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43 minutes ago, hackjam said:This is positive news indeed. Suspect it wont matter a dam about proving vaccine. Will just be so good to go out for a meal again.
--And the Teelack's boss is already massaging the rules to suit their need for sales staff before the anticipated September 1st opening of the mall:
--You can work if you have had two jabs of Sinno-something or one jab of Astra Zenica and are scheduled for your second.
--Screening of customers is going to be lax or non-existent. Come on in and bring your money.
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The "Quality Tourist" is another name for a foreigner with big bucks who shows up and spends a wad and leaves soon. Those folks are almost unheard of in Thailand because they want good facilities, drinking water they can drink, streets that are not lumpy cobblestones littered with trash and imported human detritus and unpolluted seas and beaches. Thailand needs to re-make herself and spend a whole lot of money to offer up the sort of experience they demand.
Those vacationers are not looking for the flock of 3 star hotels opening up to dirty, dangerous streets which only offer cheap beer and second hand single mothers from the poorest section of Thailand.
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3 hours ago, Denim said:
Wifes friend very happy to get her 1st Sinovac shot 2 days ago to be followed by AZ at Wichien Buri government hospital. She got a cancelation .
We are booked for Moderna in October but I will be very surprised if it materializes .
The prepaid Moderna jabs were scheduled for October but I've read that some hospitals who already have the money are admitting it is unlikely they will have the vaccine before May of next year. That is par for the course from my two decades of experience in Thailand: once it is paid for your order is on the back burner.
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The Thai significant other wasn't surprised when I told her that 50% of foreigners vaccinated were Burmese. Factory and construction owners want to keep their cheap labor working so they arrange jabs, even if it's Sinno-something.
She was surprised that I was surprised. They are so accustomed to being low on the totem pole that is is a given that the moneyed will act in their own interest.......always. And the Thai working class can go fish.
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1 hour ago, gk10012001 said:
I would add not just the genetic lottery, but a decent environment. Maybe a stable home, good educational neighborhood and opportunity, some good friends or associates around, etc.
That sounds pretty Ozzie & Harriet to me, hahaha.
Some of us grew-up poor white trash in rural America with a single parent who was more interested in where the next bottle was coming from than the education of the seven kids. Didn't stop most of us with five of us getting college degrees working part time during the school year/full time in the summer while attending a state university.
I have nothing but respect for the ladies who work a few weeks in the bar between terms or take a semester off to finance their education. But twelve years in the bar is just a poor career choice; a life full of addictions with no light at the end of the tunnel. The young pretties can always find someone who will finance them but the smart ones don't hang around very long. The ladies who stay too long will eventually go back home too but with a closet full of old clothes and a heart full of broken promises. Some will view this drastic downturn as an opportunity to learn other skills that will support them in their later years. The writer of the original article didn't bother to follow others who make the choice to get out of the trade and do something positive with their lives.
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Yes, I filled out the form when BHP went live on thailandintervac at 9am and afterward got the screen to copy when I appear on Tuesday the 7th of September at their prescribed hour.
AZx2.
I've never been there before but they handled registration well. If I can finagle some Pfizer through expatvac before then I will cancel the appointment, but not until after I get the jab.
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Being an over 60 resident living just a few km from the Central Festival 6th floor location, I will await my message from MOPH for my Pfizer jab. But I will still register tomorrow for the BPH program as advertised via Thailandintervac. It seems silly to have all these programs running but
i guess we can only play the odds and hopefully one of them will pan out??
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Many of the big companies are getting their staff vaccinated.
Central Retail Group has an organized plan & Teelack got her first jab of
AZ on Tuesday along with some of her co-workers in Chon Buri. In the Big City they have been vaccinated for weeks now.
They had announced big plans for one million jabs per day, then 10 million per month. Then empty promises about 20 mil, 30 mil doses of Pfizer ON ORDER.
Nobody trusts them any longer because of all the failures to date. Their credibility is in a shambles because of their own actions. The Thai economy is on a long slide downward and we haven't seen the bottom yet. It will be years before the tourism business is approaching the past if it ever truly recovers. Many wealthy Thai-Chinese families are losing a fortune because of this and they won't forget or forgive.
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2 hours ago, finnsk said:
I like to travel in Thailand, before Covid 3- 4 times a year, then we pack the car or take the domestic plane to somewhere in the country.
That was before, now we are trapped in a village long outside the ricefields, without covid vaccines, sitting on our ash and borring and try to get free of the delta variant.
I thinl many expats like me and my friends would like to make domestic travels if we where not covid trapped.
Give us for god sake the vax, then we can do some good to the country.
YES!!
Give us the good vaccines instead of more of the usual empty promises and domestic travel and business can take up some of the slack. But the days of old when Thailand would host 30 million plus travelers is gone for a long time at the present rate.
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4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:You raise the hurdles high enough, and few either want to or are capable of jumping that high.
In some places it is known as self sabotage or shooting oneself in the foot, a particular speciality of Phiphat, the sabateur in chief.
Tourism is now gone forever. They killed the industry. Shot it in the heart. Trillions of dollars in infrastructure wiped out. Permanently. Sure, five years from now we might see 3-5 million tourists annually. Maybe.
Well said and your ideas are similar to mine.
Their mishandling of the W-Flu has destroyed 15-20% of their economy and it won't be coming back for a long time, if ever. The days of 30+ million tourists annually are long gone.
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10 minutes ago, fallup88 said:
I recall they said 300,000 or so will be given to foreigners. But their requirement is you have to be over 60 or have or pre existing conditions or pregnant to qualify. If not they give you AZ.
The have already started giving expats who qualify at med park hospital.
Given how temperature sensitive and more caution it requires to handle Pfizer. Feels like more will expired or go bad due to mishandling before they can even use it up.
The temp requirement has been amended. FDA has determined that after being thawed the Pfizer can be safely stored in a reefer for 30 days.
This way back in May 2021:
MedPark was one of the few hospitals in LOS which had the facilities to store at very cold temps, but the thawing and shipping to rural areas can be done in a regular reefer truck .
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2 hours ago, chilly07 said:
Like everyone else I registered on Expatvac and have no response on an appointment. But I have got appointments this week at MedPark BNH Bumrungrad and via the British Chamber of Commerce at Bangrak all of which I have politely declined in favour of BPH next week so something is happening even though it seems chaotic!
However my wife breathes fire when I ask her about her preffered Sinopharm ( Pfizer Astra Seneca too strong for her) via originally Morprom and subsequently Red cross and Chulabhorn. I believe Sinopharm has arrived at City Hospital Pattaya but they are not confirming appointments!
Your experience is different than mine.
Teelack got a notice last week when she inquired in Pattaya and they initially said Sinnopharm was available at City Hospital at 2k per jab. When she tried to register they notified her an hour later that it was all allocated and no appointments available.
She is standing in a reasonably orderly line in Chonburi as I type along with some of her co-workers to get a free AZ jab organized by her employer.
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6 hours ago, tonray said:
My GF is a manager for Tops market, she said it's not really supply shortages, although there are some bottlenecks, but rather hoarding, people are loading up carts with 2 or 3 weeks food, especially staples like noodles, etc and meats that they can freeze for later use. They are working 7 days a week stocking shelves just to keep up.
I believe you are on the mark sir.
I recall back in 2010 when they said there was going to be a shortage of eggs and I saw old ladies with shopping carts full of eggs at Carrefour (now Big C). They panic, they buy everything they can lay their hands on. When the wholesale price is up to a position which is deemed acceptable by producers they will smile all the way to the bank & the scare will blow over.
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So what happened to the promises made to the expat community about the 1.5 million donated doses of Pfizer??
We need a little less talk and a LOT MORE ACTION from the persons in high places.
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Yes, Friday the 13th and all is quiet on the e-mail and SMS front.
I would like to believe one of these gentlemen are sincere and will follow through and see that the foreign nationals will get a portion of the 1.5 million doses, but I am beginning to think we've been played one more time??
I believe the person reporting that he had received Pfizer vaccine was talking about jabs at MedPark through the other program, not expatvac??
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Wife bought croissants, sliced bread and some very nice looking spuds this afternoon at BigC Pattaya Klang. Not as wide a choice as per usual she said but plenty on offer.
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Well, today is the 11th and Minister Anutin said the approved persons on expatvac should be getting a notice by now.
Have any of you who received an approved notice via e-mail received further instructions? I've been watching my e-mail and SMS like a hawk but no joy.
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1 hour ago, club said:
Complete Ignorance on the part of the useless US Embassy for believing anything Thai officials told them
It's called diplomacy.
I don't believe any promises were asked for/given in regard to the Pfizer donations. Only a general request to treat foreign nationals fairly as they would Thai nationals. You can not stand over each nurse with a hammer. Threats from 10,000 miles away are not helpful, but there has been announcements of future vaccine donations. Disregard for foreign nationals with the present batch might indirectly effect future gifts?
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35 minutes ago, Ohyesuare said:30 day shelf life isn't long enough to ensure they won't expire before everyone who got the first, will get their second if they thaw them out now since it's 4 weeks between doses. Very likely that Thailand will not be receiving any more Pfizer vaccine this year now that countries are starting to do 3rd shot boosters.
The first batch of Pfizer consisted of approximately 322k doses. The full 1.5 million will be arriving over several weeks time to enable second jabs.
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The lady is a little behind the times. The US FDA has ammounced that the Pfizer vaccine can be kept at normal reefer temps after being thawed out and has a 30 day shelf life at that temp.
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17 hours ago, macnmotion said:
There is no need for any of this. I've confirmed (by searching the insecure database when it was open to the world) that all email addresses were captured, even if it said it was already used. They will likely send out emails to all the email addresses that don't also contain the rest of the form information with links to complete the form. That is if they can figure out how to query the database for the correct records LOL
And you were right!!!!
I got the link to complete the application and successfully did so this evening.
Kudos to you sir.
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I've tried with a second e-mail address after the first attempt ended with a #476 error message. Same result with the second e-mail address: #476 error.
I am seriously doubting my choice of retirement locations and after visiting for a decade and another dozen years as a retiree it may be time to get out of Dodge City?
Brothers and sisters have all been vaccinated with Pfizer with no fuss and bother back in the western world. Some days the grief of getting simple things done in Thailand gets a bit tiresome.
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About one week ago they were taking applications in Pattaya for the next round of vaccinations.
Telack put in both of our names which had to be submitted in Thai only. She was accepted but the date is still up in the air.
I was rejected. She submitted a copy of my retirement visa, my yellow book, my pink Thai identification card but I got the red rejection with one word, written in Thai of course, "Foreigner".
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1st Lot of Moderna Vaccine to Arrive in Nov
in Thailand News
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If you have lived in Thailand for a while you just knew how this was going to play out....????