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What is difference is proportionality. The US for example in Afghanistan made an effort to avoid civilian casualties. In recent times there have not been civilian bombing casualties on the level of the current war on Gaza. There are rules in war, and Israel is before the ICJ for violating these rules.

The RAF did bad things to Dresden in WW2. After that war the Geneva Conventions were agreed, including by Israel, not to harm civilians. Now Israel is on trial.

Then why is the ICJ looking at plausible genocide?"

What blows my mind is how 80% of Israelis still support this genocidal campaign.

This sounds pretty hysterical to me. You repeatedly have conflated a 13000 bodycount figure of Hama deaths claimed by Netanyahu with the Gaza Health Ministry figures now around 32000, which greatly understates the death toll since many people are buried under collapsed buildings, and the missing are not counted among the 32000. In the near future we may have many dying, especially children, from starvation, as well. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/netanyahu-says-least-13000-terrorists-among-palestinians-killed-2024-03-10/ The 13000 bodycount is propaganda, possibly collated from IDF reports of "kills". Do these "kills" include people said to be Hamas shot in hospital beds and the summary executions discovered in a mass grave at Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis? Those who died in hospital beds might be in the Health Ministry register since their identity was probably known, so there could be a small overlap between IDF bodycount and figures reported by hospitals.

You are the one trying to deny the truth. The claim of 13000 Hamas killed is just a body count. How many might be included in the 32000 registered fatalities is conjectural. Some overlap could have occurred. For example, the summary executions just discovered in a mass grave at the Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis might reasonably be expected to be added to the 13000 already claimed, but if identifiable they could also be included in registered fatalities.

It depends how you look at it. Back then the Palestinians were pretty defenseless against the Zionist militias committing atrocities. Why shouldn't the Arabs have come to their aid? Moshe Dayan and others from the Haganah militia were trained by Orde Wingate, a Christian Zionist British intelligence officer the late 30s. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Night_Squads : "The military historian Hew Strachan has described the tactics Wingate employed as a form of state terrorism,[5] and its mode of operation eventually to lead to allegations that Wingate had effectively organized these nights squads into Jewish 'murder gangs' or 'death squads'.[6][5] According to Israeli military historian Martin van Creveld, their training included "how to kill without compunction, how to interrogate prisoners by shooting every tenth man to make the rest talk;"

A one-way valve is also called a check valve.

Yes, the crimes for which the US is sanctioning them were committed in 2022 or before. When crimes are caught on video, so that the IDF cannot ignore them, they say that they will investigate, but there is no news of any investigation afterwards. Even the 2022 notorious murder of Shireen Abu Akleh, a Palestinian-American journalist, which was first obfuscated by the IDF but was soon called out by various news media and looked into by the FBI, the sniper group identified was not held to account, even by the timid Biden administration. The current prospect of having even more ultra-Orthodox soldiers being forced to serve in the IDF does not bode well for Palestinian lives. This can only change if the Zionist bubble is popped and Israelis are forced to confront the horror of their national crimes, starting even before the creation of the Zionist state. It might be a bit like the scene in Clockwork Orange, perhaps. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clockwork_Orange_(film)#/media/File:LudovicoMalcolmMcDowellAClockworkOrangetrailer.png In this scene the character was forced to watch a film with Beethoven's Ninth Symphony as the sound in a type of aversion therapy (satire).

Regarding the application of the Hannibal Doctrine on October 7th, this wiki gives some information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive#:~:text=A few days later%2C an,return to Gaza with hostages. There are reports in Israeli media: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-01-17/ty-article/.premium/unlawful-unethical-horrifying-idf-ethics-expert-on-controversial-hannibal-directive/ Just now it's being reported on BBC, etc that the US is putting sanctions on an IDF unit, the Netzah Yehuda battalion, which has been under investigation for activities in the West Bank before October 7th. Sometime after October 7th it was transferred to Gaza. So US aid cannot be allocated to this unit. Other IDF and police units are under investigation: https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-mulling-sanctions-against-other-idf-units-for-alleged-rights-violations-sources/

Not long ago China mediated in a resumption of Saudi-Iranian relations. The exchanges of fire between Israel and Iran were done for political purposes - saving face for both parties. The Gaza war has caused Jordan to withdraw its ambassador to Israel.

Your post has good points, but it now appears that the Israel war cabinet has taken the advice of many countries not to escalate. You are right that Israel always wants to make the final response, and it seems that Iran understands this. When Iran attacked I think that the participation of Jordan and others to mitigate damage to Israel was prudent so as to keep the hardliners in the Netanyahu government from getting traction in their campaign to have a major counterattack on Iran. I don't know whether Jordan and the GCC did so, but they should have told the Israel war cabinet that in the case of a major response by Israel they would not repeat the aid given when Iran attacked the first time.

You have to pay attention to how big the image files are. Jpg (photo) flles can be downsized with free software.

Don't forget the Christian Zionists at their back egging them on, so these selfish "christians" can have their rapture moment at the end of the world.

You should have given us the choice "probably not". Never say never.

The IDF does all kinds of war crimes. So here I was defending @Hummin who was responding to another of your claims.

Hummin said "They shot 3 hostages with white flag at Gaza?" The three Israeli hostages had escaped their confinement and displayed a white flag. Also they had stuck an SOS message on the wall outside the window of their detention room, but the IDF level of paranoia is so great that "shoot first" prevailed. You try to blame everything on Hamas, it seems. There was no firefight reported in this incident.

There was no forensic investigation in the kibbutzi or anywhere else to give absolute proof of how people died. Bodies were removed and examined later, so critical evidence from the scene is lost. Testimony of whistleblowers is all that we have. Nonetheless damage from heavy weapons suggests that Hamas et al did not do various destruction to buildings and vehicles ascribed to them.

Propaganda. There have been thousands of trucks waiting on the Egyptian side. For one so-called "contraband" item, such as a pair od medical scissors, the truck is refused entry. Also, only approved drivers can enter (at least before Biden got angry over WCK). When the BBC checked, there were only 80 such drivers, but they are not all available in place when the Kerem Shalom gate is opened.

There are many other links on this most recent implementation of the Hannibal Directive. Try Google.

If you google "starving kids in gaza" there are various YouTube videos. Also: https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/04/09/gaza-israels-imposed-starvation-deadly-children

WFP suspended their aid to northern Gaza. Is this COGAT claim more disinformation? COGAT is a unit of IDF. https://www.independent.co.uk/world/wfp-gaza-food-famine-suspended-b2499455.html "The UN said that 80 per cent of aid deliveries destined for northern Gaza were blocked by the Israeli army in January. The WFP had already suspended its aid deliveries for three weeks prior to Tuesday’s decision due to an Israeli strike on a UNWRA truck. " More chaos followed because desperate people mobbed their trucks in northern Gaza.

Reliable source????

Disinformation.

"No starvation" That's what Netanyahu's spokeswoman says. You must get your info from Israeli media.