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  1. 2 hours ago, StevieAus said:

    You really must learn to read the post before you reply I never said I didn't check I said I have never had a problem

    Anyhow you win the prize for having the most problems


    I'm seeking solutions to stickler issues.  I also also give advice which may help others avoid problems.  You seem to be just sitting back and saying, "''never had a problem."


    It's akin to a person who has an allergy and is seeking assistance.  Another person says, "I don't have an allergy like that, so you're just making problems for yourself."

  2. 52 minutes ago, StevieAus said:

    Never had a problem

    I assume you're saying you've never had a problem with Thai Imm.  That's great for you.


    I have probably dealt with Thai Imm more than you, and over the past 20 yrs, there have been times when I've caught them making mistakes.  Usually, those mistakes are unwitting (and fixed right away), but sometimes the mistakes are conscious. I could get into detail, if you want.


    I have also dealt with Thai lawyers who have made mistakes, but that's another topic.


    All in all, it's always good to check your new passport rubber stamps as soon as they're given.  If you trust Thai Imm officials to such an extent - to never check or question what they do or say, .....then you have a different modus operandi than I, and problems could ensue.



  3. 45 minutes ago, StevieAus said:

    Never had a problem

    Good for you.  Are you saying you never had a problem trying to get a VIP 'day-pass' or you never tried getting one, or....?


    I'm saying the VIP pass was available most of the time (except when Thai gov't had conniption fits about something a Burmese official said) ....up until about 5 yrs ago.  I realize I said '7 yrs ago' in an earlier post, but I think it was closer to 5. 


    It's been a problem for many farang, ....except Chinese tourists who are given waivers by Thai Imm.   I know first hand, as I've spoken with many farang who are annoyed with Thai Imm changing its policy.  The only 2 reasons Thai officials have given for constricting the policy are:


    >>>  Why you go shopping in Tachilek?  We have same in Mae Sai. and,


    >>>  Bangkok says so (and of course, officials outside of Bkk can never question decisions made in Bkk).



  4. 3 hours ago, StevieAus said:

    I did say over the last SEVEN years or so meaning nearly SEVEN years and have never had any problem with the Immigration people on either side or elsewhere in Thailand.

    I have found that if you treat them courteously and friendly lt helps and again my visits are not for the purpose of avoiding having to obtain a retirement extension or other means to reside in Thailand.

    It was about 7 years ago that the VIP option was terminated by Thai authorities (Burmese authorities were cool, either way). 


    Added note:  It behooves farang to look at their rubber stamps (in their passport/entry card) on the Thai side when entering Thailand.  Should do it immediately after getting stamped.  More than once, I've found mistakes re; the date on the rubber stamp.  Most recently; 3 days ago.

  5. 2 minutes ago, StevieAus said:

    I have used that crossing many times over the last seven years or so

    I have a Retirement Extension and multi rentry permit and have to formally leave and return  Each time I have had to pay for a day visa on the Myanamar side

    I have never been offered any day option alternative and never seen it offered to any other non Thais using this crossing of which there are many.

    The only people who seem to avoid using their passports are the Thais who get a day pass by getting their ID card which seems to be incorporated into a form at the local District Office ( this is what my Thai wife does)

    Let me guess: you've been doing those crossings in the past few years.

    If you had been doing those crossings several years ago, there was a 'VIP pass' option which I called a 'day-pass' on and off.   I say 'on and off' because it was sporadic, though most of the time it was an available option by the Thai side.


    For their part, the Burmese side was always accommodating - regardless of other factors.  In other words, while Thai officials would change their regulations week to week, (depending on which way the wind blows, how they were feeling, whether they were offended by something a Burmese general said a week earlier) ....the Burmese officials were cool-headed.


    Another difference between Thai and Burmese officials, on each side of the border....


    Thais seem to hide in their kiosks. They cocoon themselves behind papered/tinted windows and behind computer screens, so as to have as little eye contact as possible with travelers.  In contrast, on the Burmese side, it's like the traveler is dealing with real people.  You can see their faces, they have facial expressions, there's sometimes some banter/joking with travelers.  On the Thai side, going and coming, it's like the traveler is dealing with robotrons, each with a fixed expression of boredom.


    23 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

    They could of gotten re-entry permits for the permit to stay they got from their visas to make a trip out of the country.

    Where do they get those re-entry permits?   .....at the place/time when they first get their visas - in their home country?  .....or at the Thai side of a border crossing?  .....or ?

    I'm not being a smart-alec, but am asking sincerely.

  7. 3 hours ago, duanebigsby said:

    Give it a rest. You obviously know all the answers and nothing the resident expert Ubonjoe can say will satisfy you. None of the Thai alphabet are "reversed" or "seen through a mirror" What utter nonsense.

    I didn't say I had all the answers.  Are you saying I do?  

    I respect Ubonjoe's knowledge of the byzantine world of Thai Imm rules, though the rules change from place to place, and are administered according the subjective whims of whichever official is manning the kiosk at any given time.  


    I could cite over a dozen examples of how Thai Imm rules have been mutable, from my own experiences.  The 3 Indians is a case in point.  That day, when I accompanied the Indians, the four of us went to two different places where there were uniformed Thai Imm officials, and not one official put forth an option which would accommodate our needs.


    It was as if the Thai officials, after taking a look at the dark skin of the Indians (from southernmost India), decided not to offer any options.  In typical Thai style, the officials kept up their mantra "mai dai, mai dai, mai dai."  while waving their hands and avoiding eye contact.


    Are Thais color-conscious?   Is water wet?



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  8. 1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

    The 3 Indians had formal visas issued (from Thai Consulate?) prior to when they arrived in Bkk.  Apparently they were allowed one entry only, so they couldn't leave the kingdom for a side trip.

  9. 1 minute ago, ubonjoe said:

    A visa on arrival was available for them but the immigration officer was able to see that it was not a viable option for them since they apparently had a permit to stay longer than than the 15 days a visa on arrival would allow.

    If that's true (and I don't doubt your knowledge on these topics), then Thai Imm rules are even more convoluted and screwed-up than I thought.  It's like trying to read Thai, when a random quarter of the letters are reversed, and a quarter are seen through a mirror.

  10. 4 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

    If you go through departure immigration procedures you need a valid visa or re-entry permit for re-entry to the country unless you want to get a 30 day visa exempt entry.

    At one time it was possible to leave and re-enter the country without going through immigration if you got a border pass to enter Myanmar but I think that is no longer available.

    It seems immigration did your friends a favor by not allowing them to leave the country. If they had done the crossing they would of only been able to get a 15 day visa on arrival after paying a 2000 baht fee fore it.

    Not quite.  Your closing sentence doesn't reflect the reality of the situation.  Thai Imm officials left no option for the 3 Indians.  Nada.  Zilch.  


    In your other part of the post, you refer to 'border pass.'   You may be referring to what existed for years,  up until about 6 years ago:  a VIP pass.   That was convenient, and win-win for all involved.  On the Thai side, they charge just Bt.100, and there were zero stamps in a person's passport.  It was good for one day - not overnight.  I called it 'a day pass.'


    It was great, but like many great things, Thai authorities snuffed it out.  Their reason (as told to me by an Imm officer) "Why you go Burma buy things? You can buy same same in Thailand."


    Actually, the VIP still exists, somewhat.  It's allowed for large Chinese groups if they have a licensed Thai guide (....who knows less about the border town than I, ...but that's a different story).   Only Chinese in groups.  No one else.   Thai racial profiling/bias.

  11. I was also going to mention Chung King mansion.  It's a giant building with about 8 elevators (yes, I'm a yank). 


    It's walking distance from the cross-bay ferry on the Kowloon/Tsim Tsam Shui side.  Ask anyone. 


    The ground floor is like walking into a Star Wars movie - the first one, where Luke walks into the bar with all the aliens.  People from every ethnic group on the planet. 


    There are dozens of guest houses to choose from, all on upper floors.  All are cramped, but cheap.  The type of room with a single bed, and about five inches along one side between bed and cardboard-thin wall.  There are also some good and cheap places to eat, in there.


    I particularly enjoyed the time I was on the ground floor, and a Bengali merchant was on the phones.  I use the plural, because he had a phone on each ear, and was having two conversations concurrently, shouting in both mouthpieces (older style phones).  It was like a Saturday Night Live sketch.  Imagine a very big John Belushi Indian man shouting red-faced sweaty, ....you get the picture.

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  12. I realize that most farang who seek to cross that border, don't need a formal re-entry (1,000 baht) provision.   But how about farang who are on real  visas? (not visa-on-arrival with 1 or zero departures) ....or farang who are on single entry 60-day visas.  Sorry if this sounds convoluted, but

    A. I don't know all the jargon, and

    B. Thai Imm authorities make the rules so byzantine, it's not easy to wade through them.


    I've been across that border many times with no problems, but am not asking about myself, because I have a multi-entry provision.


    Instead I'm asking about other farang (friends) from Europe and N.America.   Note: I went with three Indian friends, all of whom had formal visas (obtained before entering Thailand), and they were not allowed to cross the Tachilek border, even for a day of visiting - because they only had a one-entry (to Thailand) provision, which they already used when entering Thailand prior.   Thai Imm authorities offered the Indians no options to remedy their situation.   Note: all 3 Indians were well-dressed executives at Toyota (I mention that because Thai authorities are always looking at a person's appearance and social status).

  13. some observations:   I'm writing this from a hotel in Tachilek.  river is v. muddy - more than the usual muddy.  My guess; there's a lot of earth-moving up-river.  earth moving all around Tachilek - similar to Chiang Rai.  much of that are rich Chinese who want an escape valve if China goes thru major calamity, as it does every few decades (famine, civil war, buried under pollution, int'l war, banking crisis, or....).


    If the bosses at Tachilek had any care for the environment, they would consider building a promenade along the river, and one or two parks.   Again, it's similar to Chiang Rai in that way.


  14. I just now spoke with support at BX. I was pleasantly surprised they had someone available at 9:50 pm.  He had a thick difficult-to-understand accent, but we conversed.  He substantiated that BX doesn't accept Americans, and couldn't recommend any other exchange in Thailand. 


    I suggested: they make a mention on their website: that they don't accept Americans BEFORE the application form process - .....that way Americans wouldn't spend the time, get the 2 photos, etc, .....and then find out AFTERWARDS that they're not welcome.





  15. Bitcoin and other cyber currency have lots of security for the short term, but the people managing the exchanges are not reliable.  If there's even a hint of things going bad, they're running out the doors with as much lucre as they can carry.  In this cyber world, a minute is like a month.  Similarly, the security you think is air-tight today, could be as solid as a sheet of wet tissue paper tomorrow.


    Mt.Gox was the Chernobyl of exchanges.  When will Fukushima hit?  How quick will investors be able to change their cyber currency back into dollars?  Hours?  Days?  Months?  Never?




    excerpt from the bitcoin exchange website: "The period during which Users can file bankruptcy claims using the Online Method expired at 12 noon on July 29, 2015."



  16. 20 hours ago, how241 said:

    Way off topic as we are talking about investment and cyber currencies....It's funny that you only start saying how this is all a fraud/scheme  AFTER  you are having trouble making a trading account.  If you REALLY believe that this is a fools game then Why you have spent so much time trying to get into this fools game ??

    You're right.  I'm playing both sides of the street.  

    I want to get in the game, yet I'm dissing the product nebulous currency.


    It's rather like going to Reno to gamble, while concurrently telling people that gambling is bad.


    BTW, if were to go to a casino (which I won't, 'cause it's not my thing), I would only go with as much cash as I could comfortably afford to lose.  I recommend the same for Bitcoin and related crypto things.  Only invest as much as you're able to lose, because the bubble could burst any time.


    I've got a buddy up here in northern Thailand who can't locate 160 Bitcoin he secured from Mt.Gox in 2013.   He also spent 15 bitcoin on a 'mining machine' from Switzerland which never arrived.  The Swiss company took his payment but, ....surprise!,  nothing came of it.   If anyone can assist in the British guy getting his account functioning, please contact me.  P.s. some of his Mt.Gox stash got transferred to Lake BTC in France.  It appears Lake BTC is also a bottomless money drain pit like Mt.Gox.  I'll be glad if anyone can prove me wrong.


    In a nutshell, the 3 ways which my Brit friend got involved with Bitcoin were all strike-outs.  3 strikes, he's out!    Someone got the real money he invested, and they're long gone.  Lucky for them.

  17. 2 hours ago, coinsandman said:

    Very bad, I do not recommended . I try to withdraw THB at bx.in.th .  I didn't get any money till now (4 days). Customer support very poor, She couldn't help buy just closed my Support ticket.  This web site claim to paid withdraw in 24 hrs but totally lie.

    Who is BX run by? My biscuit is still burned by the news (I found out this morning) that they don't allow Americans to get accounts.  


    I checked out coins.co.th   They apparently want new customers to deposit money into a bank account in Cadiz Spain - in order to get the ball rolling.  That gives me pause.  Another exchange wants credit card payments which, along with other fees, amounts to around 12% in fees, just to get in the game.  They say they don't keep c.card data, but how much can you trust online whiz kids with no faces, who may be thousands of miles away?  ....or the ubiquitous hackers who hover everywhere (particularly where there's the most valuation) like flies around a hippo corpse.


    I spent about 3 hours today checking options (for getting in to the digital currency), and I'm disappointed.  The whole kitcumboodle of digital (or crypto-) coin was designed (partly) to make transactions easier and divorced from corporate banks.  It seems crafted to do the opposite. 


    It's shaping up like a pyramid scheme, where the top 5% (those who got in earliest) get the most lucre.   It would be the top 10%, but half of early birds lost their initial investment (Mt.Gox, etc.).  5% of that top 5% have really big value, but the whole time, zero product has been produced, unless you count the people selling digital plastic wallets.   Not one piece of wood to build a table, nor one carton of milk to feed a hungry kid.  .....just group-think value based on something of no substance.  At least during the Dutch tulip bubble, some people got some tulip bulbs.   


    .....as much substance as cigarette smoke.

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