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sweatalot

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  1. Let's start with my definition of religion
    religion is a group of persons or a body of beliefs that is making their followers believe or pretend to believe on a couple of axioms. First axiom is that there is a God, his name is so-and-so and he wants you to do this and that otherwise you will be punished .  These axioms are given by  people with a high position in that religious body or people who are declared holy. Or they have been that way all the time and  still have to be followed.

     

    And then there are individuals who don't believe that religious stuff because they cannot experience it.

    They tried to find or they found their truth by experience and thus they know.
    They don't need anybody or any law to tell them what God is and what they have to do all to believe. They don't need a mediator.

    They know who they are and so they know God. They are far from believing that there is some higher being or God outside of them.

    They know there's no higher being outside of them that wants its rules to be followed and will punish if they don't.

    This way they are close to a life that is happy and peaceful without illusions. 
     

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  2. About God and spirituality it all boils down to experience.

     

    This stuff is not something that can be proven objectivley.

    But what you experience that's what you experience.

    And this is your  proof. You do not need to prove it to anybody.

     

    And that is truth. Your truth. (where is the law that says there is only one truth?)

    And I mean experience. Not believing what others (or religions) tell you to believe.

     

    You don't care what believers of any religion or of the "science religion" tell you. It does not touch you when they ridicule you. Because you know. And they don't. They are just one of those religions. The name of their god is: "there is no god except it can be proven objectively" They don't have headache - unless it is scientifically proven.

     

    It is not about objectivity. It is about experience. Like our lives. You have no idea about God unless you find out who You are

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  3. 5 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

    LONG post detailing a very common and well known effect...placebo. No one is saying that people can't believe whatever nonsense they choose and that it may even provide some benefit or comfort. HOWEVER...the problems start when they start legislating and ramming their beliefs down everyone's throats. Taking rights away from others, discriminating against others and getting preferential treatment from the government. Christians and Muslims use this tactic ad nauseum...and any placebo effect is ineffective against pushing back. That's where facts, evidence, and real education must be applied. Science to combat the opium of the masses. 

     

     

    not often that I agree with you. But this time I do. But the religons are not God. And the harm they do is not done by God

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    45 minutes ago, VincentRJ said:

     

    The effects of the placebo and nocebo are fundamental to all beliefs, whether  the belief is a conventional religion, or a belief that the sun will rise tomorrow as it has always done during the history of the planet.

    This just shows the power of belief. The belief in the power of some object or even fantasy works even if the object or fantasy has no power or does not exist.

     

    This was meant in a previous post of mine:

    "We are creating our world. The religious create the god whom they deserve. The atheists create their godless world. The fearful create a dangerous world. The science believers create a logical and obsessive world.  The fearless, happy and honest people (with a mind like children) create heaven on earth for themselves. The churches created hell.

    But who the hell created Thai Visa? "

     

     

    The faith of religious people that their "god" can help them - can actually help them.

    Abuse by "prophets" or churches who pretend to speak in the name of a supreme being might do harm - and did. Just to mention religious war and hate.

     

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  5. 3 hours ago, mauGR1 said:

     

     

    7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

    The other questions that come to mind are, if there is a God, where did God come from, and if there isn't, where did the universe come from, and don't try to tell me it just came into existence from nothing?

    Yes, It came into existence from nothing

    (nothingness = emptiness)

    emptiness is everywhere, underlying everything that is

    You can take away everything or imagine to do so -but you cannot take away emptiness

    emptiness is the potential to be everything.

    Understand if you can

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  6. On 5/2/2019 at 11:20 AM, JTXR said:

    The US embassy affidavit has always been just a certification of the US citizen's signature, never a certification of income. 

    using this as a document to confirm something else than that your signature is your signature is just defrauding Thai immigration.

     

    If it worked for so long this shows that they did not understand the letter. Why did they not request a translation by a confimed translator? Their mistake

     

    Seems now they learn (at least some of them) to read and understand what they read.

     

    No wonder when they are getting tough. And right so.

    Now we all have to suffer from this mass abuse.


  7. I like the philosophy of Neville Goddard. He says God exists. But he/she is not a being outside of us, separated from us. We are not subordinate beings that depend on the mercy of some big Zampanoo.

    God is our consciousness, our awareness. He is inside us. He is us.

    (In the following I only use "he" for simplicity - but I don't think God - our consciousness of being - has a gender)

     

    And God can be experienced in meditation. In  Buddhist or Hindu meditation (or others as well) you experience a feeling that the world, space, matter, our normal consciousness is just an illusion. But if all that is gone - there is still  the consciousness that you exist, that you are "I am". And that is God. And God can imagine that he his John Smith or Jennifer MIller - or whoever

     

    "I am" is God. This is written in the bible, a book written by wise men to help us be free from suffering. (Not to be understood as a book of history, the "word of God" . Moses asked God what is your name? The answer: my name is  "I am"

     

    We experience our world in consciousness. If we are not conscious then there is no world for us.

     

    But if we are conscious we experience what we imagine.

    Our life, the world is an illusion, the product and experience of our imagination.  

     

    If I can experience this than it is true for me. If other people don't experience this - their choice. No impact on my experience. 

     

    Their reality is what they imagine, not an absolute reality that exists for everybody

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  8. On 4/24/2019 at 8:08 AM, transam said:

    Before asking: does God exist - and what does he/she do or want from us? we should ask another more elementary question: -  who is asking this question? - or what am I ? My body? the brain? thoughts? when did I begin existing? can  I be sure "I" am gone when the body is dead? Why don't I remember the begin of my life?

     

    And about existence: when you dream do you know that you are dreaming? And when you are not dreaming - can you be sure that you are not dreaming? Really? There are questions that science has no answer for. And there are observations in quantum mechanics that must be accepted but cannot be understood by our way of logic. 

     

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  9. On 4/24/2019 at 1:00 PM, Rama said:

    you're just the exact person immigration is targeting, someone who is gaming the system - you're living in bkk - you're not 'traveling' - have a lease agreement, etc., you're not a tourist! get a real visa!

    I wonder why so many long stayers on the wrong visa (obviously not aware that they are cheating) believe they have a right to be admitted to Thailand.

    They should try to enforce their right to be allowed to stay in  China or NK or, or ...

     

    He should know that he has not legal right to be allowed to enter the country. If he don't play to their rules he has to accept what IOs decide.

     

    He should check how foreign long stayers on Tourist visa are treated in his humane and high morality country

     

    The lawless is him - not Thai Immigration.

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  10. 24 minutes ago, OmegaRacer said:

    I understand what you're saying and I see why you would think the whole "system" is unfair.

     

    It depends on the point of view I think. If you consider humans to be victims of circumstances, of their environment where they randomly happen to grow up, of the social and financial status of their families and more importantly, victims of the limited time they are allowed to exist.....then your reasoning is very justified.

    On the other hand, if we assume we have a soul or eternal consciousness that is only bound by time for a very short period while incarnated, then we gain a much wider perspective of our life (or lives).

    Like Shakespeare said "All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players: they have their exits and their entrances; and one man in his time plays many parts, his acts being seven ages."

    We are like actors who chose to play a role for a limited time on earth, forgetting that we are actors. When the curtain falls, we awaken from the dream. We may have played the roles of enemies on stage, but behind it, we turn back to be best friends, because we know it was all a play. 
    All the suffering, the struggles and heartaches will drop away just like a nightmare dissolves quickly upon waking up.

    You say life is dangerous, it sure is. But it's also amazingly beautiful, full of adventures and things to learn.
    You say there are terrible people out there, absolutely true. But the vast majority of people are just like you and me, struggling to live this life the best way we can, with our ups and downs, stumbling sometimes, making mistakes, but still going forward.

    You have the free choice to change your point of view if you want to. Isn't that amazing?

    one thing to believe this or something similar

    another thing to experience it

    - only then can you really be free

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