[Electric Vehicles in Thailand]

3 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

@Yellowtail, @ExpatOilWorker, @vinny41, @transam

 

Please go troll someplace else.

 

Actually, I do enjoy their trolling, especially when accompanied with inaccurate and/or ignorant comments.

 

Keep up the good work boys.

[Electricity use hit new high Monday night as Thailand continues to swelter]

4 hours ago, Sydebolle said:

I did all the calculations; a single house with a 8x4 swimming pool (i.e. a pump running 2 x 1 hour/daily) and comfy air temperatures by state-of-the-art inverter units cannot be fed with solar power to reach a breakeven point. 

Even if the swimming pool pump works on-grid only (i.e. no sun = no electricity), you still cannot make ends meet and hence it is with the money-greedy government to do its home work on the taxation of solar power equipment imports. 

All this is of course a big joke considering the fact, that we live in a country with 250+ sunshine days a year while in frozen Europe with not even half the solar power they manage to run the latter with efficiency and profitability of the equipment owner - go back and do your home work! 

 

3 hours ago, statman78 said:

We installed solar panels 13 months ago.  I’ve been tracking our power usage and comparing it to our usage to the time before we installed the system.  Based on this info our savings will pay for the system in a little over 6 years.  The warranty on the electronics is 10 years and the panels for 20 years.  The company comes annually to check the system and clean the panels.  Well worth the investment.

The ROI will even be quicker if you are on TOU.

[Electric Vehicles in Thailand]

8 minutes ago, transam said:

If you have to resort to personal attacks instead of answering with something useful, you are cornered...........😉

 

15 hours ago, transam said:

That just shows how stupid you are, can't answer a simple question put to you...

Which is the EV owner's norm..

Hmmmm…

[Electric Vehicles in Thailand]

4 hours ago, transam said:

That reads like you are cornered.......😉

Just because you have a shovel doesn’t mean that you should keep digging.

[The reality]

2 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

 

The title of the thread is "Reality". EV's are one-trick ponies. 0 to whatever acceleration is their only trick. Or the only trick people keep harping on about. 

 

GWM Ora is quicker away from the lights but slower to 100kph/60 than a Suzuki Celerio.

You’ve obviously never sat in an EV, much less driven one.

 

You should try it sometime, before common here and exposing your ignorance.

 

 

 

[Electric Vehicles in Thailand]

14 minutes ago, transam said:

This is an EV thread, the bloke asked a relevant question...........🤔

 

Yes, folk have been electrocuted changing light bulbs, the same as any electrical item, responsibility for using that item is up to the user, unless an item has been proven unsafe............ 

seems like the point I was making has gone over your head. No surprises there.

 

The other poster asked what on the surface seemed like a reasonable question but included an advertisement from an ambulance chasing legal firm which immediately brought into doubt the sincerity of the question. You would have to be intellectually challenged not to realise that.

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6 minutes ago, transam said:

That just shows how stupid you are, can't answer a simple question put to you...

Which is the EV owner's norm..

Has anyone been electrocuted changing a light bulb? Who’s responsible for inventing the light bulb?

 

In any case, the thread posters have already casted their votes as to which of us is more intellectually challenged.

[Electricity use hit new high Monday night as Thailand continues to swelter]

Hot weather, my behind. It’s all this EVangelists charging their Chinese made milk floats.

[BYD Seal tips, tricks and help]

Good video on the Seal by a petrol head

 

 

[Electric Vehicles in Thailand]

1 hour ago, balo said:

Anyone been electrocuted in Thailand while charging their EV?     

https://www.christmasinjurylawyers.com/blog/man-electrocuted-by-ev-charging-station/

Stupid…

 

48 minutes ago, balo said:

Since this is Thailand I think it's a good question, people are getting electrocuted all the time.   Who are responsible for building them? 
 

and stupider.

[The reality]

6 hours ago, Lacessit said:

If one was to replace every ICE in Australia with an EV, it would reduce CO2 emissions by a mere 9%.

 

EV's are good for city environments, by reducing air pollution.

 

The simple fact is we are still reliant on fossil fuels for two-thirds of our electricity generation, EV's are a drop in the bucket in comparison.

Could it be because they burn a lot of coal there? The less coal that is burnt, the higher your percentage would be, wouldn’t it?

[The reality]

7 hours ago, vinny41 said:

When the number of deaths and serious injury increase to an unacceptable level due to extreme  acceleration

Expect that manufacturers will be required to mandatory apply a change to all existing and new vehicles to limit the  extreme  acceleration on EV's

Extreme Acceleration Is the New Traffic Safety Frontier

The electric vehicle revolution has also helped deliver a new golden age of automotive horsepower — and safety regulators aren’t ready for it

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2023-01-06/welcome-to-the-age-of-extreme-acceleration

So it looks like, apart from being a 3rd world country, the drivers in the US are not exactly competent either.

[The reality]

7 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Accelerating, but using the brakes??

If I were living in America, I probably wouldn’t buy an EV either. Rubbish products, no Chines made EVs available. Poor charging infrastructure, crap maintenance (with the possible exception of Tesla supercharges), unreliable electricity generation. Power outages when too hot or too cold.

[The reality]

From what I gather, it seems that the problems are the respective incompetent governments and bureaucrats, the unnecessary bureaucracy, the lack of funds (although there’s plenty to spend on making war around the world), the determination to contain especially China by insisting on paying more for solar panels made in the west etc etc.

 

If a country like China can provide enough electricity for its EVs when most of its population was bicycling only 40 years ago, it beggars description that western countries are struggling. To me, it’s a sign of their decline.

[Electric Vehicles in Thailand]

15 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Well China's powerful but to say that they are the world's power I think is a great exaggeration. They have a handful of deep sea ports and they have no deep sea Navy thus far. The US has the most powerful deep sea Navy on the planet and far more deep sea ports around the world. 

 

The other big factor is that they're very afraid of having their currency traded outside of China, and therefore it's not a negotiable currency around the world. They will never be a major player until they give up that intense need for control. 

China doesn’t have deep sea ports all over the world because they don’t want to exert control or dominance, unlike the US.

 

Very simply, between China and the US at the moment, which country is involved in both major wars happening? Hint (since you only get your information from MSM): it’s not China

[EV Charging Stations (CS)]

22 hours ago, transam said:

Could be, as you were one too....................😂

One of us still is and I reckon the majority of posters know who…

 

I previously owned an ICEV as that was the only option available. Hobson’s choice and all that you know. And then one morning, I woke up and saw the LIGHT… Now I’m SAVED from spending hard earned money on fossil fuels. Hallelujah!

[EV Charging Stations (CS)]

16 hours ago, transam said:

I went to Tesco/Lotus this morning, in walking back to the car I noticed a charging station, hmm, I thought, that's new.

There was a car parked in front of it with a bloke inside, then as I walked past I noticed the engine was running.............🤣...........

More evidence that ICE drivers are rather, shall we say, intellectually challenged?

[Big layoffs ahead in the automotive workshop sector - hold on to your hats!]

18 hours ago, Presnock said:

The switch to EV in the US reportedly has already hit the brakes as Americans are used to climbing into their vehicle and driving for hours without having to stop except for maybe a "pit stop" and the EV's just cannot do those long trips YET.  Also the cost of vehicles is becoming difficult for many as wages have not come up to the losses due to inflation and housing is much more expensive than ever before with taxes being increased to pay for all the illegals pouring in.  Once people realize the pollution costs of the materials needed for the EV's they will shudder to think they bought into this by the big $$$$ companies.  Just like Big Pharma - over 500 new billionaires duirng the COVID pandemic and people are still paying for that.  Now we are learning that foods can prevent and cure illnesses instead of drugs and medicines and have no harmful effects on the human body.  Again we were led stray by the Big $$$ companies.  China meanwhile is trying to cover the world with their EV's...should be interesting anyway in my opinion.

The poor performance of EV sales in the US has been well documented and discussed. Very simply, inferior products at exorbitant prices. Add to that, poor charging infrastructure. It’s a no brainer.

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16 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

No. I will buy an American or European made product over a Chinese product, every single opportunity I get. Not only are they higher quality, but I get to deny the subsidized Chinese factories, and the heinous CCP. Call it whatever you like. Makes no difference to me. Never been particularly concerned with criticism, nor name calling.

 

Why? Closer ties to China are not a good idea. They are up to no good. Their intentions are heinous. Their desire for power and dominnance knows no bounds. They cannot and should not be trusted. They are NOT a reliable ally, and are not a good or trustworthy world power. They are only one step above Russia, on the trust scale. Worldwide slavery, and organ harvesting? No thanks Xi. 

 

Perhaps the Chinese should educate themselves on what their own government is doing to the minorities in the West, and Falun Gong members.

Falun Gong practitioners across China are subject to widespread surveillance, arbitrary detention, imprisonment, and torture, and they are at a high risk of extrajudicial execution. The party-state invests hundreds of millions of dollars annually in the campaign to crush Falun Gong, while simultaneously engaging in exploitative and lucrative forms of abuse against practitioners, including extortion and prison labor.

https://freedomhouse.org/report/2017/battle-china-spirit-falun-gong-religious-freedom

The Chinese government has imprisoned more than one million people since 2017 and subjected those not detained to intense surveillance, religious restrictions, forced labor, and forced sterilizations.

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/china-xinjiang-uyghurs-muslims-repression-genocide-human-rights
 

You really are a laugh a minute. Both sources you quoted are funded by the US State department. Any light bulbs going off?

[ICE vs EV, the debate thread]

13 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

Donkeys years ago (when I had a proper MG), when driving in the rain the roof leaked so much a bag on your head was handy!

Ah yes, I remember it well. Those were the days when it was a wholly owned British company. They sure know something about building cars in those days. 

[Electric Vehicles in Thailand]

13 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I don't trust Chinese cars, and I don't like supporting Chinese companies, nor the Chinese government. So I have multiple reasons to never buy a Chinese car. 

 

Not gonna happen. 

And there we have it. The perfect example of a brainwashed, propagandised westerner, who won’t buy a cheaper but undoubtedly superior product, just because he can’t let go of his bias and prejudices.

 

But he posts in a thread that is for all intents and purposes, a thread about Chinese made cars. What a laugh.

[Electric Vehicles in Thailand]

Looks like a hybrid. I think I see a tailpipe. There has been quite a few reports of BYD hybrids catching fire.

 

Notice also the fire starting in the engine compartment rather than battery pack which would have been located on the bottom of the car.

[ICE vs EV, the debate thread]

13 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Range anxiety is a thing of the past and was real for the first EVs with unreliable range. Top Gear did a few segments where the trio was driving along with 200 km range and then 30 km later, range had dropped to 20 km. With few to no charging stations around, they have to run a power cable out a hotel window to charge over night.

There is no range anxiety or any other kind of anxiety with the cars you guys are driving now and the current charging station infrastructure. 

 

I think we need to report this post to the mods as I suspect this account has been hacked.

 

I suspect @JBChiangRai as I believe he’s an IT guy…

[NATO should recruit Thailand, Singapore, Philippines, Japan, and more, ex-commander says]

3 hours ago, Schnicnac said:

 

Haven't seen Russia or China shipping troops thousands of kilometers from their shores to search in vain for nuclear weapons or fighting another system, but rather engage in disputes with neighbors which is pretty more common than you may think.

 

Since the end of Britain's 99 year lease in 1997 China has re-exercised control over the whole of Hong Kong and two years later Macau, nothing new about it. Actually by just looking at a map you may find out they are located at the Southern tip of Guangdong, write and speak Chinese 🙂If you think about it, the Qing had been pretty generous to even give Britain such a long lease after being defeated in wars against state sponsored drug trafficking.

 

And last but not least, even the Republic of China on Taiwan (yes that's the formal name) happens to have maritime disputes in the South China Sea overlapping for example with those of the Philippines as it conflicts with their not 9 but 11 dash line. So what are we going to do about it? 🙂

+1.

Conflicts in the South China Sea is a regional matter. Pretty much all affected countries have territorial disputes. China, PH, Brunei, Malaysia, Vietnam. But of course it suits the western narrative that it’s only China that is the aggressor. I remember a time when France, UK, Ireland and a few other countries were also having disputes with regards to the fishing waters. These disputes are best solved with diplomacy, not military conflict as espoused by the greatest war monger of them all.

[NATO should recruit Thailand, Singapore, Philippines, Japan, and more, ex-commander says]

Coming back on topic, I doubt any ASEAN country with the possible exception of PH would want NATO here. 
 

PH is probably the most corrupt country in SEA. The current president is the son of the second most politician the world has ever seen. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree and undoubtedly, the US has all sorts of unsavoury information on him.

 

Japan might want NATO to protect it from China. China will never invade but Japan will always fear that China might take revenge for all the unspeakable evils that Japan has committed against China over the past few centuries. This is a country that will never feel peace until they acknowledge and apologise for their crimes against humanity.

 

Korea might want NATO as protection against that unstable man to their North. I can understand that but if one believes in miracles, then a reunification will bring peace to the peninsula.

 

Australia is just being dense. Due to its geographical location, it is pretty much un-invadable (if there’s such a word). All that Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi and Vegemite has irreversibly reduced their collective IQ 9just joking).

 

As for the US, of course they want it. Conflict and instability is what the country thrives on and for the real masters, the MIC, this is just good business.