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Just a reminder...ACAB! In case there were any doubt.
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4 hours ago, worgeordie said:
"You want to change the climate via rain-seeding airplanes? Might as well invest in Aboriginal raindancers to come and have a jump about for all the good that will do" read what i wrote I never said use rain seeding planes , That's what the Government said.
'Drones, police and rangers to observe the fires that any idiot could simply go to a website showing the latest satellite imagery to observe? Why? What's the point? They know where they are, I could list the ones for yesterday if you like." , i don't want them to use drones to see fires , BUT catch those going into the
forests to set fires ...
It seems to you we are doomed , nothing will change anything , I would hope one day something will
be done , and I am not giving up on that .
regards worgeordie
Sorry, didn't catch that was the Government's idea.
It doesn't have any easy solutions, since the conglomerates are responding to the market by producing a lot of cattle and commodities to feed them and other cash crops. They don't have to deal with the issues caused by the burning because they're one step or more removed and the government won't hold them accountable in Thailand while the government doesn't have much control over what happens in the rural areas in Laos. Not that there's a huge amount they can do about it if they require those commodities to serve their large markets which are mostly in Thailand.
The EU and other developed countries are implementing new rules that govern the origin of the major commodity crops that are imported into EU countries. These are aimed at preventing conversion of forests to cash cropping or plantations. However, the vast majority of these areas that are currently burning aren't good quality forest, they're swidden agriculture fields that are in various stages of fallow, so that regulation won't apply. Eventually one would expect that with the large number of sensors that are available and AI to handle a lot of the analysis load they're going to eventually drill down to source on everything and assign carbon and biodiversity costs to it all. But that's going to take quite some time. I don't see how you can get widespread permaculture in the sloped lands unless they're just really crowded and everyone is only into farming. But that's not really the issue in Thailand, there's lots of migration for employment in the cities and other economic alternatives.
As to the "mushrooms" and swidden agriculture, that has been going on for hundreds of years including the entire time when things were tolerable in the dry season. The rate of swidden hasn't really increased significantly since it's subsistence agriculture and there's low population growth in the poor rural areas and there's a lot of out-migration and availability of food from elsewhere.
This is just business.
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1 hour ago, helloagain said:
Total cop out, fix it. Send up your jets with GPS. Then army choppers with a few guns and land office to find out who owns the land then drag them into court with jail time. Next make contact with neighboring countries who also still burn that blows over Thailand.
You think the current jets don't have GPS? Wow. And you think that the number of land owners is so small you could chase after them with choppers and coppers and haul them all off to the land office? LOL. And what's the plan once you "make contact with neighboring countries"? Hold onto the phone while they try to stop laughing and answer your ridiculous questions?
Here's a hint about why this ain't changing. Those people you wish to conduct air raids upon and throw into jail are also known as the majority of the voting population in the North of Thailand. Capisce?
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21 minutes ago, worgeordie said:The Government just don't care, it's the same thing every year ,they know
it's going to happen , they know when and where ,and do what to prevent it.?
There is no deterrent ,people go into the forest and set it on fire ,for their
benefit , to make it easier to find mushrooms when the rains start, BUT it's
affecting so many people's health ,and also must be no good for
the tourist industry that provides jobs for so many,
Not buying corn from the neighbors , sending planes up to make rain ,when
are they going to be proactive and try and stop the fires before they start ,
make it illegal for villagers to go into the forest at this time of year , have
police, rangers ,army out and about up in the hills , employ drones , give
rewards for information about the arsonists ,do something ! every year
you think they will stop the smoke pollution , but nothing happens....
regards worgeordie
You're normally a sensible poster so it's disconcerting to observe you carrying water for the CP group while simultaneously casting all the blame upon the poor villagers who are simply trying to make a living. To suggest it's mushroom picking that is causing the fires to this extent is absurd.
You want to change the climate via rain-seeding airplanes? Might as well invest in Aboriginal raindancers to come and have a jump about for all the good that will do.
Drones, police and rangers to observe the fires that any idiot could simply go to a website showing the latest satellite imagery to observe? Why? What's the point? They know where they are, I could list the ones for yesterday if you like.
There is only one reason for such large-scale burning and that is cropping for commodities including corn, cassava, sugar cane, watermelon and other crops for the agro-industries in Thailand, China and Vietnam. These commodities are mostly grown via contract farming with small-scale middlemen who contract farmers to clear and plant the land then buy the crop. The crop is eventually sold to larger agro-industrial conglomerates such as the CP Group. CP Group doesn't contract farmers directly, since they're too huge, and it provides them with a degree of separation. Chinese industry and agriculture companies are not easily identified, controlled and boycotted. Everyone along this chain is making money including the authorities from village and district level upwards.
So you tell me how you're going to stop that. Except put away the fantasy solutions that haven't the slightest chance of occurring or doing anything about the actual problem. And stop blaming the villagers. You should understand by now who has the power and who makes the real money from this, and it ain't them.- 1
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4 hours ago, bendejo said:
Had great excuse for breaking out the tear gas and billy clubs, but the cop blew it.
Ah yes, the Right Wing solution to most everything, get the cops to start busting heads! What could go wrong?
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Oh sure, blame the poor boy. That horse was asking for it! He was nuzzling him provocatively first. And the boy gave him a carrot, nothing wrong with something consensual between two fully mature adults.
Or maybe he was a veterinarian-in-training and wanted to see how the pregnancy was going?
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Are there really that many travelers like this? Would they really choose their airports based on whether they're likely to be able to toss down a quick guzzle of Dom Perignon on their way to the gate? Classic Thai response to the unpleasant truth, let's put some lipstick on it and tell 'em it's a beauty queen!
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1 hour ago, Robert Paulson said:
Government needs to get out of the airline industry completely. Get rid of the tsa. Our flights would be easier and the costs would drop dramatically.
i got a promotional 1 baht flight to phuket once and I seriously could not believe how much the taxes and fees were. I can’t remember the exact cost but I think it was about 40 bucks, for a free flight!
Sure, take away the agency responsible for security at airports and that will fix everything! The Guv'ment shouldn't be involved at all! They shouldn't build the airports, hire and regulate the Air Traffic Controllers, set safety standards for airplanes and airplane components, make sure the pilots are well-trained and up on their certifications, enable the international transfer of passengers and luggage, undertake immigration and customs duties...
Because it's the marvelous private sector that can do all these things much more effectively and efficiently, amirite? Such as has been done successfully numerous times, including in....oh, problem. It's never been done successfully. But we can point to some things where for example we can compare the Public Sector approach to the Private, such as Health Care. There's one country that seems fixated on private sector health care, that is the USA. As it is also the world's main proponent of a capitalism-beats-all approach, then they would surely be able to show the rest of the "commie" world how good ol' fashioned American know-how and get-it-doneness can overcome the sluggish creep of socialism. And the results prove it conclusively! The costs for health care per capita are ranked:https://data.oecd.org/healthres/health-spending.htm
Guess who's number one? But of course, you'll point out, this is because they get the best health outcomes with their far more high-tech and efficient approach:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/05/us-healthcare-system-ranks-last-11-wealthiest-countriesHmmmmm. So the private sector approach is the MOST expensive of the different ones taken by the most developed countries in the world and also doesn't even appear within the lists of the best health outcome countries in the world.
In my opinion, the private sector approach works well for much of the economy but absolutely and utterly fails when it comes to provision of necessary services. These include health care, environmental and safety regulation, law enforcement, education and the military. Those are clearly best left to government to manage as demonstrated by numerous studies and the US' valiant efforts to prove the social democracies pre-eminence in the modern age.
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5 hours ago, RuamRudy said:
To be clear, can I declare my belief that the Israeli government has a long standing history of acting like an unspecified reprehensible historic government without fear of being called out for it?
Oh you think that's being subtle, do you? You'll need to get a bit more vague to get to the point of it being a dog whistle which appears to be your objective. A noble one to be sure.
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1 minute ago, beautifulthailand99 said:
Could it be I don't spend much time on here any more and those topics aren't discussed here - you make a lot of baseless assertions there. Have a nice day and calm down, dear, I'm sure you're a nice person in real life.
Or could it be you're a pontificating anti-semitic liar like Ozimoron? You're the one who asserted that you're the noble fighter against injustice (except against the Jews obviously) who never shirks a battle. So I went to observe you jousting with your enemies but found you not even on the battlefield. Unless of course it had to do with Israel, there's always an exception to every rule. And that exception, remarkably, always seems to be Israel for some folks. I don't think you're likely to be a pleasant person in real life, it's why I'm quite Left Wing but don't hang out much with those people. Wet, boring and generally unhygienic in my experience.
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7 minutes ago, ozimoron said:All nationalists are far right in my opinion. By definition. Thanks for the opportunity to clarify that.
Well, I see you've taken the time since this thread started to gain a PhD in Political Science. With wisdom like that, what's the point of debate?
The Jewish Communists who founded the "Labor Zionism" or "Social Zionism" movement sure would have been surprised to discover they're Far Right...
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4 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:
You don't know me, and I indeed do rail about these injustices from wherever they come. I've been on the left since my pallid youth, and if the Nazis came back to power, my indelible record of action will have me marked to go to the camps along with the oppressed of whatever stripe. So you can take your antisemite smear, elsewhere, I'm not interested. I have indeed seem progressive Jews say that have been smeared as kapos probably the most egregious smear one can say for standing up for Palestinian rights. I seem to remember Norman Finkelstein has accused Alan Dershowitz of saying that about his parents, who suffered terribly in the camps.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/12/trumps-israel-ambassador-likens-left-wing-jews-to-kapos.html
You're correct that I don't know you, and doubt I ever would have - self-righteous narcissists aren't my cup of tea. Look at you proudly marching yourself to the camps with the Jews you hate! How precious, I can already see you making your noble last speech to the evil Nazis as you condemn everyone you're supposedly dying for. You're a threat to nobody of consequence. And yeah, there's your proof, your "progressive Jewish friends" have told you about the Right-Wing scumbag lawyer Trump named as Ambassador who thinks Liberal Jews are "kapos"? LOL. That's one instance by the sort of person who knows Donnie Diapers well enough to be named Ambassador to Israel and nothing at all like you said in your original post.
Just to check your statement, I put your name as the author in the search function and checked whether there had been any posts about Sudan, Myanmar, Nagorno-Karabakh, Eritrea, Syria, Nigeria. Nope! Israel though gets 34 posts. Save your BS for your lentil-weaving "friends". Ever wonder why they're all so temporary? It's because you eventually find something incriminating from their background and that's it, they're off the list.
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8 minutes ago, ozimoron said:On the contary we know exactly how zionists think regardless of theirs or our own nationality.
Says the guy who thinks Zionism is a Far Right movement. Surprised you're still here after the whooping you've been getting on this thread for your fact- and logic-free assertions of racism.
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15 minutes ago, ozimoron said:Yeah, l I despise zionists.
I am not conflating anything with anybody. Zionism is not religious sect of Judaism, it is a far right nationalist political movement.
BTW, if you want to understand why people keep insulting you and calling you out, one of the reasons is that you make assertions, we challenge them with well-referenced posts that carefully point out the facts of the matter and how you're wrong, and you then IGNORE EVERYTHING THAT IS WRITTEN AND POST SOME OTHER STUFF THAT IS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION. I notice that you complain about the same things to the Right-wing posters on other threads, but can't stop yourself from doing it.
Just a reminder - I called you a liar, and specifically pointed out 3 lies to you. You responded by attempting to claim one of the lies as truth. I pointed out that this was not a rebuttal and was incorrect, and that you had just made yet another assertion that was a lie.
Your response to that is "yeah, I despise zionists and Zionism is not a religious sect". Who was talking about that? Nobody. And it by the way contains YET ANOTHER LIE! Zionism was NOT a far right political movement, it was apolitical and included Jews who were Right, Left and everywhere in-between. Can you not write a single sentence that is correct? Why don't you read some factual references before you splatter your nonsense all over TV?My response to you is that you are a liar, as proven by the three lies you wrote that you have not refuted, and you are continuing to do so.
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5 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:The many thousands Jewish Bloc on the regular marches begs to differ, but under this twisted hyperbole they are probably regarded as kapos. But all racism against anybody based on their race is wrong. Period.
https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/jew-means-always-oppressed-never-oppressors/
It's always heartwarming to observe non-Jews telling us what we think about our fellow Jews. You thought maybe we were all waking up to our morning coffee and instructions from Big Zion about what we were supposed to think and do today?
GFY with your "kapos". I refer to my previous posts about the clear anti-semitism that is displayed by the egregious conflation of Jews and Nazis. Congrats, you're joining some fine company on this site. You know nothing about what we think.
Perhaps you're surprised that I too despise Netanyahu and his Far Right minions? Religious nuts like Hamas. And I wouldn't put anything past those people in terms of doing illegal things or committing war crimes. And I'm all for there being a process by which they and Sinwar and his minions all go up for trial and face the consequences including hanging. Hell, I'll pull the lever. But that doesn't mean that Israel doesn't have the right to defend their country and people from the attempts of their neighbours to kill them. Israel IS a democracy unlike most of their neighbours and unlike the Palestinians. There are many Israelis opposed to what's happening in Gaza and if a different government had been voted in, I don't think this would have happened at all. I also know that if Russia and Ukraine weren't in a war, this also wouldn't have happened. Probably the thing that frustrates me the most about this conflict is that there's so so much stooopid going on in the commentary that it's maddening to even begin discussing it. And of course, it brings all the blatant and many of the casual anti-semites out of the woodwork.If I had observed a similar fervor for justice from so many of these anti-Israeli keyboard warriors when it came to the dozens of coincident other international conflicts and inter-religious/inter-cultural wars and violence I might have more sympathy. But they only care about Israel for some reason. Just can't put my finger on what it is about Israel that makes them so different.
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11 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:
You calling me racist doesn't make it so. I will go to bed tonight, like every other night, confident in my personal integrity. I am also confident that one day your thinking will be seen to be on the wrong side of history, and that people of all races and religions will look back at the horrors of what's currently happening in Israel with aghast bewilderment that so many, seemingly, good people at best did nothing.
You're correct, my calling you a racist is simply the opinion of one person.
The EC on the other hand making official statements on its website about what constitutes anti-semitism is the opinion of a large body of serious people including lawyers from a number of different countries and backgrounds and who take these things very seriously. THEY are the ones who think what you wrote is Anti-Semitic and have published explicitly on their website why that's the case. That you have read it and continue to hold that opinion tells everyone that you, in fact, are an Anti-Semite. So if you sleep happily with that, it just tells us that you're deeply flawed and should seek therapy. I do hope that one day you and your ilk are exposed for your hate and that you experience a reasonably degree of personal discomfort and consequence as a result.
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1 minute ago, ozimoron said:
Be on firmer footing before calling me a iiar.
Israel does not accept that the court has jurisdiction over its control of the West Bank
However, the ICJ, the UN's top legal organ, will only be able to issue an advisory opinion since the case was brought as a referral from the UN General Assembly. Israel does not accept that the court has jurisdiction over its control of the West Bank
You wish to debate that you wrote "refusing to recognize or be held accountable by a world court"?
If that was so, why did they send a team to the World Court to testify in the case? Would you send a team to present a case to a court you don't recognize? Have you presented any evidence that "Israel does not accept that the court has jurisdiction over its control of the West Bank." I didn't see it. As far as I can tell, the ICJ is NOT deciding whether Israel can have control over the West Bank. So how could Israel "not accept that"? You don't seem to understand that when you write things down and present them as fact, that people will check those statements out and if they were simply made up on the spot by you making a reference-free assertion, we're going to find that out and point out that you're lying. As I did. As you've once again FAILED to provide any evidence against.
If you're not a liar, then why have you only provided an attempt to explain one of the three lies I pointed out? Do you think that only having 2 lies in a 3-sentence post makes you something less of a liar? And your attempt to rebut the lie was a failure too. You're just spouting hate while pounding the keyboard angrily.
You still are conflating non-Israeli Jews with Israelis. None of the people in this news story were identified as an Israeli.
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8 minutes ago, ozimoron said:I wouldn't interrogate anybody. You can't grasp that a person was putting up hostage posters in a country which is very angry about the fact that his own country is carrying out acts of genocide while refusing to recognize or be held accountable by a world court. I find it completely unsurprising that such a person gets abuse and then his apologists all trot out the antisemite card to duck any discussion about whether such actions are either appropriate or smart.
You can't write a single post without errors or lies.
The person putting up the hostage posters was not an Israeli. Israel attended the World Court hearing and made their case. The case has not been decided yet. Israel have never declared that they don't recognize the World Court. These are lies. You can't even write a 3 sentence post without 3 lies.You are unsurprised that a woman stapling posters to a wall about innocents being kidnapped is assaulted by a man for that and that others find this to be, well, assault, and anti-semitic?
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4 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:To be clear, can I declare my belief that the Israeli government has a long standing history of acting like an unspecified reprehensible historic government without fear of being called out for it?
Are you able to comprehend English? Did you click on the EC link? Do you understand whom the EC represents?
To be perfectly clear, you can declare whatever belief you wish to, within the confines of the Forum rules. This obviously includes making racist or anti-semitic statements, although sometimes they're also removed by the moderators if they're considered too over-the-top.As to you being called out for it, when you make reprehensible statements that are racist, you should always be called out on it. It doesn't matter whether you're being offensive to Jews, Muslims, women, or whomever else you are trying to beat down. So fill your boots! You must be very proud to hold such antediluvian opinions, there's clearly a cabal of other like-minded individuals here for you to make congress with. Y'all should go to a Beer Hall together.
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4 minutes ago, Will B Good said:‘Britain feels like Nazi Germany’: The Jewish people wanting to flee the UK as antisemitism..........
You have to wonder ......if Britain feels like Nazi Germany, what hell does the Gaza strip feel like?
So when someone points out that the EC specifically defines comparisons of Israel and Nazi Germany as anti-semitic, and you then make a post afterwards on the same page that makes that comparison, what does that make you?
No need to respond, I personally like it when racists out themselves as the internet is a marvelous thing when it comes to recording regretful commentary. I think anonymity may not be guaranteed forever, so it's always my hope that these things come back to bite the people who write them.
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1 minute ago, RuamRudy said:
What others define it as doesn't take away from my point. Except in this case, apparently - if it walks like a duck and squawks like duck, just don't call it out or you will be demonized.
For the record, Jew, Muslim, Christian or jedi, I couldn't care less what sky fairy you believe in. If you are a decent person then I have no truck with you. If you behave like a despot then I will call it as I see it.
Yes, when multi-lateral organizations who carefully consider these issues and officially and explicitly state what constitutes racism, it DOES TAKE AWAY FROM YOUR POINT. It essentially says "RuamRudy, you're actually saying reprehensible stuff that is racist and so common amongst racists that we had to publish this sort of thing just so that you would be able to see that what you're saying is racist and unacceptable." So okay, you accept that you're a racist. Perhaps you should dress accordingly as per this discussion, I'd suggest Hugo Boss as your design beacon.
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Just now, ozimoron said:Nope,. Right now, if you're Jewish in a foreign country people naturally want you to declare where you stand. If you carry out overtly activist zioniist activities you are going to expect push back and can't pull the wilting violet act.
Who was carrying out overtly activist Zionist activities? The ones putting up posters about innocent kidnapped civilians? Those people? You're not allowed to do that?
I can't wait to hear your opinion about the hostages. They're guilty I guess of being both Israelis AND Jews. So they're not really hostages, they're prisoners of war, amirite? Even the kids.Now tell me again about the people on the train. They were Jewish in a foreign country? They weren't JEWISH BRITS? They were "overtly activist zioniist (sic)"?
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3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:I asked for facts about what happened on the train and got crickets. I was openly skeptical that this was a random attack based on some trivial aspect of dress which identified him as Jewish. I don't believe it ever happened, if for no other reason that that no substantiation was ever offered. On a broader horizon I find anecdotes offered as evidence to be offensive in general.
Oh, I see, you expected that there would have been witnesses to the London train incident here on ThaiVisa and were just asking for clarification since this was such an implausible event? Oh, well, silly me! I thought you were just spouting made-up stories that happened to be anti-semitic like pretty much any post of yours that mentions anything to do with Israel.
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8 minutes ago, ThaiFelix said:Exactly right! The anti Israel feelings at the moment are quite understandable considering their inhumane treatment of the Palestinians for so long and now the indiscriminate boimbing and genocide being carried out under the absurd excuse of self defence. However while I do have sympathy for Jews outside of the middle east as they could be considered innocent of these crimes against humanity rhere is of course the fact these jews are also supporting Israels actions of genocide by not doing anything or by supporting Israel financialy as many do.
Just as somebody said earlier, antisemitism does not develop in a vacuum. If there is an increase in antisemitism of late it can only be blamed on the abominable behaviour of Israel and its leaders in its premeditated murder of 10's of thousands of innocent women and children. Its also inconceivable that Israelis and Palestinians can ever live harmoniously in close proximity to each other after the brutal treatment handed out by the Israelis over the decades. Such treatment only festers resentment for generations just as I believe the Jew's "never again" behaviour against the Palestinians evolves from their treatment under the Nazis. . I hope for your sake there isnt a judgement day!
Here's another one - if you're Jewish, you're partially responsible for Israel and therefore anything Israel does means it's fair game to go after Jews. This is a definition of racism. By the way, refer to my post above which has a link to the definitions of what constitutes Anti-Semtism. You'll be interested to see that you have achieved it in your post! Must be a very proud day for you.
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