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On 3/21/2021 at 5:37 PM, DrJack54 said:
You making this stuff up! So if using money in bank and your imm office (ie Jomtien) requires you to show your bankbook etc 3 months after extension granted and you just happen to be overseas then you need fly back to Thailand to show your bank book.
Good one. Ha
Don't be ridiculous. That's not what I said or implied. It would be prudent to contact immigration before going overseas and agree what to do - before, after or they might waiver.
You seem to think arrogantly turning up and saying you were overseas will be politely accepted. There is nothing to say it will or won't yet. Perhaps you should be the volunteer instead of misleading others when you clearly ain't got a clue.
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4 hours ago, Saltire said:
The 'big deal' for doing my 90 day in person is the 320Km round trip to spend 5 minutes in the office.
For 4 years I have used the online for all but one of my previous reports (last one being new passport requring a visit to move stamps and do 90 day at the same time).
So it's not a case of 'popping down' for many of us.
Mine is due 17 April, I will go 20th and when I am there ask if they will accept mail in option in lieu off no online.
It really is a PITA and I would do a happy dance if it was done away with.
Indeed. Some people have much further to travel; and some offices are more "unique" in their requirements for things.
It's also the case that things can go smoothly, almost becoming a breeze for several years and then, for no particular reason or logic someone decides to make it more awkward. It's the "whim of the boss, new boss or individual officer that can make a simple task difficult, for no apparent reason.
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2 hours ago, MisterTee said:People with nasty hostile attitudes often trigger bureaucrats.
I've seen it happen so frequently that I do my best to appear amiable no matter how I really feel.
Spot on. Keep smiling, always be polite and never ever challenge in a way that could make someone loose face.
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On 4/12/2021 at 5:32 PM, Andrew Dwyer said:Just get the 90 day online report working again or scrap the whole thing , don’t overthink it and over complicate it with a concoction of stoopid new rules ................................ I know, I know, wishful thinking on my part ????
Totally agree; and preferably your second suggestion! Just make it a rule that people have to notify immigration if they change their permanent address. It's confirmed every year when applying for an extension of stay anyway.
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On 3/12/2021 at 7:59 PM, DrJack54 said:
Stop worrying. If you deal with imm office that requires you to show bankbook post 3 months and you are not in the country then just visit imm office upon return. Bring along passport to show stamps out/in and TM6.
And you have this on authority do you?
No, it's just you thinking you can apply common sense and logic, as you see it. And as we've read, time and time again, common sense and logic have nothing to do with it. All depends on the individual officer on the day!
I'd suggest anyone in this position contacts their Immigration Office and ask them before, not after.
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On 3/11/2021 at 3:09 PM, DrJack54 said:
Talk about putting a spin on things.
There are ~ 80 immigration offices. I suggest 70+ offices do not require return to imm 3 months post application to check funds. To put it more simply there are a few rogue offices that require this, with Jomtien being the largest. Absolute ridiculous situation.
What are you talking about? Some do, some don't. You seem to think that just because many don't it means that's some sort of rule. It doesn't. The issue is there are no standard and set procedures around how officers must apply the rules and verify things. Therefore there can be no "rogues" as you insist but simply differences. As to what makes some officers and offices do things differently, we can only speculate as their is no direction or comment from the center.
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On 3/7/2021 at 6:58 AM, DrJack54 said:
Don't think it works that way.
If your were o/s the report back showing the funds would need to be done upon return.
Your stamp in pp would show when you exited and returned.
However don't know how it works when your away from your area in Thailand. Perhaps someone that deals with one of these rogue immigration offices could advise.
There is no empirical evidence to check how it works. But logically, if you were overseas and missed reporting back showing your bank balance was maintained, you'd have to go when you returned.
Of course, assuming the balance has been maintained.
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On 3/8/2021 at 11:40 AM, Chicken George said:
My local office checks your balances for the previous year when you renew. If you have not kept the balance up no renewal and have to start again... No idea if they have canceled anyone's as I can only report what they said to me.
I thinks that's what they, or the vast majority did, to start with.
But that doesn't answer how they would deal with the issue of the previous extension being cancelled as soon as you went below the required balance. If, as some offices clearly indicate, your extension of stay permission is cancelled, then you would be on overstay because you are here without a valid visa or visa extension.
The have been no reports of this actually happening, and hopefully no one will ever find themselves in that position. But until then, prudence seems better.
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On 3/8/2021 at 9:48 AM, DrJack54 said:
@Gold Star I think the above advice is on the money.
Being Oz and not having the option of income affidavit from my embassy I use money in the bank method. I choose to put 800+ in an FD account and just leave it.
Be aware that's it's very few immigration offices that require you to return 3 months after your extension is approved. As far as I know no office has required the 3 month report back followed by another 3 months later. However I guess anything is possible.
If you know your plans re living area when in Thailand you could check out local requirements. The vast majority do not require follow up check as per Jomtien along with few others which make their own rules.
These type of changes, IME, usually occur when new senior officer(s) come in. It seems they like to change a few things to show they've arrived!
Bit like charging a fee for the "free" address confirmation - some charge, some don't. But depends on the boss at the time.
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On 3/7/2021 at 6:58 AM, DrJack54 said:
Don't think it works that way.
If your were o/s the report back showing the funds would need to be done upon return.
Your stamp in pp would show when you exited and returned.
However don't know how it works when your away from your area in Thailand. Perhaps someone that deals with one of these rogue immigration offices could advise.
Given that most if not all offices seem to have their preferences and quirks; not to mention individual IO oddities, why do you insist on calling these offices "rogue' for checking compliance in a way that's not how you'd prefer?
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On 3/6/2021 at 10:35 PM, DrJack54 said:
They can check all that at time of next extension. The same way that 95+% of immigration offices currently do.
They could. But that doesn't mean other offices won't follow suit or introduce their own variant. What is not known is why some have chosen to do this, others not.
Is it some how envisaged as saving them time when processing renewal applications? Or have some offices had issues with people not complying? Or another idea to get people to use agents?
Unfortunately, it's all speculation.
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On 3/6/2021 at 10:38 PM, DrJack54 said:
You should include your immigration office in the title as items like this one are not required. Along with other items.
It's in the first sentence! You read that way before the reference to TM30.
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On 3/6/2021 at 10:31 PM, damascase said:
They are only verifying whether you comply with the legal requirements........
Perhaps. But why not check monthly then? Yes that would be an overkill. But why only check the 400k after 6 months and not 9?
I really have no idea, nor does anyone else. We can speculate but that all it is.
And why are all offices not verifying compliance?
The reason Big Joke introduced this during his short reign seems to have been lost really. All it has done is create another rule that some seek to circumvent, and more bureaucracy for some.
I haven't read any reports so far of anyone whose not complied. So we have yet to see what happens.
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I extended my permission to stay end of last month. Pathumthani immigration now requires 2 additional visits to confirm the financials are maintained. My extension was granted and a slip inserted in my passport. The requirement now is to go back in 3 months to show the 800k ThB balance minimum has been maintained; and then go back in another 3 months to show the 400k ThB balance minimum has been maintained. The slip also states that failure to go back or maintain the balances means the visa / extension is cancelled. The nice lady who takes the photographs and hands finished passports back was carefully pointing this out to everyone.
Other changes were that the officer checking documents also now takes the fee and inserts it in your passport before taking the docs through to the general office. Change is given with the receipt and passport are returned. You used to have to get a new TM30 produced first. Now they just take a photocopy of the existing one. If you don't have one then you must go and get one first.
General comment: almost all of the officers were new, including the seniors. The general office was full of stacks of forms and paperwork, tied in large bundles with ribbon; stacked 2-3 feet high. Must be having a clear out?
The process was very quick and efficient. The officers worked hard and the queue cleared very quickly. But I really have no idea as to why they now want to see bank books after 3 months and again after 6.
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1 hour ago, Geoffggi said:
I worked in the Middle East for a considerable time and know exactly what goes on there
And you're not the only one.
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1 hour ago, Geoffggi said:
I would be very surprised if the people going there were not aware of this possibility prior to leaving Thailand so no real surprises .................LOL
There are lady only spas in Abu Dhabi that offer various traditional massages. A male requiring a therapy massage will only have male masseurs.
There are also plenty of ads for massages, escorts, etc there too nowadays.
Anyone thinking of working their needs to very clearly distinguish between the two.
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On 1/13/2021 at 4:29 PM, brewsterbudgen said:
The documents are not sent to India (that's for visas). The passport application is DHL'd direct from Bangkok to Liverpool, and then back.
Thanks for that clarification. Can you recommend a photographers that have experience in UKPO approved passport photos?
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On 1/20/2021 at 11:04 AM, 4reaL said:
Like in some US Police forces if they are/were jump qualified (in the military) they are allowed to wear them on their uniforms.
Several teachers and civil servants I know wear them on their uniforms. None were in the military or jump qualified. I was told, rightly or wrongly, they had done a course in which they jump of a para training tower x number of times. I suspect some never even did this. None had jumped from an aeroplane.
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Just now, 4MyEgo said:
I think the chart might be a ways off for 2020
Its based on ONS estimates for 2020 so the final number will be different. How much different remains to be seen. But the 2019 number is the actual number.
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3 hours ago, prakhonchai nick said:
During April/May last year VFS closed, as HMPO in the UK closed. Now with such a high rate of Covid 19 infections in the UK it would appear likely thet HMPO will once again shut, followed naturally by VFS.
Does anyone know what Immigration do with foreigners whose both passport and visa extensions have expired, and they have no way of obtaining new passports in the short term?
I don't know the answer. But a friend of mine might. He was affected by the delays in getting a new passport and was getting dangerously close to missing his extension renewal date. Not heard from him for a couple of weeks so will check.
He uses an agent and the agent had told him that with only an expired passport immigration wouldn't do anything. He'd simply be told he had 7 days to leave the country and have to get an emergency travel document from the British Embassy. That was the agent's opinion based on immigration not being able to use a passport that's expired and therefore not valid.
That's speculative based on the the agent's opinion, but he's working regularly with immigration. I'll see what happened. My friend was expediting the new passport and sweating on its arrival.
It's potentially made worse if HMPO and VFS close down again too.
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On 1/9/2021 at 11:49 AM, Liverpoolfan said:
did mine a few months back.
New passport returned to me within 2 weeks.
Excellent service, will use them again.
That's good to see. Considering the documents go from Thailand to India and then Liverpool; and then the new passport has to come back, that's a damn good service.
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4 hours ago, graemeaylward said:
The numbers increased yesterday! Since January 8th the numbers have gradually increased so what is he talking about. The number of tests is extremely low and until that increases to a reasonable level, we just don't know. As I said in another post, UK, on 11th Jan tested 536,947 people and over the previous 7 days tested 3,946,344 people and yet Thailand are going to take 2 weeks to test 20,000 people!
How many cases in Thailand, and how many deaths? How many people in hospital in Thailand?
Now compare the answers with the UK.
Sensible comparison you think?
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2 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:I'm still in my winter PJ's, robe and winter socks at time of typing and it's 1pm, also haven't showered for 2 days, better get off my rear so that I can get back into my PJ's, robe and winter socks again after a quick wash.
Tiruk................fill up the buckets, will be there in a minute.
Ah ah, living proof the MoH was right! Dirty farang don't shower twice a day!! ????????
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51 minutes ago, mfd101 said:
Statistics management skills are improving by the day.
Whilst interpreting statistics skills aren't! Just look at the different interpretations on TVF.
My old statistics lecturer used to say the correct use of statistics was the way a drunk uses a lamp post - for support not illumination!
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Phuket Immigration Now Want Bank Statement for 1 YEAR for 1 Year Extension
in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
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Once again highlighting that all offices do whatever they think. The rules are made and handed down. How to check on and enforce those rules is left open. And there see,s some very differing opinions on how to do that!
My IO doesn't request bank statements, so far. Just the letter and copies of bank book pages. I mentioned that some IO's are now asking for 12 month bank statements to my bank manager earlier this year. She threw a real wobbly, as if that was asking for something totally beyond their capabilities!
It's the inconsistencies, vagaries and on occasion unwarranted insistence on things that just don't seem relevant that cause so much headache. Sadly, unlikely to change anytime soon.