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  1. I lived in Chiang Rai from 2005 up to 2009. I liked it because it was laid back and - unlike chiang mai - easy to get around and meet fellow expats. In 2009 I moved back home (Europe). Last year I visited Chiang Rai again. There was almost nobody left of the people and places I used to know. When I look at myself and my friends back then, I think it's safe to say that, unless you are financially retired, there is no way to build a sustainable future in chiang rai. So to stay on topic, what I would like to know through this forum, is to what degree you can speak of a lasting expat community in chiang rai? For example, 2 years ago I heard Rico's was the place to be, and now I just read that it's gone again. Same goes for the 3 pizza joints I used to visit, the belgian bakery, the old night market bars, the new night market bars (in the soi behind it). Instead chiang rai got Central and even more traffic and air pollution. So how many of you who are not retired can honestly say they plan to still be there in 5 years? By the way, this is not a rant, i still love and miss chiang rai, but I regret to think that it's just a phase for most people... And another question: i'd like to know what changed for the better in the last few years in chiang rai? (Please don't say Central bah.gif )

  2. The area around the hot springs past doi hang has recently been reshaped. Everything looks more natural now. Unfortunately physically enjoying the hot springs (bathing) has become almost impossible (At least it was about 9 months ago). For that you need to use the commercially exploited hotsprings (which don't have a very nice setting in my opinion).

    You can get a magnificent 360° view of the area around chiang rai from Rice box hill. It's pretty hard to find the pathway up the hill, and you need to be careful climbing up the worn out steps, but it's all worth it. I lived in Chiang Rai for almost 4 years and this is my personal favorite.

  3. I have taught LEGALLY (with a work permit) at a government school for 3 years. I took my wife and son back to my home country three months ago. While the salary you get is enough to live off, it is definitely not enough to build a real future with your family, especially if you want to keep in touch with your homecountry. You won't be able to build a house or buy a car, nor will it be possible to take your family to visit friend and relatives back home every few years. And assuming you keep going at it until you retire, there will be nothing there for you pensionwise. That is unless you have saved some serious money before you came to Thailand. In short even teaching legally in Thailand is not a long-term option for young and educated people. As a qualified teacher I therefore support this crackdown from a rational point of view: a lot of foreigners will get fed up and leave and salaries for teachers will have to go up. The ones who qualify and stay might have a chance at actually building a real life. From another point of view I sympathise with all the friends I have come to know in Thailand, who consider it their home, and will now be forced to leave.

  4. My wife and I have an eight month old son. Our child was born in Thailand and my name is on the birth certificate as the father and he also carries my last name. We are legally married in my home country (Europe) but have never made the effort of registering our marriage here. (We do have a certified thai translation of our marriage certificate.) Our son has 2 passports.

    If I want to take my son to visit my family at home, can I do this without my wife? Do I need any written permission from her to take the boy with me? Is immigration going to ask questions when we're just travelling the two of us? Thanks in advance.

  5. We've lived in thailand for 3 years. Upon arrival we bought a dog (pug). Now we have decided we will go back to europe (belgium) and obviously we don't want to leave the dog behind. Can anybody refer me to a post or website with the correct information on what we should do exactly? thanks

  6. For people who are not afraid of sadle-soreness:

    Rent your self a nice mountainbike at for instance Fat Free bicycle shop in the middle of town opposite the First Church or a good Honda Dream or Wave or whatever at ST Motorcycle rent at the clocktower. If you choose for a moutainbike: Be prepared for some climbing!

    Be warned, it is a tour of almost sixty kilometers!

    First to Den Ha (the market at the military base) and follow the signs to Huay Kiam Hot Springs (about 22 kms).

    A beautiful road through a beautiful mountainious environment, hardly any traffic.

    A good place at a great spot at the Kok River for a break and a little cheap meal.

    Continue then on a dirt road to the narrow hanging bridge over the Kok River. You pass some Akha villages on the way (5 kms). Cross the swinging bridge and take to the right. After 8 kms good grit road (breathtaking views, you are riding along the Kok River) you will arrive in the Karen elephant village Ban Ruammit( and back on paved roads). On the way you passed some Lisu villages.

    From Ban Ruammit back to town. Choose between passing the old prison and the beautiful road to Ban Nam Lat (to the right at the school of the village where the sois are marked with corncobs), you will pass the opposite side of Pattaya Noi.

    Don't forget to take a shower afterwards  :o

    Limbo.

    Indeed a nice tour. Thank you for mentioning it Limbo. However, one item must definitely be added: on the road to the hot springs, a few km outside of town you pass a hill on your right side with a standing buddha on the top. Talking about 360 degrees breathtaking views: this is my favorite around Chiang Rai so far (just discovered it last week, shame on me!). Great view of the Kok river around Pattaya Noi! The climb up is not that hard (although it might be too much combined with Limbo's tour.) Be shure to bring insect repellent if you're going for the sunset.

    Re-reading this thread, I guess I must have been talking about Rice Box hill, according to Joel. So all credit for mentioning it goes to him :D

  7. For people who are not afraid of sadle-soreness:

    Rent your self a nice mountainbike at for instance Fat Free bicycle shop in the middle of town opposite the First Church or a good Honda Dream or Wave or whatever at ST Motorcycle rent at the clocktower. If you choose for a moutainbike: Be prepared for some climbing!

    Be warned, it is a tour of almost sixty kilometers!

    First to Den Ha (the market at the military base) and follow the signs to Huay Kiam Hot Springs (about 22 kms).

    A beautiful road through a beautiful mountainious environment, hardly any traffic.

    A good place at a great spot at the Kok River for a break and a little cheap meal.

    Continue then on a dirt road to the narrow hanging bridge over the Kok River. You pass some Akha villages on the way (5 kms). Cross the swinging bridge and take to the right. After 8 kms good grit road (breathtaking views, you are riding along the Kok River) you will arrive in the Karen elephant village Ban Ruammit( and back on paved roads). On the way you passed some Lisu villages.

    From Ban Ruammit back to town. Choose between passing the old prison and the beautiful road to Ban Nam Lat (to the right at the school of the village where the sois are marked with corncobs), you will pass the opposite side of Pattaya Noi.

    Don't forget to take a shower afterwards  :o

    Limbo.

    Indeed a nice tour. Thank you for mentioning it Limbo. However, one item must definitely be added: on the road to the hot springs, a few km outside of town you pass a hill on your right side with a standing buddha on the top. Talking about 360 degrees breathtaking views: this is my favorite around Chiang Rai so far (just discovered it last week, shame on me!). Great view of the Kok river around Pattaya Noi! The climb up is not that hard (although it might be too much combined with Limbo's tour.) Be shure to bring insect repellent if you're going for the sunset.

  8. My limited Belgium and reading the above article tells me that he was actually fined for purchasing hot/stolen goods (one of which being the watch). Somebody from Belgium to confirm? Cheers!

    Apparantly he knew that he bought a fake rolex. Counterfeiting is a felony. Knowingly buying something generated from a felony puts you in the same position as somebody purchasing hot/stolen goods. Hence the verdict.

  9. Bluffer's call to arms is somewhat disingenuous and I hope he doesn't take offence if I decline the challenge to debate "whither teaching in Thailand" or any other such subject he might unreasonably extrapolate from my earlier posts.The purpose of using parentheses was abundantly clear to anyone with the meanest of intelligence as he full well knows;not all ajarns in Thailand merit the description and in highlighting that possibility by the use of " was simply an economical way of introducing the concept into my post.

    However, we digress. It seems that those more experienced in the teaching profession have concluded that the poster's illiteracy should be no bar to his gaining employment as a teacher of english in Thailand.As I understand it, the objections to my posts are based on the notion that I place too much weight upon accurate spelling. On reading the post it is pitifully apparent that not only can he not spell but his expression is so clumsy that it obscures the meaning he wishes to convey. Now, we have to ask ourselves, is this because he is stupid or is it because his command of the language is so tenuous that he cannot express his ideas in a sufficiently coherent fashion. Difficult to tell, really. Either way, it seems to me he is not competent to teach that language either formally or conversationally, at any price.

    If this is the kind of english you use in front of Thai students then I 'm afraid they don't know what the h3ll you're talking about. Or is it just to show how distinguished your english is?

  10. Somewhat similar to the like/dislike question of Trebek: Which places do you think are worth showing to your friends visiting chiang rai (and surroundings) when they have more time than the average tourist.

    I'll start by mentioning the obvious and some of my favourites:

    - night bazar

    - wat rong khun (the white temple)

    - the elephant camp

    - the hot springs

    - Pattaya Noi

    - the old airport around 17h30 when everybody is jogging etc.

    - the area behind the old airport (the lake and the hill from which you have a great view over the city)

    A little bit further: Doi Tung and Mae Salong

  11. I am still looking for a delicious and cheap baguette with cheese. In Cambodia and especially Vietnam they're selling great baguettes on every corner of the street. Here the bread seems to get soft and mushy (is that a real word?) an hour after they've come out of the oven ( Limbo, maybe you can talk about this with your Big C connections :D because the big C baguettes seems to transform themselves after you buy them. They seem fine when you buy'em but when you want to actually eat it a few hours later, you're thinking "Is this the same baguette as the one that I bought?" :o )

    The same about pizza's: I am aware of the fact that real cheese (not that cheddar crap) is an expensive product around here, but is 200 bath really justified? Where are all you Italians out there? I am shure any one of you can do a better job.

    Of course it is likely that I don't know my way around CR well enough, so if somebody could enlighten me...

  12. As I doubt that they had the Belgian national anthem ready after flupke finished first, here it is. (The Belgians with their hand over their hearts and tears in their eyes of course... :o ): :D:D:D O dierbaar Belgie O heilig land der vaa-ad'ren ..... :D:D:D

  13. I don't think there 's a reason to be paranoid about this. If somebody has had a great experience, we can only be grateful if they want to share it with us. Nobody made a fuss about some well-respected TV members recommending the Hamburger 1 place in Bandu either...

  14. 1,5 years ago I had the greatest fried chicken in butter at a mainly open-air restaurant almost opposite of Big C. (Thai for thai restaurant. No english menu). A few months ago I was there again, and the place had been taken over. No more delicious fried chicken. Can anybody recommend a good alternative?

  15. Great story Trip.

    But grovel to sort it out?  Why should he have to grovel to someone coz he sent a text to the wrong  number?  Its his gf at fault, throwing him out on the streets, what a pussy. :D

    Sometimes lifes a lot easier if ya let lady think they're right!!!!!!! ###### hath no fury like a woman scorned (or if she think's she's scorned).

    And sometimes life gets a lot worse if you allowed yourself to be pussy whipped so easily. Depsite that fact that your pride is gone, and she will always believe she was right about this and you 'play around' which will come back to you many a time.

    I say set her straight about this, and not with a grovel either, the poor guy just spent a night out of his bed coz he sent a text to the wrong person, how mad is that. :D

    Sorry if you disagree but I just can't believe the amount of farang guys out here that are in such fear of their girlfriends.

    And then to come on here and ask a bunch of strangers what he should do, like we are all going to flip open the 'thai girls handbook' and give him a speech about loss of face, buddhist traditions and some other cultural differences to show him that its just a simple misunderstanding on his part, he doesn't know the culture and what he should do is this or that. :D

    Facts are facts, she's being out of order, and he aint got the balls to tell her so.

    I mean, honestly, a question to all the men - If your gf threw you out on the streets because you accidently pressed the wrong button on a mobile would you go back the next day and grovel to her to get back in the house?

    F.uck that, get a bit of self respect. :o

    i totally agree

    why defend yourself when you havent done anything wrong

    its happened to me before

    i was in a bad relationship and when i started to stand up for myself A i stopped feeling like a pussy and B got more respect.

    that was 5 years ago and since then first sign of any mistrust or control and im out of there

    i dont see the point of being unhappy for a second when you have the power to do something about it

    go back get your stuff and get a girl who trusts you

    and be more careful with your phone in future

    I hope Tokker reads and understands this. With all due respect to him... if he has a relationship as he describes, it's not really that much of a relationship.

    Certainly compromise is part of any serious relationship and especially marriage, but it's a two way street. It HAS to be reasonable compromise as well.

    It is indeed a fine line as he describes, but if he's had the sort of blow-ups like OP describes, it's crossed the line... and once crossed, it will continue to be crossed.

    Having said that, we really do need clarification from the OP about that aspect of his post... his place? her place?... elaboration on "thrown out" as well.

    FYI, I don't feel I described my relation in that way that you would have enough information to understand it, let alone be a good judge about it. I never got kicked out of the house, never got chased by my wife with a knife (like I read on this forum a few days ago...). I was just trying to point out that irrational behaviour is not uncommon in LOS (nor anywhere else in the world) and that the macho way is not always the best way to deal with it. Am I a pussy for not having the "my way or the highway" attitude like some people on this forum?

  16. All,

    With all respect, I hate generalisations !

    I too have lived a bit in LOS and travelled extensively back and forth since 25 years.

    Yes, most Thais "imported" in Belgium are not the high educated type, and yes, very few do hold high level jobs here. But I do know some.

    Simply put, it also depends with who you mingle, but in my group of friends, only one works in a restaurant and none cleans.

    Then again, most of them do not 'have' to work.

    And without disrespect for anyone,none of us are Pattaya visitors if you catch my meaning.

    OTOH, any chance of a get together party here in Belgiumburi ????

    Anyone interested ?

    just my 2 satang

    Where is Belgiumburi? :o

  17. I am in exactly the same position.

    I got the marriage certificate in the city hall and had it legalised in Brussels by the Belgian government. I didn't have it translated to get my non-O. Apparantly it was not necessary. However at the Thai embassy they advised me that i'd have it legalised by them too, so I could use it as a genuine document in Thailand.

    I guess I still have to get it translated to get my extension but I plan to do this in Thailand as I think it will be cheaper.

    As I will be staying in chiang rai I hope i don't need a trip to BKK in this scenario. Can anybody assure me about this.

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