academy, aren't you? I saw your Facebook page but you sail quite far from me (I live near Phra Ram 9 MRT) and I don't have a car nor a driving license :-P I ended up buying one of those cheap chinese boats at HobbyKing (https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__10386__RC_Sailboat_Legend.html), they aren't that great but I think they are a good value at 99 USD. By the way, what are the common frequencies used for boats in Thailand? I brought my 35 Mhz Futaba radio for airplanes from Europe, should that be ok? AFAIK there are no RC frequencies regulations yet in Thailand, right? I read that most surface vehicles use 40 Mhz and 72 Mhz so I guess I will be fine.
MXComponents boats look awesome, are they made by the Italian guy in the group? Do they actually ship from Thailand? Anyway my budget is limited, and these prices are prohibitive for me X-D I plan to actually scratch build my own boats but before I start putting the insane amount of time I better have a try with this chinese boat to see if I actually enjoy sailing ;-)
Hopefully I will be maiden sailing this boat next weekend. AleG wondered some post ago if they allow RC Sailboats on Queen Sirikit park, I will discover this soon as I plan to try on Benjakiti and Lumpini parks :-D I hope the security guards won't mind a RC Sailboat in the ponds, otherwise I may try at Saen Saeb after the boat service stops 555 :-D