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This has to be the strangest thread I have read in a long time. Pretty much just trolling. I suggest if you want to call your extension of stay as "a retirement visa"...then best notify the Thai Embassy and the Thai Immigration Offices. They can rewrite all the terminology to suit your reluctance to admit that you are wrong.
Next time you get a lady..call her a boy...as well. Or if you like boys...call her a lady. Then...if all else fails, do the same thing you are doing when mixing terminology for visa and the seperate "extension of stay". Combine the two different terms and nobody knows what you have.
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Not exactly. You can get a 90 day O visa in Thailand if used as the first step towards a retirement extension.Visas are given out at Embassies/consulates. Extensions are done at immigration. If you call your extension a "visa" then you are confusing many people...who want to get this nasty business done correctly...at the right place.
It is not that people are trying to be "Mr. Know it all"....rather it is lazy posters implying that they do not need an extension of stay, by referring to a non existant "One year retirement visa".
Immigration does not give 90 day O visas. Consulates and Embassies do that.
Immigration gives the one year extensions.
You are assuming that I said you must leave Thailand....to get a visa...which I did not. Please reread what I wrote.
I am aware of the one exception that you can "Convert" a tourist visa to a 90 day O in Bangkok.... now we are talking about a conversion of a visa that you got in a consulate outside the country...that being done in Bangkok (an exception but remember..you are converting a visa that you already have) I do understand that is done at Immigration in Bangkok
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Not exactly. You can get a 90 day O visa in Thailand if used as the first step towards a retirement extension.Visas are given out at Embassies/consulates. Extensions are done at immigration. If you call your extension a "visa" then you are confusing many people...who want to get this nasty business done correctly...at the right place.
It is not that people are trying to be "Mr. Know it all"....rather it is lazy posters implying that they do not need an extension of stay, by referring to a non existant "One year retirement visa".
Immigration does not give 90 day O visas. Consulates and Embassies do that.
Immigration gives the one year extensions.
You are assuming that I said you must leave Thailand....to get a visa...which I did not. Please reread what I wrote.
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Visas are given out at Embassies/consulates. Extensions are done at immigration. If you call your extension a "visa" then you are confusing many people...who want to get this nasty business done correctly...at the right place.
It is not that people are trying to be "Mr. Know it all"....rather it is lazy posters implying that they do not need an extension of stay, by referring to a non existant "One year retirement visa".
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Many have friends or relatives overseas, through work or marriage. It does not impress as it used to.
We are not unique. Just one out of a million tourists.
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I assume you are under 50
I turn 50 in January, so I will get this 2 month TR Visa extended for a further 30 days at Immigration, then get one more TR Visa after that before applying for a 12 month Retirement Visa
Where.will you apply for the "Retirement Visa" ?
Retirement visa? or one year extension on a non immigrant visa.. ??
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How much did you give the officer? It probably was a fraction of what you would have paid in your home country. People don't wear helmets over here because they think that they will get away with it, you wouldn't dream of going helmetless back home. If you don't want to be fined, wear an helmet.
Back home in the States, people get stopped for tail lights out, speeding, no helmet, etc...etc. The fines you pay there are outrageously high, and points are docked against your license. Insurance may also go up. In Thailand, you pay 200 to 500 each time you get stopped, for whatever. All my fines together, this year, amount to less than 500 baht....and no court required, no mailing in tickets, no threats of revoking license. I like it here.
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Go ahead and report that officer directly to his supervisors. Most likely, he is not sharing the tea money up the chain of command...and will probably get promptly punished.
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No matter what you hear....too many land border crossings, especially consecutive...is not the way to go. My first two years in Thailand, I was foolish enough to think it was a viable way of life. I enjoyed the freedom of crossing borders, and mistakenly thought thai immigration was impressed that I always came back to thailand. Guess what? They were not very impressed at all. All that traveling wore me out....and I just wanted to settle down. Very nice to have a proper visa (with extension). However, I now find myself tied in place. A household full of expensive stuff, 2 motorbikes a car and truck. All the things I did not want, when I first arrived...for the sheer reason of feeling free. It was nice to just throw everything I owned into a backpack and computer bag, check out of my accomodations, and head to a new adventure and never look back. All changed now...for better or worse.
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After a few days in PP, you will want to leave. Take a 3 hour ride to Sihanoukville. I found that place very relaxing, and much more entertaining. Go to the Golden Lions Circle and turn left to Orcheteul Beach. (Get off the tuk tuk about one kilometer down and walk) There are some very good budget hotels (with pool) and guesthouses there. I liked hanging out on the beach at night...lots of activity going on. Fireworks, tables on the beach, music.... etc. Phnom Penh was good for the museum and walking by the river...not much else.
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OMG...
I am thinking that the guy who owes money is the same one I met there in Phuket before. He befriends people who have connections with others people that have good money. The guy I am thinking of has a yahoo id of burger something...like burgerkingman..or similar. He lived in the Philippines and owes 2000 to one of my best friends. In fact, he destroyed my credibility with my friend, as I vouched for his honest. He brags about his ability to "trade up". His story is that his father traded an old shotgun for something else. Then through a series of trade ups, his father would eventually end up with a brand new car. Jack lived in Chiang Mai, and owes money here too. He is unemployed..and last time I seen him, he was in Krabi. He told me he was moving to Hawaii. Avoid this man at all costs...he is a loser.
I think he is about 60...and very fat. An excellent talker....
Bottom line...he never pays back. Never. Money gone forever. He pretty much told me my friend could afford to lose 2000 dollars.
Let me say this...he gets involved with locals that deal drugs.. stay away.
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As mentioned earlier, there will be officers/locations who may enforce current regulations more aggressively. Rules will not change, but longer lines and requests for additional supporting evidence may increase.
On a positive note, multi-entry tourist visas may become more available. I also see that the 90 day reporting (online) is a snap, and has made life so much easier.
If there were to be any recommendations on visa issues, Immigration should focus more on short term visa holders. Expats that lived here for several years..and who are getting up in age, should be excluded from excessive scrutiny. I think we are not generally under suspicion of illegal activities, for the most part. Five years of observing proper reporting and completing extensions without incidents should be considered a "probationary period". I would recommend a permanent residency card issued..after that point, with only annual reporting.
I agree with most of your post except for the following "I also see that the 90 day reporting (online) is a snap, and has made life so much easier." and no it is not a snap for most of us and has not made our life easier. Once you get a new passport or have entered prior to 2013 your SOL. I just did my visa extension last week and you would think my new passport number and my 2010 arrival date would update my on file stats so I can report online but it does not. They should have tested this system thoroughly before putting it online. They should also have made the online queue system bullet proof before putting it online as well. As the 10 slots were mostly filled by 12.05 am it was obvious that more queue slots would be needed but closing of the queue system was really a big step backward. It de-streamlined the process and put us back in the horse and buggy area of visa extension reporting. I have heard a rumor from a good source that we are stuck with the Promenada office in Chiang Mai contrary to all the Immigration posturing and grandstanding promises of a new structure at the airport location. My source tells me "no funding from Bangkok" Guess all our "donations" here are a one way street. Guess the general coffers are running low. My source tells me that Immigration has "signed" a long term lease with the plaza management. Again rumors but from a reliable source so lets see what the days ahead bring.
Ok..
I will try to correct my post to read... for myself, 90 day online reporting has been a snap. For others, not necessarily true. I lucked out...and do hope I can continue, from now on, to do my reporting online.
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As mentioned earlier, there will be officers/locations who may enforce current regulations more aggressively. Rules will not change, but longer lines and requests for additional supporting evidence may increase.
On a positive note, multi-entry tourist visas may become more available. I also see that the 90 day reporting (online) is a snap, and has made life so much easier.
If there were to be any recommendations on visa issues, Immigration should focus more on short term visa holders. Expats that lived here for several years..and who are getting up in age, should be excluded from excessive scrutiny. I think we are not generally under suspicion of illegal activities, for the most part. Five years of observing proper reporting and completing extensions without incidents should be considered a "probationary period". I would recommend a permanent residency card issued..after that point, with only annual reporting.
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Build a chinese karaoke bar between the tree and your house.
And turn up the speakers.
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Get some tree snakes...they love eggs.
Snakes are much quieter, and you can trust them.
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I would say that this is rather a niggardly approach to teaching....
it should be banned.
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Guessing your looking for something more exotic....
For me...... I just buy coffee beans, grind them, and then make simple black coffee in my coffee maker.
Similar to this for 450 Baht
My favorite time of the day...5am..
I go down to the kitchen, grind up the beans, and brew up a good cup of coffee.
I suppose it has to do with the quaintness of it all. The aroma from the grinding, and the dripping of the coffee, along with the smell.
I don't do espresso, but I like a mocha cappuccino as a treat. Does not justify investing 800 dollars or more. A relative bought one of those expensive machines, and it broke down within weeks. (she was operating a coffee/smoothie shop)
One thing I did learn....make sure you can unscrew your coffee machine (when warrantee goes out) so you can clean out the dripping apparatus. Even in the cheap ones. The last one I had was a rubicks cube with lock screws that had impossible heads on the screws, that no screwdriver could remove. My dripping tube (a tiny, plastic straw like device, was clogged. I broke the whole shell out of frustration.
You must be able to get in there and clean.... Make that a key feature.
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Local weather is vastly different than global climate. The scientific consensus...by those most qualified to have a say on the subject, like climatologists who actually make a living studying and analyzing global climate...agree with about a 97% majority that the earth (as a whole) is warming at an unusually rapid rate.
When I was in elementary school back in the 1950's, the scientific consensus was still that the continents did not move. They were fixed in place. It didn't become accepted until the 1960's.
The very few scientists that argued against that.... like Alfred Wegener...were laughed at and ignored...
Wegener was the scientist early in the 20th century that put forth the idea of Continental Drift leading to Plate Tectonics. Wegener and his few supporters were laughed out of the lecture halls... and were ridiculed and ignored by the established scientific institutions and community
... Wegener found it next to impossible to even get published. No respectable science publication wanted anything to do with him.
Sadly, Wegener never lived to see the world agree that he was indeed correct .... he died long before he was vindicated.....proven right. Today... virtually every scientist agrees that we have continental drift/plate tectonics and that the continents move around the surface of the planet.
So now today the "consensus" is that that we are warming the planet to dangerous levels.... (How many people realize we are still in an Ice Age ? No... don't confuse Glacial Periods like 25,000 years ago to Ice Ages. )
Science done by consensus has the ability to be badly mistaken...
In Europe... the scientific consensus also used to be the the Sun revolved around the Earth..... until Galileo came along...
Our warming today is nothing to be concerned about. Climate always changes on this planet. Sometimes fast... sometimes slow.... sometime a little... sometimes a lot.
We just came out of the Little Ice Age approx. 1850...... and warming should be expected.. 0.85 degree C between 1880 - 2012 (I.P.C.C.) is well within the normal range of variability...
Ever wonder why the level of biodiversity on this planet increases as you go from the poles to the tropics ? It's because life prefers warmth and moisture.
It's the same reason why people that can afford it move to the hot tropics... and not to the Arctic Islands...
Quote by Paul Watson, a founder of Greenpeace: "It doesn't matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true."
Quote by Jim Sibbison, environmental journalist, former public relations official for the Environmental Protection Agency: "We routinely wrote scare stories...Our press reports were more or less true...We were out to whip the public into a frenzy about the environment."
Quote by emeritus professor Daniel Botkin: "The only way to get our society to truly change is to frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe."
Quote by Ottmar Edenhoffer, high level UN-IPCC official: "We redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy...Basically it's a big mistake to discuss climate policy separately from the major themes of globalization...One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore."
Quote by Louis Proyect, Columbia University: “The answer to global warming is in the abolition of private property and production for human need. A socialist world would place an enormous priority on alternative energy sources. This is what ecologically-minded socialists have been exploring for quite some time now.”
Quote by Walden Bello, leftist and founding director of Focus on the Global South: "However it is achieved, a thorough reorganisation of production, consumption and distribution will be the end result of humanity's response to the climate emergency and the broader environmental crisis."
Quote by UK's Keith Farnish, environmental writer, philosopher and activist: "The only way to prevent global ecological collapse and thus ensure the survival of humanity is to rid the world of Industrial Civilization...Unloading essentially means the removal of an existing burden: for instance, removing grazing domesticated animals, razing cities to the ground, blowing up dams and switching off the greenhouse gas emissions machine."
http://www.c3headlines.com/global-warming-quotes-climate-change-quotes.html
Had to smile at the point made about how the density of living creatures becomes more predominate as you move towards the equator. The only life that increases as you spread to the poles are canadians and penguins. Which makes me wonder.
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Chilling new evidence from the Atlantic Ocean is raising fears that western Europe could soon be gripped by a mini ice age.Global warming is slowing down the ocean current that carries warm waters from the tropics to the North Atlantic, scientists say.
hottest july recorded so far...or at least close.
i think the world is heating up...for now. I know in Chiang Mai it is.
In the last 4.6 billion years??? hmmmmm I think not
"On Record" Means since records have been kept.
Dinosaurs did not keep records.
Most of us would just consider weather reporting/recording only goes back less than a hundred years. I am not including the last ice age, or the big bang.
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Chilling new evidence from the Atlantic Ocean is raising fears that western Europe could soon be gripped by a mini ice age.Global warming is slowing down the ocean current that carries warm waters from the tropics to the North Atlantic, scientists say.
hottest july recorded so far...or at least close.
i think the world is heating up...for now. I know in Chiang Mai it is.
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I would say Udon Immigration is a fine example of what proper management/funding/staffing can do.
It is almost a pleasure to go there.
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strangest thing...damn bars on the window..but a swift kick by the doorknob gains immediate entry (splinters the door jam near the lock).
Most locks are crap here. The doors in most houses in my subdivision are reinforced with cardboard...yes....cardboard!!!
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Making friends here is tough, even when you have money.
In your situation..it is even harder.
Thailand is obviously not where you want to be, if you have nothing.
Hang out at Koh Chang Island. Lots of backpacker budget accomodations near Lonely Beach.
At least the scenery is nice. You might ask simple accomodations at a few of the lower end bungalows.
You cannot legally work, but there might be something you could do on the sly....for room and board.
Pretty empty now. I would not stay in a place like Bangkok..with no money.
As I mentioned earlier...after a matter of time..you might run into somebody with a boat...passing through.
Word of mouth, and an honest reputation, might get you passage out of the area,...and you might even get a small salary.
It was easy for me to chat with people at some of those ..out of the way, bungalow type places. I backpacked for a year (I was sandbagging it...I actually have a decent retirement income). I found Koh Chang very laid back and good for getting my head screwed on straight. Lonely beach was pretty empty in September...and I had no problem talking with some of the long staying, foreign business people there. I noticed (at that time) a low presence of immigration people/police...but now it might be different.
Like I said....you could actually run into some kind of positive situation there..which is what you need.
As others said...no handouts available..but perhaps food and accomodation for some ("illegal") work.
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Heres my advice if thats all you are asking for. Try every embassy in Bangkok not just your countries. Use the shot gun approach. It appears you have internet so email any and everyone you know from your past in your home country and tell them your situation and ask for help. I mean everyone,friends,employers,banks anyone and everyone. Find a chat room in your home country and get on. The longer you wait the harde it will be when money is gone.
shot gun approach at the embassy....not a good choice of words. I know what you mean, though.
Thai ladies mentality changed alot, and more materialistic ? I feel disappointed
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Somethings wrong with that story. It would take several notices and collection attempts. You actually sound like you broke the law....tossing things out on the street and giving short notice.