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  1. 20 hours ago, MicroB said:

     

    Ok, obviously someone took over your account, because you never said any of these things:

     

     

     

    (Large scale immigration started 3 generations ago, so it is reasonable to ask for some sort of context tom a statement like "I had never seen a non-white person before when I was a child". There are some parts of the UK where I might think that would be a reasonable statement at a certain point in time. But as you intimate, you came of age in the 1960s, having been completely oblivious to the concept of a yellow/brown/black face, despite living in one of the Northern cities, except in the pages of your geography text books (grammar school?), then in your early 20s, become an avid listener of Enoch Powell, while at the same time being a habitual drug user in order to get by in some sort of musical entourage, I would naturally raise my eyebrows at that statement (whether any of it was true, that in fact, you were an ultra right wing hippy, and an admirer of Powell, when in fact, as you approach the end of your life, you have turned into your dad (who probably didn't like the idea of children taking drugs).

     

     

    (where I come from, "abduction" is kidnapping. It was a presumption on my part that you were describing yourself as a child. My mistake, you were describing yourself as an adult playing on the street without fear of "interferance" (rape)). If a child, pretty sad, that you had to play alone, no friends to play with. Hence later on turning to drugs to get on in life. Its a pretty strange to say, I suspect you are referring to the Rochdale case, something a lot of your ilk are obsessed with.

     

     

     

    (You need to check your account credentials. Because someone else pretending to be you in a post admitted to being a cocaine user, as well as LSD. That same person though said they drew a line at "smack". Some one admitting to taking illicit oral narcotics, illegal hallucinogens, cannabis and cocaine I would suspect of having a drug problem and being used to coming into contact with organised crime (the drug dealers)). I don't know any criminals, you did, because how else did you purchase your drugs. Not from Boots.

     

     

     

    (My mistake, I didn't know you were a member of a sect/cult, and not part of the Established Church).

     

    When you hijack a thread, be prepared to be taken to task with the statements that you make.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I am afraid I have had enough of your twisting words round to suit your agenda - I will only quote one example but there area many as I have already pointed out, but this is from your latest contribution:-

     

    "......being a habitual drug user in order to get by in some sort of musical entourage"

     

    Whereas what I said was :-

     helped along by a few pills along the way, and later on, a bit of "Wacky Baccy"! I also played in a group with  proper musicians playing proper instruments  - LIVE!!! But I never saw (or wanted to see) a needle in anybody's arm apart from hospital, or the Doctor's Surgery.

    Additionally, I never mentioned LSD ("Because someone else pretending to be you in a post admitted to being a cocaine user, as well as LSD. That same person though said they drew a line at "smack".) so it must have been as you say, "someone else pretending to be me" ( 🤣  Highly unlikely bearing in mind your penchant for twisting words around!

     

    I tried to keep the thread light hearted but you seem intent on picking me to pieces and I am afraid " I ain't gonna play your game any more". My contributions to you in this thread (and a previous one) are finished, and you are now on my "Ignore" list. As someone with 8000 + posts to my credit, I do not take this step lightly, and have taken your lack of posts/experience on AN into consideration, but I do not need your kind of criticism, thank you - have a nice life on AN, and yes, I know you will want the last word - "Newbies" always do, so be my guest! 

     

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  2. On 3/25/2024 at 10:00 PM, MicroB said:

    Once again, no time frame, so meaningless statement and the previous correspondant claimed to have lived in a "city" in  the North West of England, while ranting on about kids being kidnapped (ignoring that the most notorious case that happened when he was a kid), heroin (while saying taking pills was totally fine, and elsewhere, supporting cocaine usage), moaning about having his religion being changed (and he's probably like 90% of Britons, not really religious anyhow). He also ignored we tried to change their religion as well (missionaries etc).

     

    This discourse started because Sam Bum decided, on a thread about the UK and Thailand exploring a possible partnership, to bring in a well known anti-immigrant (anti-Muslim) trope about a supposed Swiss mayor refusing a mosque to be built. He brought up the Muslim faith for some reason only known to himself. And then he brings up Race. Completely random and off topic to the matter in  hand. Thread hijackers have to suck it up, when I see it for what it is, and he doesn't like it with home truths.

     

    You have a bad habit of misquoting people to suit your agenda:-

    "Once again, no time frame, so meaningless statement and the previous correspondant claimed to have lived in a "city" in  the North West of England, while ranting on about kids being kidnapped (ignoring that the most notorious case that happened when he was a kid), heroin (while saying taking pills was totally fine, and elsewhere, supporting cocaine usage), moaning about having his religion being changed"

     

    "Once again, no time frame,..." who else on this part of the thread didn't quote a time frame?

     

    "Claimed to have lived in a "city" in the North West of England" Once again pure speculation on your part that someone is making false claims.

     

    "...ranting on about kids being kidnapped....." Who said anything about kids "being kidnapped"? 

     

    "....heroin (while saying taking pills was totally fine, and elsewhere, supporting cocaine usage)"

    YOU were the one who mentioned heroin, and I didn't say I supported cocaine usage - I said that cocaine could be injected or snorted, and at no time did I say that I supported either.

     

    "....moaning about having his religion being changed"

    Once again, pure conjecture on your part - I never mentioned ANYTHING about having my religion changed.

     

    Misquotes from start to finish - you don't even qualify for a "Sad" emoticon!

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  3. 22 hours ago, MicroB said:

     

    You inferred the link between colour tv and race. Yes I did note your unintelligent quip; I get it. You refer to Afro-caribbean people as "coloured". You claim to have lived in a British city and never to have seen a yellow, black or brown face in the sixties. Not true.

     

    You admit to taken illicit narcotics, but drew the line at heroin.

     

    Better times now than those hateful years.

     

    I was born in the 60s. My mum and dad were army. They couldn't afford to buy a TV until 1974, and even then, it was a B&W portable in Hong Kong. They managed to rent a colour TV by 1979. So if you had a colour TV, which you probably made up, in the 1960s, you were well off. And you probably saw "coloured" people in your North Western English City.

     

    The reason you struggle to get an appointment is too many old people, and the government, on and off, blocking imported doctors.

     

    Your time is over. By the time the next UK government works out this deal, you will likely be the proverbial 6 feet under.

     

    You seem to know an awful lot about my life for somebody who doesn't know me!

    Firstly  - you say you got my double entendre about colour TV and race - you obviously missed the TV (Trans........ite bit!)

     

    I was trying to keep our communication on a lighter level but you seem intent on implying a lot of untrue slanderous things about me:-

     

    I "claim" to have lived in a British city in the 60's? Why on earth would I want to lie about that? And "never to have seen a yellow, black or brown face in the sixties. Not true." How do you know it's not true? For all you know I could be blind, colour blind, or as it happened - I DIDN'T SEE ANY IN MY CITY! Don't make me out to be a liar.

     

    I didn't say anything about heroin - you did! (For your information cocaine can be injected as well - or "snorted".)

     

    "So if you had a colour TV, "which you probably made up,...."  There you go again - I didn't say I/we had a colour TV, I said it was the age of colour TV. As a matter of fact, I and a few kids from our street used to go to a friend's house who was fortunate enough to have one.

     

    "The reason you struggle to get an appointment is too many old people, and the government, on and off, blocking imported doctors."

    Similarly, my comment about having to wait for a doctor's appointment was based on what I have heard from several friends who are in the UK, and one or two here, who have been back to the UK and tried to get an appointment for a non urgent procedure. An example is a friend who has had both knees replaced here recently as it was going to take YEARS in the UK to get an appointment with a consultant, and the procedure done. On the same tack, I have another friend who has had one knee replaced (in the UK) and has had to wait 4 and a half years to get the other one done. And the problem is not just too many OLD people - it's too many PEOPLE - and that includes all those coming in on boats illegally, and the number of Immigrants that heve been let into the country legally (by virtue of the fact they have family there)

     

    "Your time is over. By the time the next UK government works out this deal, you will likely be the proverbial 6 feet under."

     

    I find your final sentence unnecessarily insulting, hurtful as well as antagonistic, and it will be put on report.

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  4. 3 hours ago, MicroB said:

     

    "When was that grandad, 1920?" Suggest you get a new calculator! If it was 1920, that would make me 104 years of age! You're only about a quarter of a century out!

     

    No, I'm referring to the 50's and 60's when the world was waking up to a new age of Rock & Roll, colour TV (Am I allowed to say that?) the Beatles, and the Pill!

  5. 28 minutes ago, kwilco said:

    You said " main obsession being with tourism rather than production, "

    Tourism has for years accounted for around 20% of GDP.

     but "production"?? - Thailand is making the shift from agriculture to industrial and service economy..... Agriculture accounts for just below 10% and industry in general is over 35% and is increasing - the Thai motor industry is in the world top ten and bigger than the UK motor industry. Electronics industry includes many world brands Western etc...

     

     

     

    "Tourism has for years accounted for around 20% of GDP."

     

    Not according to figures that I read before Covid! However I shouldn't need to repeat the point that I was making which is that from what I read the emphasis from the Government is more on tourism than production. I don't recall seeing any rhetoric at all from the Government about production, but I see lots of articles about tourism. Maybe I should change my choice of reading material? 

     

    However, this is in danger of going off topic, (which from memory was about Visas?) so I won't be making any more comments on this subject. 

     

    Have a nice evening.

  6. 17 hours ago, kwilco said:

    For decades the UK, and most of the west has not taken Thailand seriously. They have lost influence and valuable trade.

    They have failed to recognise and address the rising influence of China.

    With war in Europe and potentially serious conflict in Asia the UK and western allies will need Thailand to be on their side. At present it isn't.

    UK ignores Thailand at its peril

     

    With comments like that - especially your final sentence - it is blatantly obvious why Thailand is not yet accepted as an equal by most of the Western world - they don't take kindly to threats, even if they are friends with one of the "BIG BOYS". It is not a player on "The World Stage", and is not "The Hub of Hubs" that it purports to be, and with its main obsession being with tourism rather than production, I see no reason to expect any significant change in the situation in the near future.  

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  7. 14 hours ago, MicroB said:

     

    Unless the Muslims were Swiss born and bred. In the modern era, the first mosque wasn't built in Switzerland until 1963 (this was a nation happy to do business with the nazis....). That's enough time for 3 generations of Swiss to be born who were muslim. You still think they should go "home" or not practice their faith?

     

    No, he wouldn't get away with it now, because we are better than that now. I grew up in an era when I would go down to the Connie club with mum and dad, and grandad would introduce a chap sitting next to him as "Sambo". I'd hate to go back to that era now.

     

     

    I read Enoch Powell's speech "Rivers of Blood" speech occasionally just to refresh my memory to remind me of how things were, and what they have become.

    I grew up in an era when (in my city at least) there were no brown or black or  yellow faces. There was nobody to "offend" with Christmas nativity plays, and nobody hid their faces behind face veils or masks. I could go out and play alone in my street without fear of abduction or interference, and drugs were something you got from the doctor when you were ill. Knives were something you only had if you were in the Boy Scouts, and guns were things that soldiers used in wartime. There were no boatloads of illegal immigrants trying to get into my country in order to get clothed and fed and housed by my Government, and then try to change the religion of my country into the religion of the country they were desperately trying to escape from.

    So, yes, I would like to go back to that era now, and as a certain pop song would put it "Those were the best days of our lives"!

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  8. 5 hours ago, Freddy42OZ said:

     

     

    Would you bother to even read such a sign?   If I did, the shop would immediately lost my business.  

    Plenty of places you can just walk in without taking off your shoes.   


     

     

    You wouldn't get in my house! The shopkeeper obviously likes to keep her floor clean - nothing wrong with that.

     

    And would you go into a temple/wat with your shoes on if you had been politely asked to remove them - as a sign of respect for their culture?

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  9. 18 hours ago, Lanny Wilkinson said:

    Of course they should revoke her Visa.  We (farangs) are guests in this country. Would you allow a guest in your home to remain after kicking one of your kids or pets?  Thailand politicians really need to think more of their citizens and less about the income from tourists. 

     

    As if that's going to happen! About as much chance as genuine democracy!

  10. There was an article on BBC News many years ago which I have never forgotten.

     

    The Mayor of a little village in Switzerland had been approached by the Muslims for his permission for them to build a mosque in the village.

     

    His reply went something like this:- "People come to Switzerland, and to our  village to see the lovely scenery - the lakes, the mountains with the snow capped peaks, and to appreciate the countryside and little houses that have remained the same for centuries - no skyscrapers or massive hotels because we and people who visit here like it the way that it is. So if you want to build a mosque, I suggest that you go back to the country that you came from to build it there - we don't want one here!"

     

    He probably wouldn't get away with it today because he would be running the risk of offending somebody! 

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  11. 5 hours ago, borderhopper2005 said:

    Good to know that thoughtless bixch got arrested and punished.

    Even though 500 Baths fine is too little, 2-week jail term sounds satisfactory(unless the victim suffers no further damages).

     

    Anywhere in the world, pregnant mother should be treated with reasonable care.

    Physically attacking such people is the last thing I can imagine; they cant't fight back sufficiently.  Or run fast enough because of their condition.

     

     

    Just a point to bear in mind if you read the post properly:-

     

    "....... has been fined 500 baht and handed a suspended 15-day jail sentence"

  12. 13 minutes ago, macgver said:

    Whether or not there is a free visa entry, many foreign tourists choose to stay. End up staying too long and becoming illegal. 

     

    Let us not complain that Thai people overstaying abroad have become illegal. The same goes for foreigners who stay in Thailand; many overstay and become illegal residents. 

     

    "many overstay and become illegal residents."

     

    Hence the current witch hunt for these dangerous criminals that are causing havoc to the tourist trade! 😁

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