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Strangely this has already been knocked off the number one news spot by Sky favouring the live footage of the ground incursion by the Israeli military on Gaza.
Maybe this incident provided Netinyahu an opportunity to go in while this incident was stealing the news.
He was wrong in the case of Sky News. (If that's the case that is).
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Ukraine Foreign Minister is making dramatic claims they have intercepted cellphone data of two Russian colonels chatting about the attack and that they now have reports that the aircraft turned out to be civilian and with many casualties.
The minister has claimed to have handed the phone number to reporters.
This data can be tailored to look like what they want it to, but if true, then Russia will have no choice but to distance themselves from the rebels. But if this doesn't hold up to independent scrutiny and proves to be faked for propaganda reasons, then good luck to Ukraine because that could trigger a full scale Russian invasion to remove the government.
If the Ukraine can get it to hold up, then that is going to pave the way for huge international support for them to go in and wipe out the pro-Russian rebels.
Whatever happens, this is going to escalate, because there is no way the Russians are going to sit back and allow it.
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Watching the UK Sky News for the past 2 hours.
They make the logical reasoning that the Russians and pro Russian rebels would have no interests in shooting down a civilian aircraft.
However, when i think deeper into it.
The Ukrainian government may however have interests as a propaganda stunt to encourage the pro-Russian rebels to stop shooting at their military aircraft.... Think about it.
I am very suspicious of the dialogue coming out of Kiev within a short time of this incident and the words they are using..... Like they already had a composed script.......very suspicious.
With satellite observation, and a guarantee that the US and others are already scanning the area for the presence of munitions capable of reaching the plane and the area it happened can be pretty much pinpointed. So it is not going to be too difficult to track back the satellite images with nice blue skies and in the middle of the afternoon.
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Lufthansa have just announced they will stop flying over this area. I guess others will follow. Shame they didn't all do this sooner.
Sent from my C6902 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app
The Brits had already a few days ago sent out an international recommendation and advisory that all airlines avoid that particular airspace.
The airlines obviously thought more about their economics than heeding the advice of the British.
Then this is what happens and as an instant reaction has now been globally recognised as a 'no go' zone.
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Why or why must the Shin faithful insist that any comment or action against them must be politically motivated?
Really, you think she's innocent, that not bothering to turn up for one single meeting she was supposed to chair, that all the comments about there being no missing rice or corruption, all the false promises to pay farmers was all acceptable?
But of course, you've reviewed all the evidence, witness statements in coming to your learned opinion.
The NACC believe there is enough evidence to indict her. She should come back and robustly defend herself. She has the money to hire the best lawyers, although explaining how not bothering to turn up and doing anything is not negligence is a tad difficult - and certainly not political motivated.
I have faith in no one and I have no reason to believe she is innocent.
There have never been any credible reports that rice has not gone missing.
Her government was blocked from paying the farmers by the EC.
I am waiting to review the evidence that will be presented at trial just as you are.
I agree with you wholeheartedly that these charges and the trial are and will not be politically motivated. It would be a crime to say otherwise.
I think you will agree with me that nothing in the past 15+ years in Thailand has been more political than the rice scheme itself.
I agree that Yingluck does have access to enough funds to hire the best lawyers in the world to defend herself. Will that be enough money, considering who she is up against?
For someone so sure of himself it must be quite embarrassing to get even the most basic facts wrong :-)
The payments to rice farmers, according to both the then PTP government,the banks and the rice farmer associations stopped in September 2013.
The EC did not get involved until Yingluck stepped down in November 2013, 2 months after the payments stopped.
See what happened there? :-D
Actually, I will expand on your comment.
The PTP stopped paying at the end of September, you are right there.
The EC did not get involved until December with the dissolution of the house and the first request by the finance minister for money from the EC was around January 20th which the EC rightly turned down because we were 2 weeks away from an election which would have given PTP a MASSIVE boost in popularity and a huge advantage at the polls.
They only ever asked once more which was in March for 20 Bn and it was granted by the EC.
So just goes to show what this guy knows about events.
Red history which is about as twisted and spun as you can get it.
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I said it early in this thread, others have said it, but I stick by my first impressions. This smells like a deal to let YS go and spare the country a divisive trial and perhaps imprisonment. YS is very popular in some circles. This would drag out for years and both sides would play the blame game.
It reminds me of when US president Nixon was impeached for crimes. Rather than stand trial he resigned. By US law the vice president Gerald Ford was immediately president, and he quickly pardoned Nixon to avoid a long public trial. Nixon was already ruined for any future. I thought it was best for the country which would have been embroiled in a long Senate trial when there were far more pressing issues at hand.
Maybe this is a similar desire of the current government to make it just go away. I don't know if I'm right, but time will tell. If it's true, I don't blame the general for wanting it to stop being a distracting focus.
I am not so sure a deal was struck to avoid division.
While in exile herself and big bro can continue to point fingers, claim political motivation, accuse the Dems of engineering this and keep up a campaign to create international contempt for the Junta et al.
I think it is better for all to go ahead with her prosecution with all the evidence laid out on the table for the whole world to see exactly what the Shins have been doing to the country and why the takeover was indeed justified.
Thing is... Now this is going to court, I am not sure exactly how the statute of limitations goes on this one.
I was of the opinion once you have been arraigned in court, then that dispenses with the SOL and you become a fugitive of the court and can be judged and sentenced in absentia..... if you are not yet arraigned, then the court can not proceed to trial and the SOL is still in effect. Meaning she could be free of all charges in 10 years.
Thaksin was already arraigned so he sentenced and now must serve his time, but Yingluck seems to be getting out of the country literally days before her arraignment.
Why are the NACC waiting till next week to send this to the court? What is wrong with Friday and have a special arraignment hearing before she goes?????
At least if she never returns, she can't use the SOL and must stay away for life.
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While apparently guilty as charged (yet to be proven in court), I can't help feeling that Yingluck had no say in the matter - a pawn in the game played by Thaksin and his powerful clique. Makes no difference though, she was officially in charge and will be held responsible.he would be foolish to return and face the music.
A 'knowing' and 'willing' pawn who aided and abetted one of the largest ripoffs of the public treasury in the history of Thailand. It is not too late to withdraw her permission to travel since the original permission was based on different presumptions. I can see how bail will be granted but her brother has demonstrated the family propensity to abscond.
There is still time to cancel her permission to leave.
That was granted BEFORE the NACC publicly stated that she is almost certainly a criminal, and needs to be charged.
If anything, I believe that Yingluck was told in advance that this ruling was coming about and thus initiated her plan to flee with her son. Her son being the big red flag here.
I don't really think this has been agreed between the perties to save face and save stirring up resentment. When she fails to return and makes all her statements to the foreign press, that will be enough to get their red supporters raging. It really won't work in the Junta's favour. They are not stupid, of course this will have been considered.
If you ask me... I would say huge sums of money have changed hands to get this permission. That's just the way it's done in Thailand, and they potentially have hundreds of billions to play with.
Politically motivated my ar-se... The evidence is all there to be seen, even the staunch red shirts up north can't argue that one. When 500 Bn is missing along with a load of rice, they know heads are going to roll, political motivation or not.
If Cameron, Hollande or Obama were caught with their hands in the till or even just guilty of complacency. We know full well they would all be languishing in a prison cell from the day the power seize happened and that goes for any nation, African and a selection of other nations would have executed them already. Would this be deemed as political motivation?... hell no. It is only because it is a Shin that stupid red supporters cling to that futile addage.
As for the title of the thread having already convicted her..... That is the funniest of the lot. Of course the NACC found that she is guilty and recommended she go to court for trial. They have the evidence of her 'guilt'. Simple as that really.
Stop trying to use 'political motivation' as a get out for every bent politician on the planet. It is beyond pathetic.
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How is it possible she can get a fair trial in Thailand ? The land of corruption. The land of corrupt justice ? The land where unfairness is the rule ? The land of people still waiting in their caves ? The land of people that do not want to familiarise with the rest of the world ? The land with several millions monks, hiding from criminal acts in their past. Millions of monks living on social security, from poor people. Millions of monks that really could work for the prosperity of Thailand and it`s citizens. I just ask ????
WOW!!!
You need to be very careful.
You can get in a heap of trouble with your anti monk slurs.
My wife was raging when she read that.
That is defamation of the highest order, and possibly well on a par with lese majeste in a country where Buddhism is pretty much a state religion..
My wife wants something done about your clear anti Thai/Buddhist comments and I am not going to stop her, although I did say you were just an idiot and not worth bothering with, but she is very very angry.
Not only that.... you just totally railed at Thailand in every negative dimension possible.
You may be given plenty of spare time to reflect on your hatred of Thailand and Buddhism.
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OK... So this budget has been slashed back to get approval, but in reality like most big budget projects will almost certainly over-run its estimates probably will be doubled. But let's be kind and say in the end it all costs around 500 Bn.
Next we will gauge passenger take up... Estimate 1000 passengers per trip again we are being generous here.
At 1000 baht a ticket, that will be 1 Mn baht per trip turnover.
Costs including fuel, staff, maintenance, taxes etc should easily soak up 50% leaving a 50% margin... again I am probably being more than generous here.
That gives the carrier a cool 500,000 baht per trip margin per trip.
Let's say there are 4 trips to BKK - CM and 4 trips CM - BKK daily 24/7 and 365 days a year.
That's 4 Mn a day profits.
That tells us break even point will take 125,000 days at the above assumptions.
It's only going to take 342 years to pull back the investment.
Even if I was going to be a lot more generous and quadruple all the figures it is still going to come out at 86 years, and the whole system will be long gone and humans will likely all be commuting in personal hover cars that run on water (Jetson style).
But then again we will likely see the first derailment in the first 12 months and that will be the end of that.
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I will wait for the first derailment at 300 KM/h with 1000 souls on board and that will be the end of it.
I certainly would not risk setting foot on it.
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Well with the AEC in 5 months, I hardly find this a starting revelation.
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Wonder if they will ask if they can go to Thaksin's party first..... seeing as the Junta are stupid enough to trust Yingluck to go.
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They simply cannot believe that the law is actually being applied.
Now the reality is that those who conformed with the order have probably snatched up the best spots in the other locations and the stragglers will be left with the crap.
Som Nam na.
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Burn them with the tusks, preferably inserted into them via an 'uncomfortable' orifice.
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Erm.....
Merging points, you have no choice but to cut across lanes, or you can't merge can you?
But that aside, all it takes is a little application of the law.
I think the authorities are actually starting to learn... slowly, but learning all the same.
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Probably all PTP ministers with their attitude being the familiar 'We can take what we want because the rules don't cover us'.
Yingluck can drop hers at the airport on her way into exile.
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Wow!!
How generous.
That must be costing them at least 70,000 baht.
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The FDA are a bunch of idiots themselves anyway. I am not surprised that many people attempt to circumvent them.
Even though in this case they seem to have a value, but for a lot of other products they are just money grabbing bureaucrats.
Trust me... I have experience with them. They refused to even recognise FDA approval on an FDA approved product.
That is how stupid they are.
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To all of you who wish her request be denied I also hope the next time you try to enter Thailand your request is also denied and see how you feel about it.
Ahh, the go home crew have woke up.
So those of us that think her request should be denied should also be denied re entry to Thailand? Why is that? Like YL we raped and pillaged this beautiful country on the orders of our older, greedy brothers did we?
Yet another sad post there bob.
Multiple tourist visa runners have more rights to stay in this country than any Thai who has torn this place apart, watched innocent people including toddlers slain in her name, wrecked the country's biggest industry to the point of collapse and cost the taxpayer about a trillion baht on her populist scams.
Oh and if we don't see her again, I bet she will be moaning to the western media that she is the victim of a military junta witch hunt who is framing her for false corruption charges so they could seize power for the ultra royalist yellow shirts.
Yawn.
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I'll come back, honest I will cause I want to face the enquiry regarding my role in the rice
scamscheme.NCPO - No way - never let her out of your sight, she is about as honest as her fugitive camel herding brother and we are well aware of the limitations of his honesty.
I don't think she'll come back. Maybe Gen. Prayuth senses this and sees her leaving Thailand as the best thing for the country. I hope this is the case. The last thing Thailand needs now is to have her case wrapped up in the courts. Thailand needs to forget the Shinawatra family and move on, uniting the country and becoming one again.
As long as there is a single Shin in this country, this cancer will continue to gnaw away at Thailand.
Putting Yingluck away for a good few years would have been much better for the country as it sends out a message that not even the PM is above the law.
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Last time we heard about cleaning the immigration status of illegal workers, it was about the Cambodian nationals => they went back home but Thais realized they badly needed them => Cambodians came back.
Same story here? No => Thais DON'T NEED English teachers from abroad because millions Thais speak a perfect English and can teach to the children.
Wrong
Millions of Thais do not speak perfect English. Maybe a few thousand do.
Please, have you not seen the poor written English in these TV forums--perfect English is hardly the question.
Erm..... Considering that probably 50% of the members on ThaiVisa are not English speakers as a first language, I have been quite impressed with the level of English ability across this forum.
The real dunces are those who don't realise that certain little detail.
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Don't most countries have qualifications and working visa requirements for teachers? What's wrong with Thailand doing the same?
OT: I am just going to take a wild guess here: unqualified students with ED visas of convenience will be next in the clearing out.
In case you have only just woken up, it comes down to money, qualified people can make more in other countries, why come to Thailand and settle for maybe 30000 baht a month. Thailand needs english teachers more than english teachers needing Thailand. Hope this isn't to hard for you to understand.
Actually, maybe I don't understand and perhaps you can clarify your point. So are you saying that Thailand should allow anyone who wants to come here to teach English, to do so illegally on a tourist visa waiver, earn money, not pay taxes and do so without a work permit? Should there be a special exemption of immigration and labour law just for English teachers, whether qualified or not?
You are right.... you don't understand.
Nothing in his post suggested anything near what you suggest.
But he is right. Thailand needs English teachers more than English teachers needs Thailand.
My heart goes out to all those who are settled with a girlfriend and assets here, now they have to walk away from the lot if they don't qualify for any of the other visas.
Thailand will certainly suffer, and there will e a hoo haa from the education system when all of a sudden they are minus 60 or 70% of their best English teaching options.
Most teachers in Thailand are NOT of the Thai qualification criteria. I have met enough to know that. But they do fill a void.
Also, the poster who claims Thailand won't suffer for not speaking English.... say the same in the next 20 years when almost nobody can speak proper English... Only the people born into high class families and the average farang isn't likely to be rubbing shoulders with those sorts.
This is going to drive up salaries for western English teachers, because it is a supply and demand thing... Bigger the shortage, higher the premiums. Once Thailand starts feeling the effects, the prestigious schools are going to snap up all the fully legal and qualified teachers and the ordinary schools are going to have to go without.
I personally know a retired Thai English teacher (retired) She is married to an Aussie and her English is crap at best.
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Yup... Has to be nerve racking.... will they?.... won't they????
MH17: Malaysia Airlines Plane Shot Down Near Ukraine Border
in World News
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It actually went down at around 8pm Thai time.