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Hope I'm not blacklisted when I return next year. I overstayed a bit(many years).
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No. The lifestyle is indeed fantastic. Imagine waking up and seeing $800 in your merchant account for doing just about nothing. I usually hit the gogos at about 8 o'clock and party hard until 4 am with the fresh cash.
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500 baht a day is comfortable. 150 for the loom, 150 for street food, and enough money left over for a couple bottles of beer. i'll just assume you get your chicks for free.
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Being broke in LOS. I can't think of anything worse.
I would high-tail it back to my own country ASAP.
I'd rather be broke in los traveling around than slaving away at a job i farangland for 50 hours a week. A lot of people would envy him. He's got it easy and he's traveling the world.
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Everybody on earth is a bit racist. It's sad. You just want to travel the world and you get hit in the face with the dark side of human nature.
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Please let us know the outcome. I overstayed my visa for many years and worried about re-entry too. I may be forced to live in Cambodia(not that that's a huge problem).
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with 300 $ you live better in Thailand than with 2000$ in the states.
in the USA you need at least 3000.
You must live in a high cost area of the US. $10,000 a year is easily possible(poverty line for 1) in much of the country. I can get a $325/month apartment in my hometown(aircon included). Add $150/month for food. Car is not required. Plenty live on even less. That kind of lifestyle would still cost less in Thailand though since you could find a decent apartment for $100 a month(1/3rd of us cost).
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$300 THB/mo is a living wage for most average Thais here in the LOS. I know plenty of Thais who live on that much, and they are far from miserable.
Maybe not , but they have an extended family , they live in the family house and share the income with each other to survive until the next month .
If you live alone it's a completeley different matter.
Why would living alone make any difference? They can get an extremely basic room for as little as 1000 baht a month. They don't pay farang prices(i.e. 5000 a month rent). 10,000 is normal wages and they can live on it just fine.
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I could not stand to live on that little either. But $600 a month(21,000 baht/month) is quite comfortable(my budget). That is about the minimum I could tolerate in Thailand. Below that, you're basically living a threadbare existence, eating mama noodles, etc. So, although the cost of living in Thailand is lower, there are limits for me and I'm used to living a pretty basic existence in Thailand.
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2000 thb for monthly rent in Phatthanakan area near the skylink line.
Room: 35 sqm with ceiling fan plus a small room for storage. Decent bathroom, no kitchen, two balconies, 3rd (top) floor.
I cycle to nearby huge Tesco around 9-10 pm almost every day. Many Thais go there at the same time to catch the late discount deals. Cheapy food prices drop from 50 to 2 (yes 2) and up to 10 bath per item regarding salads, vegetables, fish, soups, fruits, pizzas, milk, donuts etc
I don't drink alcohol. My Thai gf brings me a well cooked meal everyday since her school is 2 minutes walk...she's teaching there.
When going downtown I use the railway. 2 to 3 baht per trip to Makasan, Asoke, Phaya Thai etc.
Around 4000 to 5000 the most I believe.
48 btw.
Just wait somebody will say... "but but but you can't get anything for less than 15,000 a month in Bangkok"..
Funnily enough, I have seen places for 1200 a month in Bangkok. Wifi included in the deal. Could possibly beat them down to below a crisp 1,000 note.
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Wow. That's one of the cheapest 'looms' I've ever laid my eyes on.
Do you by chance use a Tesco bicycle as your main transportation?
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I really like the cost of living threads. It's interesting to see everyone's perspective.
We are all unique and have unique circumstances.
And prices have certainly gone up significantly where I live, too. It's not just Thailand where prices have gone up in the last 10-15 years.
For example, I rent a room in a house in the SF North Bay area (California) for $1,050 a month (37,317 baht at today's exchange rate). And it's just a normal sized bedroom. Nothing fancy but in a decent neighborhood. I think that's ridiculous but that's what they are going for. And that's much more than what anyone was paying ten years ago for the same thing. And no, my wages have not gone up proportionally.
I am not retired yet but it is happening soon.
Take care everyone. Thanks for all of your posts. Like I said, it's very interesting.
That's nuts. I can get a nice studio w/ aircon for US$100 a month in Thailand(wifi included). Yes, $100 a month(3500 baht). We're getting ripped off massively.
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His rent seems in inline for an average condo/apt in BKK. The rest listed I could pare most of it out. Some of his expenditures make zero sense to me. I also read many references to Starbucks in follow on posts....Who in the hell drinks Starbucks in Thailand?.....Good Grief. That place is a WAY overpriced everywhere they set up shop and most cases its 3 to 4x more. There are so many nice little roadside Thai coffee/tea places that are 30 to 35 baht for a REAL drink. I personally like Inthanine. If you live in Thailand and want western food you better dig deep. That is a deal breaker for many.
Anyway Interesting read. It will always boil down to the individuals expectations and where one lives. If I take my current living expenses in the states and compare them to my Thailand living expenses, I live nearly 6x cheaper with no debt in Thailand.
The more farangs and farang products I see, the faster I run in the opposite direction. Because I know the prices are going to be higher. I can live well in Isaan or CM on 1/3 of what this guy spends and get the exact same lifestyle.
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Dont like Philipines personally , but many farang i know do , They go for 1 reason.
Try Vietnam very nice
I've looked at the property prices there but it looks pricey. Nothing under $200 a month in HCMC?? I'm comfortable with about $100/month for a room rental. My income is not huge. I'm just a digital nomad, so I need a decent apartment that is priced right but has a good internet connection. For me, Thailand has ticked all the boxes so far. Although, I would choose Cambodia today if only I could find an apartment there for around $60 a month with wifi(still looking).
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Wife and I spend 40k month in total. Some months more, a few a bit less. We eat out once a week and have most of our laundry done. Her cholesterol and my high bp meds. 2k for her parents. Her scooter costs, my transport to work. We spend an addl avg 2k a month on 2-3 domestic trips (25k both) total about twenty days. We take two intl trips annually. Japan has been one destination last few years, usually about 60k for 7-9 days (both). Trips to USA vary.
I can easily get by on 15 a month in pocket money.
No idea what you people spend your money on, I hope its a nice pad and lots of sashimi. Maybe its lonely guy syndrome, need to go out every night to get some people around you. Maybe you just cant adjust to eating rice 3x or even 1x a day. Dunno.
Maybe it's because you eat rice 3x a day that you need high B.P. meds, mate.
Getting through 75K a month is easy in Bangkok if you want a few comforts like Western food, good quality, contemporary fixtures and fittings in your decently-sized condo close to a BTS and a few drinks at upmarket bars or clubs.
I wouldn't slate someone for living frugally if he/she is comfortable and happy that way but it ain't for me.
Besides, I've seen rents going for 3 or 4 times the 40 large I pay for my place and they go like hotcakes.
Clearly, a LOT of people are making real bank in Bangkok
They sure are good at wasting baht. I can find a nice apartment for 3500 baht a month(long term lease). Good 3 star accomodation w/ aircon and free wifi included. Believe it or not, there are guys paying 5x as much for the same place in Bangkok. They 'google' for apartments and get taken in by the real estate
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I've researched some of these countries and I'm shocked at the high prices. They say $500 a month for a place to stay is cheap?!? Definitely not where I'm from. I can get an apartment in my home town for $300 a month, so that is obviously not very impressive to me. $50-$100 a month is what I'm looking at.
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I'm wondering.. Do they have $50 a month apartments(wifi included) in Mexico like they do in Thailand?
Sorry for the question, but I'm a bit of a cheap charlie.
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Anybody lived in Malaysia? I have looked at property prices in Malaysia and it seems quite expensive. Nothing under US$250 a month. I can rent basic room in Thailand for $50 a month and up so for me, Thailand is a no-brainer. I went over to Cambodia, and it's the same thing. High prices for rentals. The only other country with cheap accomodation seems to be the Philippines.
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He can live in Thailand on 10-15,000 baht a month being a digital nomad. That's realistic first year earnings of a newbie. Move to CM or Isaan and rent a cheap apartment(2k/month) and start making money. That's what I did. Beats living in a dreary country with bad weather doesn't it?
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I'm in a similar situation as you are. Just returned from living in Thailand after several years. Got a job on the assembly line in my own country and I'm looking to move back to Thailand next year with 1-2 million baht saved. Having property bought and paid for will help make up for my low income. I make some money online but it is just enough to pay for food and some basic travel expenses. Unfortunately, there are not many jobs in Thailand available to foreigners other than teaching. For me, teaching is not the right way to go. But I hear you can still get a teaching job without a degree.
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My friend, 2 years is nothin' compared to what some guys have "accomplished"..
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Nearly impossible to be homeless in Thailand. You can get a room for <2k/baht per month. You could probably rent a cheap dorm room for an incredibly low amount. Or sleep in McDonalds.
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there is no future for thai people in the USA, once you are gone for good , they will go back to Thailand. it s all in your head. nobody want become an IRS slave.
People are waiting years to get into the USA, risking life and limb to hop borders.
Why? because there are jobs. The lucky ones get in and send funds abroad.
Your making some privledged IRS argument that is laughable.
For many immigrants paying taxes is the last thing on their minds, they just don't file.
Yeah, there are jobs available but not very high paying ones. $9 - $20/hr is typical. Add to that there is only 2 weeks vacation time some jobs offer none, police state silliness, etc. It's simply not a very desirable place to move to anymore.
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For me , the most important sentence in your story is : " I have an advanced education in Engineering and it was easy to find a very high paying job in the USA" .
That explains a lot . For people without it , it would not be so great.
I have no such degree and I'm doing just fine($40k/yr job). I'm able to afford to travel to Thailand. It would help if you didn't live in high cost places like California and New York where you need to be rich to survive.
Do you think I will have difficulties entering the country again?
How long could survive on three million baht?
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You realize some guys on here could make that princely sum stretch for 25 years or more?