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  1. Yes. Then you are naive and foolish LL.... as this implies you would believe any accusation without evidence just because its reported on in the Thai and social media - thats shaky ground and it is that 'shaky ground' I am cynical of.
  2. A media report and an accusation is not fact because its in writing... you forget that. This is just an accusation for now... nothing seems to back up that accusation at the moment.
  3. Do you really think that you're in any position to be entitled to her CCTV footage, or to think that such expectation is reasonable, never mind be in a position to "pass judgement"? Yes I do... not from a personal perspective... But from the perspective of the general public. This is not a private accusation, but one which has been made very public. It is not abnormal by any stretch for such information (CCTV) to be distributed throughout the media.... infact, the distrubution of CCTV footage is common in such examples, leading to the question of why is it held back in this situation ???
  4. The world does not revolve around Asean Now, just because CCTV hasn't been made available to us gobsh!tes doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, AN is not a prosecutors office or a court. A bit silly that LL....... Forget about Aseannow - you are thinking too small... Why is CCTV not available for the media in general ???? Whenever CCTV is available, its nearly always the first thing we see as when full footage of an incident is shown it removes all doubt.... IF there were CCTV footage showing the Russian kicking the Thai lady it would be all over the media by now... I suspect is isn't because the CCTV shows a different story than the one we have been fed.
  5. Giving credence to a published report that indicates nothing false about it is not bias. Fair enough... Your credence to the veracity of Thai and social media information is no different to my cynicism of it. We have information reported.... While I'm sure an 'incident occurred'... I question the accuracy of the story and suspect that it has been presented with a degree of bias I am cynical of. The biggest hole I see in the story: - There is a photo from CCTV footage. - There is no video of the Russian attacking anyone. IF there is CCTV footage, then why is the attack not show... earlier you posted an unintelligent comment that its not up to the victim to please the AN readership... thats missing the point that whenever present... the CCTV footage is the first thing we usually see, so why not in this case.... this makes me even more cynical.
  6. 😂..............The thread is about a Russian bird assaulting a pregnant Thai shop owner.........Perhaps you should get onto who ever wrote the story for our attention.....😂 If we do it your way, nobody would post....... Remember, TVF/AN is not a court of law, it is a place to chew over what is in front of us, you have 😉 100% agree... TVF / AN is not a court of law... Which is why we have the luxury of discussion and opinion. My opinion (for the moment) is that without CCTV footage of the full confrontation that the accusation is somewhat empty... I do not buy into the story that the Thai lady politely asked the Russian to take off her shoes and the Russian refused and immediately became abusive and went into attack mode... There's always more to these stories.
  7. Because, in assault situations such as this, the last thing on the victims mind is ensuring that she satisfies the unreasonable expectations of Asean Now's criminal investigation bureau by checking that the police or media have released every frame of the CCTV. In assault situations such as this ??.... the assault is an unproven accusation... its not an assault situation. In accusation such as this, when CCTV captures something damning its pedalled throughout the media.... The absense of any CCTV footage brings the veracity of the accusation into question, particularly when there are screenshots of the CCTV footage. We've seen this plenty of times before when footage is clipped short and shows one part of a confrontation without presenting balance and the full story. Do you really think its unreasonable to doubt the accusation when there is no evidence yet CCTV was clearly running ????? Do you really think its unreasonable to want to see evidence (CCTV footage) before passing judgement ? Perhaps I am to cynical - but I just do not blindly believe the story presented by social media and Thai media when it is so absent of any fact.
  8. It is a thread, we have been given a story and a couple of photos of the Russian bird assaulter taken from CCTV, that's it......... Let's see what the future brings......😁 But you do seem to be blaming the Thai lady, when you don't know the full facts because of "your own personal story", now that doesn't cut, chum.... Perhaps I'm am Bias, I am certainly cynical when reading such reports given the current 'anti-farang' climate in social media in Thailand. You mentioned the 'Russian bird assaulter'.... There is no proof of assault... so your bias has shown through. We have one Thai lady who has made a claim of assault.... we have on photograph of the Russian lady standing in the shop. The story is one sided...... We don't even have any comment from the Russian's perspective... So yes, I am quite cynical about this story. You are correct, I don't have all the facts... Why don't we have the whole CCTV video from the shop ??? What makes me most cynical is that an accusation like this is being reported on as fact without any proof and then people are believing the reports. My point its the story is very one sided so far... With these issues there is a trigger point... and it would not surprise me that the 'trigger' point in this case is an unstable unhinged 'surly' Thai shop assistant going from zero to full on in an instant... I've seen this happen a few times - so of course... my own personal story... or more correctly, my personal experience influences how I interpret the story when its missing facts. Thus: before passing judgement on the Russian or Thai lady... we'd need to hear both sides of the story. Where is the full CCTV footage... surely that would be widely available if it really did show the Russian woman kicking the pregnant Thai lady.... (*is the Thai lady even pregnant, or is that a further cry for victim sympathy ?).
  9. Frits... You're a fool if you blindly believe every story you are reading now in Thai and social media.... It is often said... there are three sides to every story... "What he said, What she said, and the truth"... with all many of these 'farang behaving badly' stories circulating in the media right now, we are seeing very one sided reports....
  10. from genuine real "experience" or simply from what you have heard ? Have you any Idea what the conviction rate is by Thai courts for "normal" people ? That would explain their willingness to plead guilty regardless of whether they actually are or not He already quoted that the conviction rate is about 95%... ... This is general knowledge and widely backed up. https://thaipolitics.leeds.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/87/2022/01/McCargo-Punitive-Processes-AJLS-2021.pdf
  11. Why wouldn't she have reported it if she were the instigator ? When involved in an incident some people lack any ability to recognise that they are the instigator ? People get very indignant... It seems the Thai woman instigated a confontation by telling the Russian to get out she wasn't welcomed. - Did the shop owner first ask the Russian woman to take off her shoes ? Or.. - Did the shop owner just start yelling at the Russian, right off the bat ??? This was all on CCTV - why is there only one photo then ? Yes I do... Its happened to me... I find the shop assistants in area's of high tourist footfall to be quite surly on occasion... I just ignore them... but I have seen Thai's go from very calm to very angry over the most innocuous of incidents.
  12. Agreed.... But, in more 'backward' area's of Thailand its still the norm. I've walked into loads of shops with my shoes on then... - I've either noticed and apologised and taken off my shoes and left them by the door. - I've either noticed and apologised and been told not to worry about it. - Its been pointed out and I've apologised and taken off my shoes (no biggie). BUT... IF I walk into any shop and the shop assistant starts getting rude with me and yelling... I'm going to tall them to flook awf and walk out. In area's of high tourist footfall there is a 'familiarity breeds contempt' situation whereby many Thai's are fed up and perpetually angry at 'rude foreigners' so their skin is very thin and they get unjustly upset very quickly... This 'thin skinned' reaction is not uncommon in area's of very high tourist footfall. ----------- I recall looking at an item in a Thai shop (in Samui) and asking how much it was. Thank you... was my response. Then the shop assistant got angry and started telling me I'm a bad farang if I don't want to buy... she got agitated so I ignored her and walked out... no negotiation, no conversation - Just an agitated rude person nothing good at all was going to come of any further interaction.
  13. Are we getting to the stage where any altercation or negative interaction between a foreigner and a Thai is going to lead to an exaggerated accusation and subsequent social media which-hunt ??? There is clearly CCTV photographs... So why is there no video with the story ? Whenever there is 'hard unequivocal proof' of an incident (video) we usually see it..... ... So... is this 'kick made up' ?? where is the proof ?? ---- What really happened. - Russian walks into shop - Thai woman rudely shouts at her to get out she's not welcome - Russian woman yells abuse back - Thai woman doesn't like this an escalates Thai woman's contacts the police and social media playing the victim. Again - where is the video ??
  14. Thailand is not one of those countries. Agreed... and 125cc is not a limit either... the limits on two wheeled endorsements is usually more specific but related to mopeds and scooters that have very low power (equivalent to a 50cc moped etc). Whether the NZ had a license or not is irrelevant, they didn't stop when the police told them to... Either because... a) they ignored the request to pull over. b) they didn't see the request to pull over.
  15. Why on earth would they think that? IMO they are just stupid thugs that thought they could do what they liked, and thought wrong. If the NZ Guys have burned through a Police Check point and a policeman gives chase... If that Policeman becomes crazed and angry and fires at them (twice), then they are going to believe their life is in grave danger. Running was the stupid thing to do. Grabbing for the gun may have saved their lives. The video would appear to show that their (NZ Guys) sole intention is 'securing the gun'... They are not hitting or beating the Police officer, the NZ guy has him a hold and is grappling for the gun which is then handed to the 2nd NZ Guy who then appears to make the gun safe (and doesn't point it at anyone). IMO: The video shows two NZ Guys subduing a police officer who may well have shot them.... Clearly thats a very wrong thing do to in the eyes of the law, but have the NZ guys just saved their own lives ? Sometimes a sitation may require extreme action, was this one of those situations ? Yes, they should have stopped... the actions of the NZ guys at that point was stupid. But, once the situation had escalated was securing the gun the right course of action ? it may well have been.
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