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  1. BritTim - To be fair I think that given that these potential rules have been mooted since the summer of last year I suspect that many have used this period to address their overstay; certainly I took the hint and dealt with it. For those who haven't yet it would be somewhat of a gamble to assume that a period of grace may be allowed. If Art 44 is invoked then normal protocols of notice in the gazette etc are not necessarily guaranteed..My experience is that once the overstay has been cleared, even ones that are extremely long, immigration seems to consider the matter as closed. If those blacklisting rules do get introduced it will be a entirely different ball game so better to deal with it now while this window of opportunity still clearly exists.

    glio - I agree with you that anyone on overstay now should clear it up without delay. The new penalties could certainly be introduced with virtually no notice. I said a grace period would be smart, not that there would be one.

    However, some will hope for the best until faced with an ultimatum. Further, those who do not read ThaiVisa and who live in the sticks may not be aware of the pending changes. I would give these people a well publicized choice:
    • Do nothing and face severe consequences once the grace period ends
    • Leave, paying the find but avoiding blacklisting. This would allow people married here with limited funds to scrape together 30,000 baht to go to Savannakhet for a multi entry Non-O.
    • Leave with no fine but being blacklisted. This would provide a way out for some indigent individuals, trapped here because they do not have enough money, to leave.
    The carrot and the stick usually works better than either in isolation.

    Just a couple of questions ........

    1. Why would someone need 30,000 Bht to obtain a multi entry non "O" visa, based on marriage, from Savannakhet ?

    2. How would a person "without enough money" afford a flight out ?

  2. There are plenty of schools offering visas to study Thai cooking / Thai boxing etc

    I would imagine they're not going to ask you to make them a noodlesoup in a crowded immigration office so these "skills" would be pretty hard to test....

    Please PM me with a list of "schools" providing cooking or boxing education registered with the MOE which offer to support application for an ED visa .

  3. Thanks for all the answers guys !

    To clarify my situation : i want to long term visa to stay in Thailand for one year and i'm serious about wanting to learn so i'm trying two kill two birds with one stone.

    Then in one year i plan, as one poster suggested, to go to China directlty to learn there.

    @T100 : What do you suggest i should do, then ?

    @timmyp : they also test people learning japanese or chinese ? How would they know if they're good ot not ? (i mean, i can understand thai tests but for the rest..)

    Kid yourself not.

    There are many Chinese/Thai people who speak fluent "Chinese" .

    The only "long term" visa you might get is a multi entry Ed visa which you would have to obtain, with the correct school supplied paperwork, from the Thai Embassy in your own country.

  4. Another rumour for the treadmill..... but my source on this is pretty good.

    The current cap on overstay fines, 20,000 baht, will end 10th December...... no higher cap was mentioned. So anything over 40 days, you will be paying more...

    And if you are caught, and cannot pay, you will be getting locked up.

    Perhaps another flushing attempt..... like the subject of this old thread.

    An unconfirmed bar stool rumour ?

    Why post this nonsense ?

    He said his source is pretty good. Could be some high official in immigration.

    Those who spread rumour ALWAYS claim to have "a pretty good " source !

    That is just code for drunken bar stool gossip !coffee1.gif

  5. Another rumour for the treadmill..... but my source on this is pretty good.

    The current cap on overstay fines, 20,000 baht, will end 10th December...... no higher cap was mentioned. So anything over 40 days, you will be paying more...

    And if you are caught, and cannot pay, you will be getting locked up.

    Perhaps another flushing attempt..... like the subject of this old thread.

    An unconfirmed bar stool rumour ?

    Why post this nonsense ?

  6. Put it this way, no language school students are getting 12 month extensions for their visas. A three month extension, each time they go, is the best they can hope for. That's not the case with an ED visa from a university, where 12 month extensions are regularly issued. Why do you think that is?

    Nothing has changed and Universities do not issue Ed visas !

    Informal education sector "students" have never been been able to obtain anything other than a 90 day extension.

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  7. With limited funds your chances of staying in Thailand for a year are also limited.

    A METV would provide a stay of almost 9 months. Maybe you should speak to the Thai Embassy/Consulate about the possibility of your qualifying.for the visa.

    The only other option is a single entry tourist visa which will provide a maximum stay of 90 days.

    Further single entry tourist visas can be obtained from Thai Embassy's/Consulates in nearby countries.

    Back to Back 15 day border crossing is not a viable option.

    Make sure that you budget well ,ensuring that you always have the resource necessary to return home.

    You need to factor in the cost of food, accommodation, entertainment, scuba (not cheap) and transport.

  8. Working legally requires you to have the "B" visa and the work permit.

    Although it does not apply in this case the above statement is not true. You don't have to have a "B" visa to get a work permit. You can obtain one with a Non-O visa or and extension for marriage. Some offices will even give you one if you have a retirement extension, but very few. I have worked on both of the above and have never had a"B" visa.

    True but the Australian "first timer" who wants to live with two friends is unlikely to be married to a Thai person, nor is he likely to be aged 50+ !

    Your post is unhelpful to the OP .................

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  9. There is no "working visa".

    If you are not already in Thailand you perhaps should research the options outlined in the link.

    http://www.anyworkanywhere.com/whv_th.html

    Otherwise you will need to........

    1.Obtain job offer from a Thai Company/employer.

    2. Have your employer apply for a Work Permit for you (it is not a visa)

    3 Obtain, with paperwork supplied by the employer , a non imm "B" visa from a Thai Embassy/Consulate outside Thailand.

    Working legally requires you to have the "B" visa and the work permit.

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  10. You can get an ED visa to study Mandarin, yes. It has to be a school accredited by the Ministry of Ed. I got an ED visa to study Japanese. The same school offers an ED visa to study Mandarin. You will have to fill out forms showing that you are going to class everyday and stating what you learn in every single class. Everyone I know who got an ED visa to study Japanese, Chinese, and English in Thailand got tested at immigration and at the Ministry of Ed. Nobody ever tested me. The people who were faking it got rejected on their visa extensions because they couldn't pass the test. So either you have to be going to class for real, or you have to be proficient already in what you are claiming to be learning so that you can pass the simple tests they give you.

    It will cost about the same as studying Thai (i.e., you pay for the ED visa sponsorship and several months of classes).

    I don't know why people above are telling you that you can't do it, it's weird that they would feel the need to post about something they know nothing about, but that is common on this site.

    Strange !

    Where are these post which tell the OP "he can't do it" ?

  11. This 'talk' is fairly common knowledge, within privately owned language schools and universities. The gist of it is that only formal educational facilities (universities) will be able to obtain ED visas for students. Soon after the BKK bombing, the chief of police said there were 'too many foreigners in Thailand, on ED visas from bogus language schools'. This kind of move was inevitable.

    Just rumour then and nothing substantive.

    Do you have a link to reports of the Chief of Police saying " there were 'too many foreigners in Thailand, on ED visas from bogus language schools'" or is this just another unsubstantiated rumour ?

  12. There's talk about immigration stopping ED visas for institutions that aren't accredited by the MOE. In fact I'd be very surprised if that didn't happen. Basically, ED visas would only be granted for people studying at universities, I'd keep that in mind.

    Where did you hear this "talk".

    If an "informal" language school is not accredited by the MOA it is not possible to obtain an Ed visa or any extensions of stay.

  13. People should note these requirements set out by the Thai Embassy in Finland

    "9. Certificate of the profession
    If the applicant is employed: a certificate of the applicant current job
    If the applicant is an entrepreneur: certificate of ownership of the business, company registration documents
    10. Foreign citizen a copy of the residence permit which is valid for the entire journey to Finland to return." *
    * Translated by Google/Chrome
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  14. I think you will find that this "requirement" is not enforced other than in the case of a person moving to a different address on a permanent basis.

    I have lived in Thailand for a long time and have never reported short stays away from my permanent home.

    If staying in a hotel the hotel will report your presence but this does not change/alter the perminent address registered by Immigration

  15. Thank you, how about in Bangkok ? The non-o i don't need to exit the country every 3 month right ?

    With a multiple entry non "O" visa you have to leave every 90 days and then return for a new 90 day entry.

    A single entry visa will provide one 90 day entry.

    Only by applying for and being grated an "extension of stay" can you avoid having to leave the country.

  16. Probably best to ask in the language-school-forum about courses.

    http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/forum/182-language-school-courses/

    It is extremely unlikely that you will be able to obtain a one year Ed visa anywhere in the Region.

    The best available would be a single entry Ed visa which provides an initial 90 day stay. Extending that stay can be done at immigration but is dependent on paperwork supplied by the school.

  17. well a single entry tourist visa will do it.

    So basically am I gonna have to provide these documents even though I cant have them (for instance cause I dont work) in practice?

    thanks

    It is extremely unlikely that those documents will be required for a single entry tourist visa !

    As already said those documents are a requirement of the *New* multi entry tourist visa.

    There has been no change of requirement for the single entry tourist visa.

    *

  18. What are you looking for or hoping to obtain ?

    As from 13 Nov 2015 double/triple entry tourist visas are no longer available.

    The *New" multi entry entry tourist visa is only available from a Thia Embassy/Consulate in your own country and the paperwork you cite is linked specifically to this *New* visa . (The KL website appears a little confused ! )

    A single entry tourist visa can be obtained from any nearby Thai Embassy /Consulate but KL is perhaps not the best choice. You would be better advised to apply in Penang or Vientiane.

    (If you look very carefully the Laos Embassy demands the same "stupid" (sic) documentation for the *New* multi entry tourist visa)

  19. LOL. just read on Australias Bangkok Embassy page that they only accept Australia Visa applications from Bangkok from Thai Nationals/residents only

    "The Visas and Immigration section of the Australian Embassy in Thailand processes visa applications for people who resident in Thailand. Everyone except for Australian citizens will need to obtain a visa prior to travelling to Australia."

    http://thailand.embassy.gov.au/bkok/Visas_and_Migration.html

    You have misread/misinterpreted whatever that says.

    As a UK citizen/passport holder I can obtain an E visa very easily and have visited my son in Perth on many occasions.

    Great !

    We can just go and visit his son.

    I will say Im his dad best mate wink.png

    No chance!

    He has been pre warned and knows who my "best mates" are !

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