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  1. Yup. That certainly relieves you of any responsibility to have to think about things.
  2. Woa....slow down buddy. I said it's convoluted (at least some parts), not that I didn't understand it. I think your post just confirms my suspicions, to which you indignantly protested as not being true. You can fool yourself but I'm not so easily fooled. Especially when the evidence is overwhelming. Anyway, it was a sad reply.
  3. You come into the condition you call life, and pass out of it. In between you encounter a lifetime. Suspended - or so it certainly seems - between birth and death, you wonder at the nature of your own being. You search your experience and study official histories of the past, hoping to find there clues as to the nature of your own reality. Your life seems synonymous with your consciousness. Therefore it appears that your knowledge of yourself grows gradually, as your self-consciousness develops from your birth. It appears, furthermore, that your consciousness will meet a death beyond which your self-consciousness will not survive. You may think longingly and with an almost hopeful nostalgia of the religion of your childhood, and remember a system of belief that ensured you of immortality. Yet most of you, my readers, yearn for some private and intimate assurances, and seek for some inner certainty that your own individuality is not curtly dismissed at death. Each person knows intuitively that his or her own experiences somehow matter, and that there is a meaning, however obscured, that connects the individual with a greater creative pattern. Each person senses now and then a private purpose, and yet many are filled with frustration because that inner goal is not consciously known or clearly apprehended. When you were a child you knew you were growing toward an adulthood. You were sustained by the belief in projected abilities - that is, you took it for granted that you were in the process of learning and growing. No matter what happened to you, you lived in a kind of rarefied psychic air, in which your being was charged and glowing. You knew you were in a state of becoming. The world, in those terms, is also in a state of becoming. In private life and on the world stage, action is occurring all the time. It is easy to look at yourselves or at the world, coma, to see yourself and become so hypnotized by your present state that all change or growth seems impossible, or to see the world in the same manner. You do not remember your birth, as a rule. Certainly it seems that you do not remember the birth of the world. You had a history, however, before your birth - even as it seems to you that the world had a history before you were born. The sciences still keep secrets from each other. The physical sciences pretend that the centuries exist one after the other, while the physicists realize that time is not only relative to the perceiver, but that all events are simultaneous. The archaeologists merrily continue to date the remains of "past" civilizations, never asking themselves what the past means - or saying: "This is the past relative to my point of perception." Astronomers speak of outer space and of galaxies that would dwarf your own. In the world that you recognize there are also wars and rumors of wars, prophets of destruction. Yet in spite of all, the private man or the private woman, unknown, anonymous to the world at large, stubbornly feels within a rousing, determined affirmation that says: "I am important. I have a purpose, even though I do not understand what it is. My life that seems so insignificant and inefficient, is nevertheless of prime importance in some way that I do not recognize." Period. Though caught up in a life of seeming frustration, obsessed with family problems, uneasy in sickess, defeated it seems for all practical purposes, some portion of each individual rouses against all disasters, all discouragements, and now and then at least glimpses a sense of enduring validity that cannot be denied. It is to that knowing portion of each individual that I address myself. Period. I am not, on the one hand, an easy author to deal with, because I speak from a different level of consciousness than the one with which you are familiar. On the other hand, my voice is as natural as oak leaves blowing in the wind, for I speak from a level of awareness that is as native to your psyche as now the seasons seem to be to your soul. I am writing this book through a personality known as Jane Roberts. That is the name given to her birth. She shares with you the triumphs and travails of physical existence. Like you, she is presented with a life that seems to begin at her birth, and that is suspended from that point of emergence until the moment of death's departure. She has asked the same questions that you ask in your quiet moments. Her questions were asked with such a vehemence, however, that she broke through the barriers that most of you erect, and so began a journey that is undertaken for herself and for you also - for each of your experiences, however minute or seemingly insignificant, becomes part of the knowledge of your species. Where did you come from and where are you going. What are you? What is the nature of the psyche? I can only write a portion of this book. You must complete it. For "The Psyche" is meaningless except as it relates to the individual psyche. I speak to you from levels of yourself that you have forgotten, and yet not forgotten. I speak to you through the printed page, and yet my words will re-arouse within you the voices that spoke to you in your childhood, and before your birth. This will not be a dry treatise, studiously informing you about some hypothetical structure called the psyche, but will instead evoke from the depths of your being experiences that you have forgotten, and bring together from the vast reaches of time and space the miraculous identity that is yourself. Now: The earth has a structure. In those terms, so does the psyche. You live in one particular area on the face of your planet, and you can only see so much of it at any given time - yet you take it for granted that the ocean exists even when you cannot feel its spray, or see the tides. And even if you live in a desert, you take it on faith that there are indeed great cultivated fields and torrents of rain. It is true that some of your faith is based on knowledge. Others have traveled where you have not, and television provides you with images. Despite this, however, your senses present you with only a picture of your immediate environment, unless they are cultivated in certain particular manners that are relatively unusual. You take it for granted that the earth has a history. In those terms, your own psyche has a history also. You have taught yourselves to look outward into physical reality, but the inward validity of your being cannot be found there - only its effects. You can turn on television and see a drama, but the inward mobility and experience of your psyche is mysteriously enfolded within all of those exterior gestures that allow you to turn on the television switch to begin with, and to make sense of the images presented. So the motion of your own psyche usually escapes you. Where is the television drama before it appears on your channel - and where does it go afterwards? How can it exist one moment and be finished the next, and yet be replayed when the conditions are correct? If you understood the mechanics, you would know that the program obviously does not go anywhere. It simply is, while the proper conditions activate it for your attention. In the same way, you are alive whether or not you are playing on an earth "program." You are, whether you are in time or out of it. Hopefully in this book we will put you in touch with your own being as it exists outside of the context in which you are used to viewing it. As you dwell in one particular city or town or village, you presently "live" in one small area of the psyche's inner planet. You identify that area as your home, as your "I." Mankind has learned to explore the physical environment, but has barely begun the greater inner journeys that will be embarked upon as the inner lands of the psyche are joyously and bravely explored. In those terms, there is a land of the psyche. However, this virgin territory is the heritage of each individual, and no domain is quite like any other. Yet there is indeed an inner commerce that occurs, and as the exterior continents rise from the inner structure of the earth, so the lands of the psyche emerge from an even greater invisible source. That is the end of dictation for the evening. Now: Dictation (on The Nature of the Psyche: Its Human Expression): As the earth is composed of many environments, so is the psyche. As there are different continents, islands, mountains, seas, and peninsulas, so the psyche takes various shapes. If you live in one country, you often consider natives in other areas of the world as foreigners, while of course they see you in the same light. In those terms, the psyche contains many other levels of reality. From your point of view these might appear alien, and yet they are as much a part of your psyche as your motherland is a portion of the earth. Different countries follow different kinds of constitutions, and even within any geographical area there may be various local laws followed by the populace. For example, if you are driving a car you may discover to your chagrin that the local speed limit in one small town is miles slower than in another, In the same manner, different portions of the psyche exist with their own local "laws," their different kinds of "government." They each possess their own characteristic geography. If you are traveling around the world, you have to make frequent time adjustments. When you travel through the psyche, you will also discover that your own time is automatically squeezed out of shape. If for a moment you try to imagine that you were able to carry your own time with you on such a journey, all packaged neatly in a wristwatch, then you would be quite amazed at what would happen. As you approached the boundaries of certain psychic lands, the wristwatch would run backwards. As you entered other kingdoms of the psyche your watch would go faster or slower. Now, if time suddenly ran backward you would notice it. If it ran faster or slower enough, you would also notice. the differences. If time ran backward very slowly, and according to the conditions, you might not be aware of the difference, because it would take so much "time" to get from the present moment to the one "before" it that you might be struck, instead, simply with the feeling that something was familiar, as if it had happened before. In other lands of the psyche, however, even stranger events might occur. The watch itself might change shape, or turn heavy as a rock, or as light as a gas, so that you could not read the time at all. Or the hands might never move. Different portions of the psyche are familiar with all of these mentioned occurrences-because the psyche straddles any of the local laws that you recognize as "official," and has within itself the capacity to deal with an infinite number of reality-hyphen-experiences. Now: Obviously your physical body has capacities that few of you use to full advantage. But beyond this, the species itself possesses the possibilities for adaptations that allow it to exist and persist in the physical environment under drastically varying circumstances. Hidden within the corporal biological structure there are latent specializations that would allow the species to continue, and that take into consideration any of the planetary changes that might occur for whatever reasons. The psyche, however, while being earth-tuned in your experience, also has many other systems of reality "to contend with." Each psyche, then, contains within it the potentials, abilities, and powers that are possible, or capable of actualization under any conditions. The psyche, your psyche, can record and experience time backward, forward, dash - or sideways through systems of alternate presents - or it can maintain its own integrity in a no-time environment. The psyche is the creator of time complexes. Theoretically, the most fleeting moment of your day can be prolonged endlessly. This would not be a static elongation, however, but a vivid delving into that moment, from which all time as you think of it, past and future and all its probabilities, might emerge. If you are reading this book, you have already become weary with official concepts. You have already begun to sense those greater dimensions of your being. You are ready to step aside from all conventionalized doctrines, and to some extent or another you are impatient to examine and experience the natural flowing nature that is your birthright. That birthright has long been clothed in symbols and mythologies. Consciousness forms symbols. It is not the other way around. Symbols are great exuberant playthings. You can build with them as you can with children's blocks. You can learn from them, as once you piled alphabet blocks together in a stack at school. Symbols are as natural to your minds as trees are to the earth. There is a difference, however, between a story told to children about forests, and a real child in a real woods. Both the story and the woods are "real." But in your terms the child entering the real woods becomes involved in its life cycle, treads upon leaves that fell yesterday, rests beneath trees far older than his or her memory, and looks up at night to see a moon that will soon disappear. Looking at an illustration of the woods may give a child some excellent imaginative experiences, but they will be of a different kind, and the child knows the difference. If you mistake the symbols for the reality, however, you will program your experience, and you will insist that each forest look like the pictures in your book. In other words, you will expect your own experiences with various portions of your psyche to be more or less the same. You will take your local laws with you, and you will try to tell psychic time with a wristwatch. We will have to use some of your terms, however, particularly in the beginning. Other terms with which you are familiar, we will squeeze out of all recognition. The reality of your own being cannot be defined by anyone but you, and then your own definition must be understood as a reference point at best. The psychologist, the priest, the physicist, the philosopher or the guru, can explain your own psyche to you only insofar as those specialists can forget that they are specialists, and deal directly with the private psyche from which all specializations come. When I use the term "psyche," many of you will immediately wonder about my definition. Any word, simply by being thought, written or spoken, immediately implies a specification. In your daily reality it is very handy to distinguish one thing from another by giving each item a name. When you are dealing with subjective experience, however, definitions can often serve to limit rather than express a given experience. Obviously the psyche is not a thing. It does not have a beginning or ending. It cannot be seen or touched in normal terms. It is useless, therefore, to attempt any description of it through usual vocabulary, for your language primarily allows you to identify physical rather than nonphysical experience. I am not saying that words cannot be used to describe the psyche, but they cannot define it. It is futile to question: "What is the difference between my psyche and my soul, my entity and my greater being?" for all of these are terms used in an effort to express the greater portions of your own experience that you sense within yourself. Your use of language may make you impatient for definitions, however. Hopefully this book will allow you some intimate awareness, some definite experience, that will acquaint you with the nature of your own psyche, and then you will see that its reality escapes all definitions, defies all categorizing, and shoves aside with exuberant creativity all attempts to wrap it up in a neat package. When you begin a physical journey, you feel yourself distinct from the land through which you travel. No matter how far you journey - on a motorcycle, in a car or plane, or on foot - by bicycle or camel, or truck or vessel, still you are the wanderer, and the land or ocean or desert is the environment through which you roam. When you begin your travels into your own psyche, however, everything changes. You are still the wanderer, the journeyman or journeywoman, but you are also the vehicle and the environment. You form the roads, your method of travel, the hills or mountains or oceans, as well as the hills, farms, and villages of the self, or of the psyche, as you go along. When in colonial times men and women traveled westward across the continent of North America, many of them took it on faith that the land did indeed continue beyond - for example - towering mountains. When you travel as pioneers through your own reality, you create each blade of grass, each inch of land, each sunset and sunrise, each oasis, friendly cabin or enemy encounter as you go along. Now if you are looking for simple definitions to explain the psyche, I will be of no help. If you want to experience the splendid creativity of your own being, however, then I will use methods that will arouse your greatest adventuresomeness, your boldest faith in yourself, and I will paint pictures of your psyche that will lead you to experience even its broadest reaches, if you so desire. The psyche, then, is not a known land. It is not simply an alien land, to which or through which you can travel. It is not a completed or nearly complete subjective universe already there for you to explore. It is, instead, an ever-forming state of being, in which your present sense of existence resides. You create it and it creates you. It creates in physical terms that you recognize. On the other hand, you create physical time for your psyche, for without you there would be no experience of the seasons, their coming and their passing. There would be no experience of what Ruburt (Seth's "entity" name for Jane) calls "the dear privacy of the moment," so if one portion of your being wants to rise above the solitary march of the moments, other parts of your psyche rush, delighted, into that particular time focus that is your own. As you now desire to understand the timeless, infinite dimensions of your own greater existence, so "even now" multitudinous elements of that non-earthly identity just as eagerly explore the dimensions of earth-being and creaturehood. Earlier I mentioned some odd effects that might occur if you tried to take your watch or other timepiece into other levels of reality. Now, when you try to interpret your selfhood in other kinds of existence, the same surprises or distortions or alterations can seem to occur. When you attempt to understand your psyche, and define it in terms of time, then it seems that the idea of reincarnation makes sense. You think: "Of course. My psyche lives many lives physically, one after the other. If my present experience is dictated by that in my childhood, then surely my current life is a result of earlier ones. And so you try to define the psyche in terms of time, and in so doing you limit your understanding and even your experience of it. Let us try another analogy: You are an artist in the throes of inspiration. There is before you a canvas, and you are working in all areas of it at once. In your terms each part of the canvas could be a time period - say, a given century. You are trying to keep some kind of overall balance and purpose in mind, so when you make one brushstroke in any particular portion of this canvas, all the relationships within the entire area can change. No brushstroke is ever really wiped out, however, in this mysterious canvas of our analogy, but remains, further altering all the relationships at its particular level. These magical brushstrokes, however, are not simple representations on a flat surface, but alive, carrying within themselves all of the artist's intent, but focused through the characteristics of each individual stroke. If the artist paints a doorway, all of the sensed perspectives within it open, and add further dimensions of reality. Since this is our analogy, we can stretch it as far as we like-far further than any artist could stretch his canvas. Therefore, there is no need to limit ourselves. The canvas itself can change size and shape as the artist works. The people in the artist's painting are not simple representations either - to stare back at him with forever-fixed glassy eyes, or ostentatious smiles, dressed in their best Sunday clothes. Instead, they can confront the artist and talk back. They can turn sideways in the painting and look at their companions, observe their environment, and even look out of the dimensions of the painting itself and question the artist. Now the psyche in our analogy is both the painting and the artist, for the artist finds that all of the elements within the painting are portions of himself. More, as he looks about, our artist discovers that he is literally surrounded by other paintings that he is also producing. As he looks closer, he discovers that there is a still-greater masterpiece in which he appears as an artist creating the very same paintings that he begins to recognize. Our artist then realizes that all of the people he painted are also painting their own pictures, and moving about in their own realities in a way that even he cannot perceive. In a flash of insight it occurs to him that he also has been painted - that there is another artist behind him from whom his own creativity springs, and he also begins to look out of the frame. Now: If you are confused, that is fine-for it means that already we have broken through conventional ideas. Anything that I say following this analogy will seem comparatively simple, for by now it must appear at least that you have little hope of discovering your own greater dimensions. Again, rather than trying to define the psyche, I will try to incite your imagination so that you can leap beyond what you have been told you are, to some kind of direct experience. To some extent this book itself provides its own demonstration. I call Jane Roberts "Ruburt" (and, hence, "he" and "him") simply because the name designates another portion of her reality, while she identifies herself as Jane. She writes her own books and carries on as each of you do in life's ordinary context. She has her own unique likes and dislikes, characteristics and abilities; her own time and space slot as each of you do. She is one living portrait of the psyche, independent in her own context, and in the environment as given. Now I come from another portion of reality's picture, from another dimension of the psyche in which your existence can be observed, as you might look upon a normal painting. In those terms, I am outside of your "frame" of reference. My perspective cannot be contained in your own painting of reality. I write my books, but because my primary focus is in a reality that "is larger than your own," I cannot appear as myself fully within your reference. So Ruburt's subective perspective opens up because of his desire and interest, and discloses my own. He opens up a door in himself that leads to other levels of his being, but a being that cannot be completely expressed in your world. That existence is mine, expressed in my experience at another level of reality, so I must write my books through Ruburt. Doors in the psyche are different from simple openings that lead from one room to another, so my books only show a glimpse of my own existence. You all have such psychological doors however, that lead into dimensionally greater areas of the psyche, so to some extent or another I speak for those other aspects of yourselves that do not appear in your daily context. Beyond what I recognize as my own existence, there are others. To some extent I share in their experience - to a far greater extent, for example, than Ruburt shares in mine. On some relatively few occasions, for example, Ruburt has been able to contact what he calls "Seth Two." That level of reality, however, is even further divorced from your own. It represents an even greater extension of the psyche, in your terms. There is a much closer relationship, in that I recognize my own identity as a distinct portion of Seth Two's existence, where Ruburt feels little correspondence. In a manner of speaking, Seth Two's reality includes my own, yet I am aware of my contribution to "his" experience. In the same way, each of my readers has a connection with the same level of psychic reality. In greater terms, all of this is happening at once. Ruburt is contributing and forming a certain portion of my experience, even as I am contributing to his. Your identities are not something already completed. Your most minute action, thought, and dream adds to the reality of your psyche, no matter how grand or austere the psyche may appear to you when you think of it as a hypothetical term. Ruburt has specialized in a study of consciousness and the psyche. Most of my readers are very interested, yet they have other pressing concerns that prevent them from embarking upon such an extended study. You all have physical reality to deal with. This applies equally to Ruburt and Joseph (Seth's entity name for me.) Thus far, my books have included Joseph's extended notes. They have set the scene, so to speak. My books have gone beyond those boundaries, however. In your terms, only so much can be done in time. Joseph is even now involved in typing my previous manuscript (The "Unknown" Reality.) It was written in such a way that it tied the personal experience of Ruburt and Joseph in with a greater theoretical framework, so that one could not be separated from the other. In this new book, therefore, I will sometimes provide my own "scene setting." The psyche's production, in other words, has escaped practical, physical bounds, so that from my level of reality I can no longer expect Joseph to do more than record the sessions. I will ask you, my readers, to bear with me then. In my own way, I will try to provide suitable references so that you know what is going on physically in your time, as this book is written. Largely, the writing of this book occurs in a "no-time, or out-of-time context." Physically, however, Ruburt and Joseph take many hours in its production. They have moved to a new house. Ruburt, as usual, is smoking as I speak. His foot rests upon a coffee table, as he moves back and forth in his rocking chair. It is nearing midnight as I speak (at 11:42). Earlier, a great thunderstorm raged, its reverberations seeming to crack the sky. Now it is quiet, with only the drone of Ruburt's new refrigerator sounding like the deep purr of some mechanical animal. As you read this book, you are also immersed in such intimate physical experiences. Do not consider them as separated from the greater reality of your being, but as a part of it. You do not exist outside of your psyche's being, but within it. Some of you may have just put children to bed as you read these lines. Some of you may be sitting at a table. Some of you may have just gone to the bathroom. These mundane activities may seem quite divorced from what I am telling you, yet in each simple gesture, and in the most necessary of physical acts, there is the great magical unknowing elegance in which you reside-and in the most ordinary of your motions, there are clues and hints as to the nature of the psyche and its human expression.
  4. Bah humbug. The Physical Universe As Idea Construction. Understand it. Or not.
  5. Just a correction. Rereading of the Seth books always brings greater understanding as material that was previously not well understood becomes much more understood as my understanding progresses along with my experience of the material. But it's never been a case where I've interpreted the material wrongly and had to correct myself. It's never been a case where my understanding is now different. Only that some information 'clicked' where before it hadn't. Rereading just brings new epiphanies.
  6. The importance and value of physical life to the physical self and it's source self. The outsideness of the physical world is connected, then, with a multidimensional "insideness." That exterior world is thrust outward, however, and projected into reality in line with your conscious desires, beliefs, and intent. It is important that you remember this position of the conscious· mind as you think of it. Each physical experience is unique, and while the energy for it and the creation of it come from within, the pristine, private, and yet shared quality of that experience could not exist in the same way (more emphatically) were it not so exteriorized. The exteriorization has great purpose and meaning, then, and brings forth a different kind of expression. Though I may emphasize the importance of inner reality in this book, therefore, I am in no way denying the great validity and purpose of earthly experience. Any exercises in this book should help you enrich that experience, and understand its framework and nature. None of the exercises should be used to try to "escape" the connotations of your own earthly reality.
  7. The multidimensional aspects of the electron cannot be perceived within your three-dimensional system, using instruments that are already predisposed or prefocused to measure only certain kinds of effects. While this may sound quite sacrilegious scientifically, it is possible to understand the electron's nature and greater reality by using certain focuses of consciousness: by probing the electron, for example, with a "laser" [beam] of consciousness finely focused and attuned - and more will be said about this later in the book. So far in any of your investigations, you have been probing exterior conditions, searching for their interior nature. To make this clear: When you dissect an animal, for instance, you are still dealing only with the "inside" of exterior reality, or with another level of outsideness. (Pause.) In a manner of speaking, when you probe the heavens with your instruments you are doing the same thing. There is a difference between this and the "withinness" out of which all matter springs. It is there that the blueprints for reality are found. There are various ways of studying reality. Let us take a very simple example. Suppose a scientist found a first orange, and used every instrument available to examine it, but refused to feel it, taste it, smell it, or otherwise to become personally involved with it for fear of losing scientific objectivity. In sense terms he would learn little about an orange, though he might be able to isolate its elements, predict where others might be found, theorize about its environment - but the greater ''withinness" of the orange is not found any place inside of its skin either. The seeds ate the physical carriers of future oranges, but the blueprints for that reality are what formed the seeds. In such dilemmas you are always brought back to the question of which came first, and begin another merry chase. Because yo:u think in terms of consecutive time, it seems that there must have been a first egg, or seed. The blueprints for reality exist, however, in dimensions without such a time sequence. Your closest point to the withinness of which I speak is your own· consciousness, though you use it as a tool to examine the exterior universe. But it is basically free of that reality, not confined to the life-and-death saga, and at other levels deals with the blueprints for its own physical existence. In the entire gestalt from cellular to "self' consciousness, there is a vast field of knowledge - much of it now "unconsciously" available - used to maintain the body's integrity in space and time. With the conscious mind as director, there is no reason why much of this knowledge cannot become normally and naturally available. There is, therefore, a quite valid, vital, real and vastly creative inner reality, and an inward sequence of events from which your present universe and life emerges. Any true scientist will ultimately have to learn to enter that realm of reality. So-called objective approaches will only work at all when you are dealing with so-called objective effects - and your physicists are learning that even in that framework many "facts" are facts only within certain frequencies, or under certain conditions. You are left with "workable facts" that help you manipulate in your own backyard, but such facts become prejudice when you try to venture beyond your own cosmic neighborhood and find that your preconceived, native ideas do not apply outside of their context. Because of your attitudes, ideas do not seem as real to you as objects, or as practical. Thoughts are not given the same validity as rocks or trees or beer cans (two of which sat on the coffee table between us at the moment) or automobiles. In your terms an automobile gets you somewhere. You do not understand the great mobility of thought, nor grasp its practical nature. You make your world, and in an important manner your thoughts are indeed the immediate personal blueprints for it. When you manipulate objects you feel efficient. The manipulation of thoughts is far more practical. Here is a brief example. Your medical technology may help you "conquer" one disease after another - some in fact caused by that same technology - and you will feel very efficient as you do heart transplants, as you fight one virus after another. But all of this will do nothing except to allow people to die, perhaps, of other diseases still "unconquered." People will die when they are ready to, following inner dictates and dynamics. A person ready to die will, despite any medication. (Emphatically:) A person who wants to live will seize upon the tiniest hope, and respond. The dynamics of health have nothing to do with inoculations. They reside in the consciousness of each being. In your terms they are regulated by emotions, desires, and thoughts. A true doctor cannot be scientifically objective. He cannot divorce himself from the reality of his patient. Instead, usually, the doctor's words and very methods literally separate the patient from himself or herself. The malady is seen almost as a thing apart from the patient's person - but thrust upon it - over which the patient has little control. The condition is analyzed, the blood is sampled. It becomes "a blood sample" to the doctor. The patient may silently shout out, ''That is not just a blood sample - it is my blood you are taking." But he [or she] is discouraged from identifying with the blood of his physical being, so that even his own blood seems alien. The blueprints for reality: In greater terms they reside within you. In private terms they are part of your being. To some extent I am suggesting in this book a different approach. So far the blueprints for reality have been largely unknown. Your methods make them invisible, so here I am suggesting ways in which the unknown reality can become a known one. I have mentioned the dream-art scientist and the [true] mental physicist (in sessions 700-1). I would like to add here the "complete physician."
  8. I've left. Kinda. Just on temporary assignment.
  9. Food for thought, is all. Each will do with it as they wish.
  10. Each individual is innately driven by a good intent, however distorted that intent may become, or however twisted the means that may be taken to achieve it. As the body wants to grow from childhood on, so all of the personality's abilities want to grow and develop. Each person has his [or her] own ideals, and impulses direct those ideals naturally into their own specific avenues of development — avenues meant to fulfill both the individual and his society. Impulses provide specifications, methods, meanings, definitions. They point toward definite avenues of expression, avenues that will provide the individual with a sense of actualization, natural power, and that will automatically provide feedback, so that the person knows he is impressing his environment for the better. (Long pause.) Those natural impulses, followed, will automatically lead to political and social organizations that become both tools for individual development and implements for the fulfillment of the society. Impulses then would follow easily, in a smooth motion, from private action to social import. When you are taught to block your impulses, and to distrust them, then your organizations become clogged. You are left with vague idealized feelings of wanting to change the world for the better, for example — but you are denied the personal power of your own impulses that would otherwise help direct that idealism by developing your personal abilities. You are left with an undefined, persisting, even tormenting desire to do good, to change events, but without having any means at your disposal to do so. This leads to lingering frustration, and if your ideals are strong the situation can cause you to feel quite desperate. (Pause in a forceful delivery.) You may begin to exaggerate the gull between this generalized ideal and the specific evidences of man's "greed and corruption" that you see so obviously about you. You may begin to concentrate upon your own lacks, and in your growing sense of dissatisfaction it may seem to you that most men are driven by a complete lack of good intent. You may become outraged, scandalized — or worse, filled with self righteousness, so that you being to attack all those with whom you do not agree, because you do not know how else to respond to your own ideals, or to your own good intent (with much emphasis). The job of trying to make the world better seems impossible, for it appears that you have no power, and any small private beneficial actions that you can (underlined) take seem so puny in contrast to this generalized ideal that you dismiss them sardonically, and so you do not try to use your power constructively. You do not begin with your own life, with your own job, or with your own associates. (Louder:) What difference can it make to the world if you are a better salesperson, or plumber, or office worker, or car salesman, for Christ's sake? What can one person do? Yet that is precisely where first of all you must begin to exert yourselves. There, on your jobs and in your associations, are the places where you intersect with the world. Your impulses directly affect the world in those relationships (intently). (Pause.) Many of you are convinced that you are not important — and while [each of] you feels that way it will seem that your actions have no effect upon the world. You will purposefully keep your ideals generalized, thus saving yourself from the necessity of acting upon them in the one way open to you: by trusting yourself and your impulses, and impressing those that you meet in daily life with the full validity that is your own.
  11. To some extent the greater expression of consciousness can be experienced under usual waking conditions, but only when a personality is flexible enough and secure enough to alter the focus of consciousness. This way, other unperceived data become available. The unknown reality is not beyond your experience, therefore. Any of your scientific or religious disciplines could benefit from a study of the dreaming consciousness, for there the basic nature of reality exists as clearly as you can perceive it.
  12. Many of you are fascinated by theories or concepts that hint at the multidimensionality of your beings, and yet you are scandalized by any evidence that supports it.
  13. It is one thing to be theoretically convinced that other worlds exist, and to take a certain comfort and joy from the idea It is quite another thing to find yourself in such an environment, and to feel the worlds coincide. Reality is above all practical, so when you expand your concepts concerning the nature of reality, you are apt then to find yourselves scandalized, appalled, or simply disoriented. So in this work I am presenting you not only with probabilities as conjecture, but, often, showing you how such probabilities affect your daily lives, and giving examples of the ways in which Ruburt's and Joseph's lives have been so touched. For a while, many of you will play with the concepts while avoiding all direct encounters with any other experience, save that already acceptable. Yet the immensities of your own abilities speak in your dreams, in your private moments, as even inaudibly in the knowledge of your own molecules.
  14. You cannot explore the nature of reality, hoping to discover its unknown aspects, if you insist that those aspects correspond with the known ones.
  15. The Nature of Personal Reality: Specific, Practical Techniques for Solving Everyday Problems and Enriching the Life You Know. In this perennial bestseller, Seth challenges our assumptions about the nature of reality and stresses the individual's capacity for conscious action. Included in this book are excellent exercises for applying these theories to any life situation.
  16. You are used to a particular kind of orientation, accustomed to using your consciousness in one particular manner. In order to study the "unknown" reality, however, you must try to see what else you! consciousness can do. This really means that you must learn to regain the true feeling of yourself. There are two main ways of trying to find out about the nature of reality - an exterior method and an interior one. The methods can be used together, of course, and from your vantage point must be for the greatest efficiency. You are well acquainted with the exterior means, that involve studying the objective universe and collecting facts upon which certain deductions are made. In this book, therefore, we will be stressing interior ways of attaining, not necessarily facts, but knowledge and wisdom. Now, facts may or may not give you wisdom. They can, if they are slavishly followed, even lead you away from true knowledge. Wisdom shows you the insides of facts, so to speak, and the realities from which facts emerge. Much of the remainder of "Unknown" Reality, then, will deal with an inside look at the nature of reality, and with some exercises that will allow you to see yourself and your world from another perspective.
  17. Slight correction for the sake of accuracy. Thoughts are thinking about ideas. So technically beliefs are made of ideas. Beliefs create experience. Full stop. Placebos work for some people. They work for those people whose beliefs about them are in line with the effects they expect. It's not a matter of strengthening one's mind. It's a matter of choosing one's beliefs. Beliefs which are beneficial rather than detrimental. There are only two things one can think about - what is wanted and what is unwanted. What is wanted is beneficial and what is not wanted is detrimental. This mental power is nothing new. You and everyone else have been using it all of your lives. If one wishes to 'harness' this mental power, e.g. consciously direct it, then the way to do that would be to choose beneficial ideas over detrimental ones. As to detrimental ideas, "Argue for your limitations and they're yours." If you're interested in arguing for your unlimitations then this video shows how you go about doing it.
  18. You're headed in the right direction. If you keep going in that direction you'll eventually discover that every facet of life is about beliefs.
  19. Well, since you spent the time and the effort to produce this masterpiece of pop psychology I feel it only polite to give you a response so that you might feel that your effort was for naught. I laughed my ar$e off reading that, Sunmaster. The assumptions you make about me which are the basis for your interpretations are truly of the grandest and most fanciful pure fiction. I applaud you for ability to not get a single thing correct. You've provided us all a most wonderful example which so beautifully illustrates the power of belief. As long as you believe it to be true then true it is for you. That almost deserves a standing ovation. But since those aren't available then another hand clap will have to suffice. Poor Sunmaster has "seen the light" and believes that no one else has if it is not experienced in the identical fashion of his once-in=a=lifetime Kundalini Awakening. Which he will strive for the rest of his life to hopefully repeat again. Though he knows full well that it is not up to him - for he must have the blessing of some deity or other imagined force (can't remember what you called it but you mentioned it twice that I know of). I can only give praise to God, or Buddha, or Brahman, or All That Is, or The One, or maybe all of them for sparing me a life imprisoned in the head of Sunmaster. I would be fated to a miserable existence of cutting the overgrown and strangling weeds of so many useless beliefs and never denting them. It was certainly a magnificently creative piece of pop psychology for which you deserve another round of applause. Not rooted in science but firmly rooted in fantasy. Though it is true that the two are often indistinguishable. But it was highly artistic. I first appeared an ally for my criticisms and insights were directed at our mutual "foes." I was applauded But once I dared turn those criticisms and insights in the direction of Sunmaster then I was suddenly transformed from a guy with great perceptions and wisdom to a verbose dolt who just didn't "get it." The world can indeed turn on a dime. Well, this thread is all yours now, Sunmaster. Good luck trying to "help" those who aren't looking for help, nor want help, nor seek help, and they really don't even need help. They're all fine just the way they are. You cannot alleviate any of their "suffering." But go ye forth and do the work of Brahman.
  20. Boy, that was a fast response, Sunmaster. Not surprising as evidently you understood none of it. But of course you can't understand any of it. Your beliefs won't allow it. Anyway, let no man say that you or anyone else broke me. For I lay claim to that. I, too, woke this morning with fresh inspiration. It had to do with my age old question of why I post on this or any other forum. I received the answer this morning and it was clear as a bell. I was going to post it all but thanks to your last post, Sunmaster, it would be in vain. Thanks for saving me the time and trouble. You can, if you'd like, reciprocate by thanking me for now never having to spend the time and effort to compose you Magnum Opus to me. For it will only be more of the same. Religious nonsense. So I leave you to be the resident Swami, here, Sunmaster. Swami Sunmaster. That has a nice ring to it. Maybe you can make your own YouTube videos and monetise them. Not a bad idea, eh? How many Swami white men are out there? You could corner that market. Make yourself famous, too. And by realising fame (and possibly great fortune) people might listen and believe you, too. You're not doing so well here. You're a good man, Sunmaster. A very good man. I wish you well on your journey to become Brahman. Cheers to you all, Tippers P.S. In the far, far outside chance that anyone needs to contact me you can find me here:
  21. And some of us aren't. Moral of the story? To each their own. As it should be.
  22. You're in a cult and the leader of it, too, Frogs. Your own, of which you are the only member and so forced to be it's leader, too. Please do share your beliefs about who you are, the world, the universe, reality, God, and whatever else. You don't. That keeps you safe. For no one could then criticise you for what you believe. And since no one knows what your beliefs are then you can always give the appearance of having 'normal' beliefs which "everyone" else subscribes to and agrees upon. That also gives you free reign to criticise, poke fun at, and ridicule everyone else's beliefs and ideas. Easy to do when you have none of your own. Chicken, is what I call it. You have no idea how transparent you are, Frogs. Every village has a . . .
  23. After all of my harsh criticisms and you come back rather nonplussed. Kudos to you, Sunmaster. You've shown that you are truly secure within yourself. It's what's implied, Sunmaster. It's what's implied. You can't see that. Yet. It's you're very beliefs which blind you to it. You see, Sunmaster, what you don't get is that it's all spiritual. All of it. Remember this from Swami Sarvapriyananda's video? You have Brahman on the far left, that which you are. Everything on the right side is not the r-e-a-l you. The goal is to get to Brahman. Brahman is the spirit. The rest is not. That's the great distortion in eastern religion. It purports that only Brahman is spiritual and the rest is not. Your goal, Sunmaster, is to connect with that spiritual part of yourself and become it. You've been hoodwinked into believing that the Sunmaster portion of yourself, including all of it's doings, is NOT spiritual. Any consciousness automatically tries to express itself in all probable directions, and does so. In so doing it will experience All That Is through its own being, though interpreted, of course, through that familiar reality of its own. Because you believe that the Sunmaster portion of you, and all of it's doings, is not spiritual then the above statement makes no sense to you. You can't see how you and all of you're doings are in fact spiritual. They cannot be otherwise as they are 'you'. You are, we all are, in this very moment spirits clothed in flesh, blood and bones. For that portion is indeed a manifestation of our inner self. That portion IS our inner self. As you say, we already are that which we are. You've got that correct, but only partially. You fail to see yet that our physical existence IS a manifestation, a representation in symbolic form, in which inner being inserts ITSELF into a reality which it has created for the purpose of expressing itself in a new way. Through that expression it creates itself in an entirely new fashion and then that expression of itself knows itself in new ways via experience in another reality. The inner self does this eternally via creating an infinite number of realities, not just the physical, for the same purpose. The abilities of the inner self are infinite. Here we are meant to use what abilities we have to their fullest and in so doing we express our inner self. The use of our abilities can find expression in an infinite number of ways. To use your examples, as an economist and as a surgeon. Those endeavours are spiritual in nature. But since you believe that our doings in this world are not then you are blind to that fact. Again, your very belief blinds you from seeing that. Given that every reality has it's limitations, it's boundaries, then so any given individual within any reality is limited as to the amount of abilities he or she is able to express in any given lifetime. Hence probable selves and reincarnational selves, et al. For all of our abilities will be used and if they are not used by 'you' in a given lifetime, or a given reality, then they will be used and find expression by other 'yous'; whether that is a probable 'you' or a reincarnational 'you', or a counterpart 'you', and so on. Rising to challenges is a basis for existence in every aspect of existence. It is the developer of all abilities, and at the risk of being trite, it is the responsibility of even the most minute particle of consciousness to use its own abilities, and all of its abilities, to the utmost. Upon the degree to which this is done rests the power and coherence of everything that is. Here Seth explains the importance of using our abilities. Again, whether the use those abilities are expressed in terms of being an economist or being a surgeon. Again, ". . . it is the responsibility of even the most minute particle of consciousness to use its own abilities, and all of its abilities, to the utmost." I've accused you, Sunmaster, of having an identity crisis. I've told you several times that our concept of identity is extremely limited. And I will chastise you now for never asking me what I meant by that or for never asking me anything about identity. You have no curiosity about it. I understand, though, why you wouldn't and didn't ask me. For why would you need to hear a different explanation of what identity is when you already know what it is? Your identity is Brahman. What of Sunmaster? Does he not have an identity? Or is that identity not real, not valid? Seth constantly refers to multi-personhood. Over and over again he states that we are multidimensional beings. To say that there is more to us than we realise means that we have many more "I-selves." There is no single "I," not in terms of the physical nor in terms of the inner self. I would fully understand if that concept might escape you. Perhaps you may get a slight 'feel' for it but I doubt a single reading would give you any great clarity. To understand that we are multidimensional beings is something that you would have to work at. In the least to give it more than a passing thought, which may only result in you dismissing the concept entirely. Which is quite possible if you are insistent on following the ideas of Vedanta, for multidimensionality does not at all fit within that framework. And would indeed wreak havoc on that framework if it were to be included. The bottom line here, Sunmaster, is that as long as you fail to understand that all of it is spiritual, you and all of your doings, as long as you fail to understand that there is nothing that is not spiritual, you will continue to make senseless divisions as to what is spiritual and what is not. Sooner or later that effort will bring you to the proper understanding for the idea of divisions to the self do not work. I'm no saint, nor do I aspire to become one, but book learning has given me spiritual knowledge. You can deny all you want that it has, until you turn blue in the face if you wish, but I know better. I've also accused you, Sunmaster, of not understanding the Seth material for you have admitted that it is convoluted. You took great exception and spat out with great indignation that just because you said it was convoluted doesn't give me the right to say that you didn't understand it. Well, friend, again the proof is in the pudding. BTW, convoluted has this definition: (esp. of expression in speech or writing) having a complicated structure and therefore difficult to understand. Also, these synonyms: baffling, perplexing, confused, puzzling, tangled. To say something is convoluted and then claim it's understood would not be honest. I've written, too, that it was most puzzling to me why you objected to my posting Seth's actual material and why you wanted me to explain it to you in my own words. For it made no sense. Would I be able to explain Seth's material better than Seth himself? That's nonsensical. It does make sense, though, in light of the fact that you have trouble understanding Seth's material due to it's 'convoluted' nature. But again I say the proof is in the pudding. And the pudding is what you wrote above. The cornerstone of the Seth material is this: You create your reality using ideas. Thoughts being ideas. Beliefs being ideas one accepts as "true." The above clearly shows that you have no idea of what ideas are, where they come from, where they go, what their purpose is, and what effects they produce. They are the very thing which creates your physical experience and yet this seems to go completely over your head. You think you can tame them? My response: Again, this is a cornerstone of the Seth material and how can any of the rest of the material make any sense if that key concept is failed to be understood? It can't. This characteristic of materializing thoughts and emotions into physical realities is an attribute of the soul. Now in your reality, these thoughts are made physical. In other realities, they may be "constructed" in an entirely different fashion. So your soul, that which you are, constructs your physical daily reality for you from the nature of your thoughts and expectations. ... You can readily see, therefore, how important your subjective feelings really are. This knowledge - that your universe is idea construction - can immediately give you clues that enable you to change your environment and circumstances beneficially. If you want to reject that concept then there's naught I can do about it. Keep attempting the impossible and carry on with 'taming' your thoughts for as long as you have the endurance to do so. Vedanta has no idea of what thoughts, ideas and beliefs are because it doesn't at all attempt to explain them other that to say the are 'objects' in the realm of Maya. The fact that you don't understand that it is ideas which create our experience then that also explains why you've never answered the question I've put to you asking where suffering comes from. Unless you understand that you create your personal, private and en masse experience you cannot begin to answer the question. Without the understanding that we create or own reality then any answer to that question will be entirely fabricated from whole cloth. The fact is that each of you create your own physical reality; and en masse, you create both the glories and the terrors that exist within your earthly experience. Until you realize that you are the creators, you will refuse to accept this responsibility. As well, it is not the mind or the ego which prevents the revealing of the 'bigger' you. It is your beliefs. I've said again and again that your concept of what the ego is is largely distorted. Some of your ideas are correct but others woefully miss the mark. It cannot relate to a reality that you will not allow it to perceive. It can poorly help you to survive when you do not allow it to use its abilities to discover those true conditions in which it must manipulate. You put blinders upon it, and then say that it cannot see. Your beliefs are the blinders which you put on your ego. Even so, it is much more resilient and eager to learn than is generally supposed. It is not natively as rigid as it seems. Its curiosity can be of great value. If you have a limited conception of the nature of reality, then your ego will do its best to keep you in the small enclosed area of your accepted reality. If, on the other hand, your intuitions and creative instincts are allowed freedom, then they communicate some knowledge of greater dimensions to this most physically oriented portion of your personality. Again, it is your beliefs which limit the ego and turn it into that 'object' which you have been led to believe inhibits your ability to perceive your greater reality. To develop your ego via changing your beliefs in order to assist the ego in assisting you then you would call that preening the ego, I suppose. But the ego is you. The Sunmaster 'you'. Part of my purpose is to acquaint your egotistical self with knowledge that is already known to a larger portion of your own consciousness, that you have long ignored. Again, when you become aware that there is more to yourself then you will change the role that the ego plays. You must also realize that while I use terms like "soul" or "entity," "inner self," and "present personality [ego]," I do so only for the sake of convenience, for one is a part of the other; there is no point where one begins and another ends. Keeping in mind always that the divisions made are for "the sake of convenience" would prevent you from ever viewing the ego as an 'object' in Maya. You seem to perceive exclusively through your physical senses, and yet you have only to extend your egotistical idea of reality, and you will find even your egotistical self accepting quite readily the existence of nonphysical information. As it does, so its own ideas of its own nature will automatically change and expand, for you will have removed limitations to its growth. Your idea of reality is whatever your beliefs about it are. As you expand and therefore change your beliefs about reality then your ego becomes an ally and no longer the hindrance you have forced it to be due to your limited beliefs about reality. Now often the ego acts as a dam, to hold back other perceptions - not because it was meant to, or because it is in the nature of an ego to behave in such a fashion, or even because it is a main function of an ego, but simply because you have been taught that the purpose of an ego is restrictive rather than expanding. Currently you are completely, utterly convinced that the ego is restrictive; inhibiting. It is what prevents you from realising an awareness of your inner self, and stands in the way of experiencing that inner reality. Only, only if you insist that the ego works against you. The ego does want to understand and interpret physical reality, and to relate to it. It wants to help you survive within physical existence, but by putting blinders upon it, you hamper its perception and native flexibility. Then because it is inflexible you say that this is the natural function and characteristic of the ego. Again, you saddle the ego with poor beliefs and then blame it for it's poor functioning. But you don't understand what beliefs are, what their function is, and certainly not what their effects are. Well, one of those effects is that your beliefs convince you that the ego is the problem when you wish to connect with your inner reality. For a second reading: It cannot relate to a reality that you will not allow it to perceive. It can poorly help you to survive when you do not allow it to use its abilities to discover those true conditions in which it must manipulate. You put blinders upon it, and then say that it cannot see. As long as you insist on your interpretation of what the ego is you won't begin to be able to understand what the ego truly is. You need to set aside your ideas of what the ego is first before you can understand what Seth is explaining. Now you seem to think that I do not understand your viewpoints, Sunmaster. You fail to understand that I understand your viewpoints perfectly in all of their nitty gritty detail. I understand perfectly well, for instance, your concept of the ego. But it is you who do not understand my viewpoint. And that's because you're too goddamned busy coming from yours. You speak well, but you don't listen well. Oh, I can hear your cries of indignation all the way to where I am sitting. And yet again the proof is in the pudding. Both you and @Red Phoenix have expressed to me your beliefs and where they come from. Granted, Vedanta is only a single source for your world view, Sunmaster. And granted as well that Gurdjieff is only a single source for RP's world view. Now I have spent hours upon hours investigating your sources and have schooled myself as to how they view the world and why. I've dedicated the time necessary to have an informed opinion regarding those sources. Yet it's been painfully obvious to me that the two of you have not done the same with the Seth material. For I have provided it to each of you and all I need to do to know that the two of you haven't done your homework is to see if there were any downloads. Yes, eventually there were. But the fact that there were downloads doesn't mean that any of those PDFs were ever opened and read by either of you. The fact that neither of you have ever commented on that material, oftentimes even when asked, or have failed to ask me anything about the material points to the conclusion that neither of you have done your homework to understand where my world view comes from. You guys haven't the interest. And so you guys don't listen very well. That's not an indictment, it is simply what it is. Now Sunmaster has said that he's currently reading one of Seth's early, unpublished works so I give you credit there. But I'll warn, as long as you bring your current beliefs with you and by doing so attempt to sift the material through those beliefs you will gain very little, if anything.
  24. Nice post, scorecard, and thanks for the personal story. It was most enjoyable. Your experience was a real eye opener for you. A man of the cloth who does not truly believe what he preaches and so lies so that others maintain faith in his God. Question his God and his wrath, not God's, will come down on you. You might find some of that going on here. BTW, here's an early 80th birthday greeting for you.
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