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On 5/11/2020 at 10:47 PM, richard_smith237 said:
If you have a Non-Immigrant Type O Multiple Entry Visa based on Marriage you can extend the Visa by another 60 days (in effect giving you 5 months) without having to leave the country. When you extend for 60 days you would also have to carry out our 90 day report, at the same time you could also apply for a Residence Certificate.
Thus: Perhaps look into the possibilities of extending your visa without having to leave Thailand.
Richard, do you actually READ, what I wrote? I wrote I don`t need a retirement visa and dump 800K Baht in Thailand (Goodbye, my money) and I'm NOT married and I don't need an extension. All I need is a Certificate of Residence from Immigration.
And it seems, they only issue that CR, if you have bought your way through them by means of retirment visa.-
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16 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:
As I understand it: IF you have carried out a 90day report (i.e. at Chaengwattana Immigration) you can receive Certificate of Residence from the same Immigration Office.
Which Embassy will not issue an Affirmation of Residence letter (I know the British Embassy still does - but only if you are on a Resident Visa which your Non-Imm O is).
Another option is to secure a Tambien Baan - Yellow house book (and pink ID card), you can use this as Proof of Address when applying for a Thai driving licence.
I'd be happy, if that were the case, but:
My visa need no 90 days trip to chaeng Wattana but latest after 89 days I have to exit the country. The visa is a "Non-IM O" with multiple entries, issued by a Thai Embassy. This visa is perfect legal, especially, as visas are normally issued abroad and not in the destination country.
I know of several Embassies here, that don't issue Certificate of Residence for use in Thailand. Only for use "at home".
As for the Yellow Tabien Baan, you won't get one, if you rent out an appartment in a building, where there are several, maybe hundreds of appartments, all owned by one owner company. No owner will be giving out such Yellow Books for fear, he might have to take responsibility for whatever he can imagine.
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18 hours ago, jacko45k said:
You are here on a short term Visa, which does not even require you to do 90 day reports, yet want a 5 year driving licence. ( I presume you are after 5 year licences). If you have managed to obtain Multiple Entry Non-Imm-Os perhaps you have a Thai wife and a one year marriage extension is an option. Prior to Covid were Non-Imm-Os, ME, not getting harder to obtain anyhow?
Slightly off the facts, what you assume. I'm here since the last century, first working, now each year on a 1 year Non-IM "O" /multy entries without a Thai wife and marriage extensions. I get these visas from the Thai Embassy abroad without any problems. IMHO there is a scuffle going on between the Foreign Ministry (Embassies) and the Interior Ministry (Police/Immigration), so they don't accept the others visa.
But that still doesn't explain, why the immgration behaves like that.
And I still wonder, where and how I can get a Residence Certificate in order to get a new driving licence... -
I'm up for renewal of my drivers licenses (car and bike), but it seems I can't get the necessary Residence Certificate. My embassy doesn't issue these for Thai agencies etc. only for home country official requests. That is an official form I did download from their web site.
The Immigration at Cheng Wattana won't give me a Certificate, as I am here (since many years) on a Non-Im "O" w/ multipe entries. They claim, they only issue such Certificates to folks on a 1-year visa, meaning I should apply for a retirement visa, which I definitely will not do. I don't pay them unnecessary 1.900 baht AND put down 800K Baht in a Thai bank account, just to extend my drivers licences.
So I wonder what to do. I already asked the DLT, which kind of residence certificate they accept, and Embassy and Immigration are the only two sources they accept.
So now what to do? -
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Obviously that article in the Berlin MoPo (which has also a printed edition!) was a paid-for piece. Likely the guy was either in Berlin or in Bangkok but has no way to compare. Remember, there are no flights going nowadays. The higher numbers in Gemrany might quite simply be due to much more rigorous testing in Germany that here... No test, no case,- the favourite solution in Thailand.
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Thanks eversomuch, UbonJoe.
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I read here a lot about Tourist Visa extensions and Non-Immigrants with Family Visa extensions, but what about those, who get their "Non-Im 0" with multiple entries from a Thai Embassy/Consulate abroad. Will those visas be extended as well, following what criteria? If I can't exit after 90 days, because all flights are cancelled and all borders are shut, what's then left to do?
Will i get an automatic extension for 30 days each, until borders are open again? Do I have to apply at Chaeng Wattana or where, having what documents?
Questions and yet more questions... -
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In these times of a looming viral pandemic, is it suitable for Immigration at all points of entry to let everybody put his fingers on a piece of glass for fingerprint-ID, when the person before might already have the dreaded disease? Shouldn't that glas be cleaned each time to avoid a mass infection? Or if this is not possible to at least for some time stop this fingerprinting in the name of health. And also to avoid Thailand being blamed for allowing the spread of CoVir-19?
Just thinking aloud...-
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Official sides in TH claim, some 500 mill. Baht are open from treating foreigners. That claim covers how many years? And even if true, that is only 1% of the money, the Thai Government has forgotten to pay to the Thai Social Security Office, which also covers Health Insurance (mostly for Thais).
I assume, the Thai Insurance Industry is looking for new avenues of creating income and singled out rich foreign customers as promising targets. Then a little bit of greasing at the right places and such a proposal is made and subsequently enforced. Would not be the first time things went this way.
With many sides in TH meanwhile complaining loudly about the faltering tourism I doubt this will last much longer or even be enlarged. -
Just posted it in a similar topic here:
"... an O-A is for people, who do NOT leave the country every 90 days. So to avoid the insurance scam, it would make sense to go for a regular Non-Im O/M and leave the country every 89 days. Flying to Chiang Rai is easy, hop on a bus to Mae Sai and there cross over to Tachilek. Just get your stamps the same day and back to C.R. Have some Northern Food and the next day fly back and you're done. A nice excursion of 3 days. Or fly to Vietnam or to Singapore (2,5 hours).
Sounds better than an outrageous insurance bill."
So if you are 75 or older and still fit, the "O" without the "A" might be a sensible solution...-
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About the hospitals sitting on unpaid bills:
I know a hospital around here, that left the group of hospitals, that accept Social Security Office members. Why? Because the SSO hasn't paid its bill for quite some time... And the SSO is NOT foreigners.
Next, the SSO is funded by contributions of 5% each from employee and employer (max. 750 B/month), plus 2.75% from the Government. Only... the government hasn't transferred it's dues, amouting to around 56 Billion Baht so far. That was reported in local newspapers!
So the hospitals would be glad, if the government paid up first and then maybe the hospitals get their outstanding bills paid. -
Just looked at an embassy site and it says, an O-A is for people, who do NOT leave the country every 90 days. So to avoid the insurance scam, it would make sense to go for a regular Non-Im O/M and leave the country every 89 days. Flying to Chiang Rai is easy, hop on a bus to Mae Sai and there cross over to Tachilek. Just get your stamps the same day and back to C.R. Have some Northern Food and the next day fly back and you're done. A nice excursion of 3 days. Or fly to Vietnam or to Singapore (2,5 hours).
Sounds better than an outrageous insurance bill. -
I got an Non-Im "O" with multiple entries, but there is no "A" in sight. Is the O-A for foreigners, who need not leave the country every 90 days?
Another point: As slightly over 50% of the overall tax income of Thailand is due to VAT, foreigners do in fact pay as much taxes as 70% of all Thais.
And finally, Thais going to Europe need to prove to have a valid travel health insurance, but that is a lot cheaper, even though health expenses are way higher in Europe. In general, unless it is an emergency, no "customer" is admitted to hospital unless it is cleared, that he/she can pay the bill. A valid credit card is a magic key... -
As mentioned somewhere above, it is one issue, whether airline refuse to transport you, but theactual question was more about the immigration staff at the Thai arrival port.
Per forma you get a "visa exepmtion" aka transit visa only if you can provide proof of an onward travel. That's the regulation. How strict that is enforced propably depends on the officer at airport immigration.
Meanwhile you have to show a return flight even if you are returning to Thailand as your home country (as shown in your passport as city of residence). So even abroad you have to show your ticket to obtain a visa.
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Actually what pi..ed me off is the company here, that knowingly sends people to Adelaide and taking 10.7K Baht from them, when they know the game is over since quite some time.
I mean how deep can you sink to make a few bucks...?
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Maybe people should just stop giving money to "law offices" just to be issued with crafted credentials referring to non-existing work or business in Thailand.
If your friend works in Thailand he can obtain a work permit then the multiple-entry visa in Penang, Malaysia. Otherwise he'll have to obtain another type of visa just like everybody else.
In general you're right, but with the Thai govt being so strict, they force a lot of people to use this kind of detour.
My friend isn't 50 years old jet to apply for a retirement visa, but he has enough money to support himself in Thailand without having to work here.
But I think esp. the present govt is uneasy about anything foreign, as foreigners don't obey the military as much as locals propably are used to do. So they don't want to have foreigners around...
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A friend of mine very recently went to Adelaide to get a 1 year Non-Im -B- Visa with multiple entries.
He had followed the advice of Sunbelt Asia Co., that Sunbelt Asia will issue him with all the necessary paperwork to apply succesfully in Adelaide, all this for a fixed fee of 10,700 Baht. The person at Sunbelt had assured him, that this is still working and many before him did this with success.
However the staff at the Consulate in Adelaide told my friend he can get only a single entry Non-Im -B- visa and that Sunbelt Asia should stop sending people over to apply for this kind of visa.
All in all my friend spend something around 2,000 US$, including the "fee" for Sunbelt Asia, for flights, hotels etc., only to get a single entry visa.
So others should be warned and avoid contacting Sunbelt Asia for this purpose.
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It looks very much as if the generals are trying to turn back the clock by about 50 years.
No freedom of speech, so nobody can pinpoint corruption of the powerful. Who is corrupt is being defined by the military, depending on who is their enemy. Too bad, the military - by definition - have got no clue of the meaning of "personal oppinion" or "free speech". Military and "personal oppinion" is contradictory.
Where Taksin tried to shut up his opponents by million Baht libel suits, the generals use not only paragraphs but also corruption charges.
Meanwhile the world - except Thailand - moves further on...
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... Again, TVF members should do some internet research regarding backgrounds related to RTP and the Thai military.
It is an eye-opener!
Any specific URLs to visit? C'mon give us some leads...!
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The drivers licence have it written (and shown as an image) on the backside, if they are valid for cars or motorcycles. Are there any other licences for normal (private) drivers?
What I find most interesting is the point, that this licence would then be valid in all 10 countries of ASEAN. No more hassle with the police in Cambo or other countries, no need to apply for yet another licence.
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Borwornsak Uwanno is right, when he says:
"Young men and women should be people with idealism and recognise the importance of justice. I don't understand where these people have gone. If we want society to be just and peaceful you can't just be idle and you must come out and take responsibility constructively ..."
But for this, the environment must be suitable. Subduing ever little bit of protest of difference of oppinion is certainly not favourable for a democratic behaviour as Khun Borwornsak is asking for. So far I am not aware of ANY kind of discussion about the pros and cons of yellow or red shirt politics of the past. Putting the lid on any such discussion will only increase the pressure to explode an a later time.
And if the present government is fighting against corruption, then why does it not allow public scrutiny of it's own handling of politics. That implies, that corruption NOW may not be pointed out. So why then should anybody trust the generals?
I'm no friend of Mr. T or the red shirts, but to suppress the freedom of oppinion and the freedom of the press is the wrong way that will lead backwards not forewards. And why should students take part in this?
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That virtue council would then act like the sharia police in other countries, right? Take a personal look at the virtues of young ladies included? No more drinking after 10 pm? No more missing school? What else? Certainly nothing helpful for this country.
Some people should remember that wise word from very high up: Think first, and only then start to talk!
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Let's face it, UBER and all those other "share economy" businesses are crap!
They only help their owner(s) to make a big profit by offering service at below cost rates through using people, who think they can make some money by the side. Too bad, this doesn't work out for anybody except the owners of Uber et al. Why is everybody so upbeat about this hustle kind of business?
As a matter of fact it kills of lots of jobs of decent working people, be they taxi drivers or others, and not only in Thailand, but all over the world. What is left are underpaid people, who struggle to make ends meet. Remember the old mom-and-pop-shops? Gone with 7/11. Remember the book shops, where you could peruse books at leisure? Gone with Amazon. The fashion boutiques, where the real trendy stuff would be? Gone with H&M and again Amazon et al. In the end, you can't even touch and feel what you buy, nor can you check or ask about the goods. Buy it from what you get to know online and be damned. And lots of people are out of work, for the riches of a few people, that are a pain in the lower back.
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A good place, that can handle such amount and do it cheaply would be a university bookshop. I have good experience with the Chulalongkorn Bookshop, but there might be other universities closer to your place. Great: The also do simple binding including hardcover...
Covid-19 testing the food-processing facilities in Thailand?
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I wonder if there are any information available about whether Thai meat- seafood- and poultry-processing facilities have been tested for Covid-19 and what the results look like? Given, that US meat-processing facilies were super-spreader centers as were several pork-processing plants in Germany, and giving that the bird-flu several years ago had a likely starting point in industrial poultry-processing in Thailand... I wonder, if the government or relevant healthcare institutions have tested all these facilities in Thailand. Especially those west of Bangkok. The (un-)healthy working conditions for the staff and the cold/humid atmosphere in there are prime conditions for spreading Covid-19.
Else we might end up like Singapore, that had thought they won, only to be reminded, that they have lowly paid foreign workers living in cramped conditions, (un-)happily spreading Covid-19 all around.