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Yes, mine has my address in Thai and English on the back.

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You need proof of your address. The driving license is for that. As I said in a post above, this has been confirmed by the office in Bangkok which processes the application.

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Thank you. I didn't know that they were going up in price, though I'm not surprised that they are; I see that there is now a five pound charge just for having your email answered by the pissing Passport Office.

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Thanks. I don't seem to have any 'like' buttons (perhaps they've been murdered by my ad-blocker) so...'like'.

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In answer to my own question....last night, I wrote an email to the company which now does this on behalf of the Embassy, asking if a Thai driving license and a letter from my local Rajabhat asking me to do some work there would be sufficient. I fully expected never to hear back from them but to my amazement, this morning they replied saying that that was fine.

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I had a look to see if this had been answered already but I couldn't find anything appropriate so....has anyone recently renewed a UK passport in Bangkok and if so, what ID was accepted/acceptable? Was a Thai driving license sufficient? If not, what was? Thanks.

(Apologies if this is in the wrong sub-forum but it seemed the most appropriate.)
 

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This forum really is dogshɪt on toast, isn't it.

Is there any way to put News/We-Love-Fascists and the General/I'm-An-Educationally-Subnormal-Expat forums on ignore? If not, the meager attractions of reading the few occasionally interesting subforums are far from being sufficient to compensate for dealing with the repulsively stupid ɑrsewipes who dominate.

[Make Yingluck pay, PM told]

An analysis by fivethirtyeight shows that a coup, on average, costs 2.1% of GDP in the year it happens, 1.3% the year after and 0.2% the year after that. The World Bank's predictions for the Thai economy match this.

Perhaps Prayuth and the other members of the junta could reach into their mysteriously deep pockets and make up for this lose. Plus, of course, there's extra cost of the junta simply copying all the Thaksin/Yingluck 'populist' policies, opposition to which plays a significant role in their entirely non-existent claims to legitimacy. Though, that said, even the fantastic amounts of money which the junta has collectively stashed away is unlikely to be sufficient.

[Government wants lese majeste offenders to be sent home to face justice]

I have never heard of a big fish being charged with LM.

Depends what you mean by big fish but certainly the wikileaks revelations about Prem's and Anand's rather unflattering comments were not, for some strange reason, acted upon.

[Government wants lese majeste offenders to be sent home to face justice]

The real tragic thing about the whole LM circus is, that the King himself in a speech 7-8 years ago said, that he was not above critizism since he was human and made mistakes!!

That statement was of course completely ignored by Thai officialdom, since it didn't fit their agenda, which is to keep the subjects in their place.

The LM has nothing to do with the King, but is a very dangerous political tool, used over and over again to surpress people, who don't agree with the current (and previous) leadership!!

It's an argument I wanted to make but wasn't sure I could. Some politicians and yellow shirt leaders have ignored the King's requests. Isn't this LM?

He didn't make any requests and it's completely wrong to suggest that there is any kind of equivalence between the use of the LM laws by reds and yellows. The only notable yellow I can think of who has fallen victim to the law is Sondhi, who essentially got off. (Though I should add that it's true that the Yingluck administration hardly covered itself in glory in this regard. How much they can be blamed for this is debatable. Had they taken a strong stand, it's quite possible that this would simply have brought forward the coup, though since that happened anyway, they didn't really gain a lot by doing nothing.)

[Government wants lese majeste offenders to be sent home to face justice]

Something which is fundamentally wrong for me not just as an ex-pat here, but as a human being.

That's exactly right.

[Government wants lese majeste offenders to be sent home to face justice]

So now, you have achieved the amazing feat of having three kids with a Thai woman, you see yourself as a defender of all things Thai no matter how wrong, you now feel it's fine or almost a duty of anyone in the country to blindly agree with anything the unelected Junta want?

And despite that fact that millions and millions of Thais despise the General and everything he stands for. But perhaps that's their fault - they obviously should have been more careful in choosing their parents. And if they don't like it now, well they can move somewhere else, I guess. Oh, but then they'll have to come back to face trial for being extremists. Hmm. These fascists don't seem to be able to make their minds up on this one. Strange, being such sharp fellows and all.

[Government wants lese majeste offenders to be sent home to face justice]

So who are these extremists? Since you're so well integrated into Thai society and appear to approve wholeheartedly of the current witchhunt, you presumably know exactly who they are and what their crimes are.

Usually those charged under this law are insignificant people who have committed trivial offences.

As an example to show the more important people what could happen.

It's not about punishing extremists, it's about threatening opponents of the status quo, too powerful to be directly punished.

I read the blogs and Facebook groups so I know who the people are and what they have done. My question was directed at the idiot who thinks these people are extremists.

[Government wants lese majeste offenders to be sent home to face justice]

citizens do have reasonable amounts of freedoms here.

That depends what you mean by reasonable. Freedom House recently placed Thailand in the 'not free' category in regard to internet freedoms, which is below the level of both Burma and Cambodia. The country is still largely under martial law. There is no freedom at all of speech, assembly, or protest. Elections are a distant dream. Crimes of conscience are tried in secret in military courts with no appeal. Protesters against the government are threatened with rape. Unknown numbers have gone into exile. The list goes on. If that's your idea of 'reasonable' i would hate to live in a country which you thought was 'unreasonable'.

[Government wants lese majeste offenders to be sent home to face justice]

countries which support free speech don't have draconian LM laws.

The LM law is one of the most egregious violations of human rights in Thailand.

I have my own opinions regarding the human rights laws, that are human rights for whom?

In Britain for example where foreign criminals, rapists and murderers cannot be deported because it may contravene their so-called human rights, where the human rights laws can actually work against the benefits of the country and benefit more the perpetrators than the victims.

There is a difference between freedom of speech and the subversives that create politically motivated propaganda in order to disrupt and cause unrest to the stability of another country or their own countries that are in no doubt enemies of the state.

Thailand, although cannot be described as a democratic country in the true sense, is still a stable country with a relatively amount of freedom and does not need extremists and activists stirring up tensions against the system here that can be extremely damaging to Thailand as a whole.

I can see the prime minister`s point exactly.

So countries that have freedom of speech should deport Thai ex-pats to face court martial where they have little to know rights at all for simply expressing an opinion? You condone this?

The prime minister is explicitly meaning those that are the most extremist, could be classified as the enemies of Thailand.

I live in Thailand and my wife is Thai and my 3 children are all well integrated into Thai society, they are true patriotic Thai citizens. Therefore, considering that I am happy to live here and intend to remain and doing alright thank you with no ambitions to move anywhere else, I except the country for what it is and it`s values for the better and for the worse. If I were not able to do this and believed there is more freedoms elsewhere and the grass is greener over there rather than over here, than I would not stay.

For those that continue to stay in Thailand by their own choice either accept the laws and rulings of the powers that be and if they don`t and believe that justice, rights and democracy are better elsewhere are then hypocrites for continuing to stay here and not opting to move back home where their views will be acceptable and lifestyles more suited to them.

So who are these extremists? Since you're so well integrated into Thai society and appear to approve wholeheartedly of the current witchhunt, you presumably know exactly who they are and what their crimes are.

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the human rights laws can actually work against the benefits of the country

There's a clue in the name, you know; they are human rights, not country rights.

There is a difference between freedom of speech and the subversives that create politically motivated propaganda in order to disrupt and cause unrest to the stability of another country or their own countries that are in no doubt enemies of the state.

In respect of this thread, total and utter crap. I'm willing to bet you have no idea who the Thais are who have left the country and less knowledge about what they said or why.

[Government wants lese majeste offenders to be sent home to face justice]

My understanding is that the King is against this law being used in the way it is

That's not what he said. In 2005, he said that he could be criticized, not that he was was against the law. It's worth remembering that shortly after this speech, the number of people charged with LM increased enormously.

The politicians use this as a way to get at opponents to keep them quite.

It would be more accurate to say that it's used by the elite to silence those who pose (or may in the future pose) a threat to the status quo.

[Government wants lese majeste offenders to be sent home to face justice]

Speaking of rose what ever happened those Thais terrorizing her in the UK? The weird melted plastic looking high so girl and 'DJ Ken' (the guy that flashed a gun on camera while threatening her, and then went to spray paint a Thai flag on her house, turned out it was the wrong house, idiot)

I know he got arrested for that but did Rose press charges? Couple of absolute morons, the rest of the world aren't fanatical idiots like you and forcing your views on people.

Not sure what happened to the woman but that little maggot Ken got 200 hours of community service and a suspended sentence.

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Now I think about it, did the woman do anything or did she just drive around looking for Rose without success? I seem to remember that nothing came of her attempted assault but I can't be sure about that.

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The LM has nothing to do with the King,

That doesn't make sense. Something called lese majeste necessarily has everything to do with the King. And if he had really wanted to change the law, it would not have been difficult to state his desires clearly and unambiguously.

No, it makes sense, it has nothing to do with his person but with the institution itself, rather like saying, you can't complain about the prime minister, that would endanger democracy, it's just as stupid.

Nonsense read below.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/769792-notice-to-members-posting-in-thailand-news/

I cant see the reason for calling my post nonsense. If you insult the king or any member of the royal family,or any royal family in the world it is LM because you have insulted the institution itself. moderate your response, i don't agree would have sufficed.

So are you saying if we aussies expressed our opinion ions about our queen we can be arrested under thai law? If a thai wanted to say something about our queen we wouldn't care less either would she. Maybe we are a little less sensitive and don't cry as easily as thais. They need to grow a pair, harden up and catch up with the real world. Over sensitive little petals.

Yes, you can be arrested under Thai law:

The third group is insult against the Head of State of foreign countries or lèse-majesté. Insulting or threatening the King, Queen, Consort, Heir-apparent or Head of State of foreign countries (Section 133), which is an offence against the friendly relations with foreign states, is punishable by 1 to 7 years imprisonment or a fine of 2,000-140,000 baht, or both. The penalty for defaming, insulting or threatening the Thai Monarch, the Queen, Heir-apparent or Regent (Section 112) is imprisonment for a 3 of three to 15 years. Insulting or defaming a representative of a foreign state accredited to the Royal Court has the penalty of imprisonment for a term of 6 months to 15 years or a fine of 1,000-10,000 baht, or both.

Scary isn't it?

well there is probably about 2 million people in Aust who have snagged off at the queen of England, her corgis and big ears noddy. Better send the BIB over with warrants and extradition them.

I had thought that 133 didn't count as LM since it includes non-royals but Wikipedia says that LM includes insults, defamation, etc directed against the state, not just the state as embodied in the crown so I guess it does count after all (as would, presumably, 'crimes' against flags, the national anthem, etc.) I'm not sure that anyone has ever been charged under it, though. I had a quick look and couldn't find any, though that doesn't mean a great deal.

[Prayuth's '12 values' coming to LINE in sticker form]

22 million Thais using it at last count. Sounds like a lot do

not think it is frivolous and ridiculous.

I meant the stickers, not Line, which is obviously enormously popular here.

[Fallen Tree Narrowly Misses Prayuth's Car]

More evidence, as if it were needed, of the black magic plot against the General.

[Prayuth's '12 values' coming to LINE in sticker form]

To us with a western mindset this might sound frivolous and ridiculous

Trust me - a lot of Thais think it's frivolous and ridiculous, too.

[Prayuth's '12 values' coming to LINE in sticker form]

The virtual "stickers" will be made available on December 30 as a "New Year’s present" to the Thai people

Can I have the gift-wrapped dog turd instead? It sounds much better.

[Non Imm O - Extension of Stay - UK marriage certificate]

For a one year extension of stay at immigration your marriage will have to be registered here at an Amphoe to get a Kor Ror 22 marriage registry.

Our marriage isn't registered here - I've only ever used the British documents (translated and certified as you say).

[Government wants lese majeste offenders to be sent home to face justice]

If you insult the king or any member of the royal family,or any royal family in the world it is LM

No. 112 specifies the (current) King, Queen, Crown Prince and Regent. The courts have made some 'interesting' interpretations of that to extend the law back some way historically but that's a different thing.