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  1. The general consensus is that the "online extension" through VFS is pretty useless. You will still need to attend Immigration. All they really do is verify that your paperwork is correct, and make an appointment for the visit to the immigration office. The last I checked, this service was also only available in Bangkok. The only benefit of this hand holding procedure by VFS is that it reduces the chance of a wasted visit to Immigration resulting from not having the correct documents.

     

    If you need to be assisted through the application for an extension, although a little more expensive, I would suggest you look for an agent who tend to do it better, and who support applying at more immigration offices.

     

    If doing the extension yourself, try to make an appointment to minimise waiting. At any rate, there is absolutely no objection if you just want to turn up as in the past. It will just take longer.

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  2. 15 minutes ago, Pickwick said:

    I appreciate your help already and appreciate you may not know the answer to this but given the unfathomable logic of immigration rules I now wonder - if I went to immigration and got a future date of cancellation stamp - let's say 15th November (purely as an example), if I reached the border on the 13th would they let me leave? Or would I have to leave exactly on the 15th?

     

    Finally (I think and hope), should I decide to ditch my plans and fly to Laos then no visit to immigration is necessary as flying out automatically cancels the ED visa -  and will not cause future problems? As always, many thanks for any advice.

     

    To answer you first question, there would be no problem leaving at any time after the formal  truncation of your permission to stay.

     

    As long as you have the formal letter from the school identifying when your course of study ended (and maker sure you do not later lose it) there will be no serious later consequences from just leaving by air.

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  3. 8 hours ago, sussex said:

    Thanks for your response. It should be possible to have the cancellation of old WP overlap with the new one so that there is no break in the WPs and it needn't be done on exactly the same day.

     

    The thing is the office are saying it's easier to do this by applying for a new F visa abroad, rather than trying to do the change of extension of stay in Thailand. There is a general reluctance I've noticed for enabling the in-country change - I know countless people who've been sent to Vientiane for new visas instead of doing the change here. I'd much rather do it all in one go here, especially since I'm looking to apply for PR soon so I don't want any breaks in my extensions of stay.

     

    There may well be confusion between (i) applying for a visa at Immigration from an entry as a tourist (or visa exempt) which is complicated; and (ii) applying for an extension of your permission to stay when already on a Non Immigrant entry. You want the latter, and there is nothing fundamentally different about the extension whether you start from a Non Immigrant visa from an embassy or are already on a Non Immigrant entry. Talk to the office, and see if they understand this distinction. You do not need a new visa.

  4. 4 hours ago, Psychic said:

    Might have something to do with coming back into the country without the reentry stamp.

     

    Correct. Once you enter Thailand without a re-entry permit, any older permission to stay is gone forever. There would be little chance of airport immigration accepting a photocopy of the re-entry stamp, and absolutely none of resurrecting the old permission to stay once you enter with a new permission to stay.

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  5. 7 minutes ago, sebhoff said:

    Interesting - thanks!

    The receive 100€/month from the German sending organisation, plus accommodation and lunches. The rest is their own responsibility.

     

    Go in person to your local Labour Department with every document you can think of. In my experience, the officials are usually friendly and helpful when faced with reasonable enquiries.

  6. 11 hours ago, bigt3116 said:

     

    Appalling advice as the people want to do volunteer work and that is not allowed on a tourist visa

     

     

    More appalling advice for the same reason as above.

     

     

    The final piece of appalling advice from you.

     

    Did you even read the OP's post? You added nothing but incorrect advice and what would lead to them working illegally - well done! (not)

     

    Actually, following rules changes a couple of years ago, this is not cut and dried. A lot of volunteer work, these days, is allowed without a volunteer visa or similar. What is and is not allowed is not 100% clear, but most volunteer work that does not involve financial gain is permitted. The OP mentions that they receive expenses. That is enough that I would want an official ruling from the Labour Department on whether the volunteer work envisaged is permissible as a tourist.

  7. 2 hours ago, retayl said:

    But as I posted it is not shown as one of the options.

     

    As @Lemsta69 implied, it is very possible that the available options depend on your nationality, and the embassy/consulate that will process your application. Many years ago, the UK was a special case when it came to those in receipt of a UK state pension. I think that it still is For a long time, some embassies/consulates allowed you to apply for a Non O (retirement) while others only had the Non O-A (long stay) visa as an option.

  8. Take a look at Police Order on Extensions of Temporary Permission to Stay. The main sections to look at is are extensions under Reason 2.3 or Reason 2.27, though Reason 2.15 could also apply (only allows your permission to stay to be extended 90 days at a time).

     

    What you want is a termination letter specifying the end of you current employment as about two to three weeks in the future. Using this, you visit the immigration office (Changwattana if you are in Bangkok) to have your existing permission to stay based on working truncated  At the same time, talk with them to make sure you are clear on the documents you require (probably under Reason 2.3) for your permission to stay to be extended. When you have those documents in hand. visit CW again for the extension.

  9. 6 hours ago, steevjee said:

    Nil chance of rejection, I've read the terms and can qualify easily on every level

     

    If you easily qualify for the Non O-X visa, you would usually also qualify for the LTR-WP (Long Term Resident Wealthy Pensioner) visa. Do you have a reason for rejecting that option, especially as one reason for choosing the Non O-X seems to be financial (and the Non O-X visa does not have the tax benefits you get from the LTR-WP).

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  10. If you have a letter from the school, you would probably be able to leave even by land. However, if you plan to use a land crossing, it would be prudent to visit your local immigration office to get your permission to stay formally cancelled. If leaving by air, there is certainly no issue. Keep that letter from the school, just in case you meet the kinds of officials later who try to find problems.

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  11. Are you doing the change simultaneously (i.e. one contract ending and another starting on the same day, or with an overlap)?

     

    If so, visas are irrelevant. What you should be doing is changing the reason for your permission to stay. I am in a hurry right now, but I will refresh my memory on extensions working for a government or similar entity, and provide a suitable link later tonight.

  12. 9 hours ago, Dene16 said:

     

    Don't believe what some people are saying about just getting a stamp in your passport it is a lottery, I have been stopped once on one day overstay and received a 500baht fine. It has happened twice to my friend although one of the occasions was with me and got fined both times. The fine must depend on the mood of the immigration officer. I have noted this before but still the same people state that there will be no fine. Maybe my friend and i just look like fineable people?

     

    When you were fined, were you departing via one of the Bangkok airports? If not, the fine is normal. I have never heard of a fine when departing with a one-day overstay from Suvarnabhumi or Don Muang.

  13. 22 minutes ago, smoo1954 said:

    Further question relating to my OP. What would be the latest date to apply for extension? My current permission to stay ends 20/02/2024.

     

    You can apply for an extension of stay based on Thai spouse right up to the last day of your existing permission to stay. (Note: if you are currently using a visa to enter Thailand, how do you have a current entry stamp that gives a permission to stay ending 20 Feb 2024? If you mean your visa expires on that date, the expiry of your permission to stay will depend on when you enter Thailand.)

     

    Although able to apply for an extension of your permission to stay right up until the last day, it would be reckless to do so. Apply about three to four weeks before so you have time to react in the event of any problems.

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  14. On 11/8/2023 at 3:26 AM, bangkok blue said:

    Thanks Tim,

     

    So it is actually possible for my company to do extension on permission to stay on the multiple-entry nono-O visa 1 year visa then, thus avoiding having to leave every leave every 90 days?

     

    If doing an extension of your permission to stay based on your Thai spouse, your employment is completely irrelevant. Your employer will not be able to do it for you. If you are doing an extension of your permission to stay based on working, the company can (might) help. You will still need to visit the immigration office with whoever handles these things within your company. Having done the extension on the basis of working (or Thai spouse) rather than using your visa, you will then need to do 90-day address reports (but these are usually not too much of a hassle).

     

  15. 2 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

    What about VOA, which stands for Visa on Arrival? Must be a Visa, right? That one, can amazingly be extended 7 days at an immigration office.

     

    I try to avoid inserting myself into this kind of bickering, but it is useful for people to understand this point, and many do not.

     

    When you have a 15-day permission to stay from entering with a visa-on-arrival, in most cases, your permission to stay cannot be extended. Instead, what usually happens is that you apply for an extension and the application is rejected. The standard procedure after any extension has been formally rejected is that you are given an order to leave the country within seven days. This is not the same as your permission to stay being extended and, if you do not leave within the seven days, it is a serious matter.

  16. 4 hours ago, ElephantEgo said:

    Could this be useful in somewhere like Phuket? During peak tourism season, the IO is completely overrun and they exhaust queue cards daily.

     

    If I am able to submit all documents online and then just go in with my wife to get the stamp, it might be very useful and save time/paper.

    I don't mind the added cost if it helps me save time. What is the cost anyways?

     

    Just making an appointment instead is free. Anyway, the last time I checked, the VFS service was Bangkok only.

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