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Oh dear, I've just been catching up on the big enquiry thats going on in Scotland. Not a good advert for the Scottish Nationalists Party. They make the Tories look like choir boys.

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4 hours ago, nausea said:

It's all bluff. The only reason the UK wants to keep Scotland on board is to secure our borders; they can play this card all they like, Hadrian's Wall can be rebuilt, if push comes to shove.

The UK also doesn't want a tin-pot, one party, woke, socialist state being built right next door.

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Blimey, the salty old Scot nats are still banging on about a second independence referendum...

 

I see the latest poll is back in favour of remaining in the UK if the 'don't knows' are taken into account. (We all know that the 'don't knows' go with the status quo) Not that polls matter anyway as the whole thing has already been put to bed in 2014.

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1 hour ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

The selling point was stay in the UK to stay in the EU - leave and you have to start outside of the EU...  Scotland as a whole voted to stay in the EU... Therefore, it is only fair to ask Scotland to decide now that the UK has left...  If Scotland were truly sovereign in the UK Union... they would not have to ask to hold an official referendum.   Things change, and as a consequence an opening was made for the sovereignty question to come up again... If not for Brexit, it truly would have been a once in a generation referendum... but those are the breaks... now it is time to live with them.

I disagree. It is incorrect to say that the selling point was to stay in the EU. There was a lot more at stake than EU membership and as far as I can rememeber the Scottish electorate were well informed of all of the possible consequences their vote would have.

The truth of the whole matter is that the losing side cannot accept that they lost and will look for any excuse to try and change that. The EU argument is just convenient for them at this particular time.

It was not a 'once-in-a-lifetime' (unless the nationalists lost, then we'll have another every few years until we win) referendum.

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47 minutes ago, Sujo said:

That should be a matter for scotland to decide, not england.

You still don't get it. The Scottish already decided to remain part of the UK when they had their 'once-in-a-lifetime' independence referendum. The seperatists lost by a huge margin too.

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38 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

Yep, the English can take the moral high ground ????... I don't know how many times I heard anti-German (or in some cases anti-French sentiment) when I worked in London...

That's just banter. Personally, I think the Brits and the Germans are the most alike out of all the European countries, and as for the bloody French, they give us as much stick as we give them. 

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3 hours ago, Sujo said:

Then let scotland decide if it wants to leave. Then you are happy.

It was not the English who gave permission for the Scottish to have their 'once-in-a-lifetime' independance referendum, it was the UK Government of the time. The nationalists lost by a big margin. They just can't seem to move on from their loss. It's sad I know.

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1 minute ago, RayC said:

 

I believe that examples were being sought of anti-English sentiment. No need to look any further.

It appears to be fashionable to hate the English after Brexit. The SNP feel emboldened with the backing of some butthurt Europeans.

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2 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Like I said, that’s up to the Scottish people to decide, not for the British, same as no EU country told you that you “don’t live in a neverendum country”. 
 

 

You should sign up for indoctrination by the SNP, they are looking for people like you. Doesn't matter that you are not Scottish / British, they just want your vote and hatred of the "Little Englanders".

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1 minute ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

You demand the Scottish people should be denied a vote because you consider it democracy when you can only vote once in 40 years. I pointed out that your definition of democracy is nothing the Scottish people need to care about. 

No, sorry. Still no clue.

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12 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Yes, like I said: you made that up. But what’s right for you isn’t something the Scottish people need to care about. 
 

 

 

I'm not even sure what point you are trying to make, but whatever dude. Be happy.

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23 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

No, it’s not, you just made that up. It certainly wasn’t the case when the EU did not tell the UK that democracy is to respect the result of the once-in-a-lifetime referendum they had in the 70ies. It certainly isn’t the case when you elect a new government every four years. 

LOL! 40 years between referendums seems about right to me.

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1 hour ago, RuamRudy said:

 

That the majority of the Scottish electorate have changed their minds is entirely their right to do, no matter how much of a hissy fit you might throw. 

 

Its democracy in action, even if you cannot see it or choose not to believe it. 

I'm bored with you now.

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17 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

I never said that the withdrawal of Scotland from the UK is off the table. Clearly it is seen as a preferable option by the majority. You may disbelieve the polls (the very basis for your particular thread) but we will see soon enough.

What this whole thing boils down to is that you, along with your SNP mates, do not respect the democratic decision that the majority of the Scottish electorate made in their referendum in 2014. I pity what an independent Scotland would be with the likes of you and your lot in charge.

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4 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

Of course the result is respected. We are still in the UK. If you want us to be quiet and stop debating better options, that is the complete opposite of democracy. 

That's fantastic. Would you mind letting the SNP know that? Because, honestly, it appears from outside that their only goal is breaking up the UK rather than building a better one.

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6 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

I am glad to see that you have time on your hands to tell Scots what form of democracy they must accept. 

 

Now, can you tell us all about this constant barrage of anti-English propaganda you mentioned? 

Democracy is respecting the result of a 'once-in-a-generation' independence referendum. End of story. 

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1 hour ago, RuamRudy said:

 

 

This is clearly a subjective take, and I am sure you will find people in all four nations who would disagree. It just so happens that more than 50% of the electorate in Scotland also disagree.

 

Incorrect! The result of the independence referendum was 55/45 against the nationalists. You lost. I know it stings, I felt the same kid of pain after the Brexit referendum, but you have to move on. The results of some Mickey Mouse pollster on twitter does not matter. The result of the referendum in 2014 is the one that matters.

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20 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. I am more than happy to return to your question later, but we have been waiting breathlessly all day for your great reveal - this constant barrage of Anti-English propaganda from the SNP. Go on, share with us these terrible slurs that they issue constantly. 

I haven't got time to document it for you, but you know it's there. The SNP and their fanatical members are toxic, and I just hope that they never achieve their goal of dividing and splitting apart this wonderful country of ours.

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1 hour ago, RuamRudy said:

Good to see that the Welsh are increasingly shaking off this absurd notion that they are too small or too poor to be the masters of their own destiny. 10 years ago the SNP had 6 MPs - if they follow the same path that Scotland took, the Welsh have a very exciting, positive future ahead of them as an independent country. 

 

Welsh independence: More people in favour, Plaid say

The level of support for independence in Wales is similar to that in Scotland's a decade ago, Plaid Cymru's leader has claimed.

Adam Price told the BBC's Andrew Marr Show "more and more" people were supporting the idea because of the state of the economy and the level of inequality in Welsh society.

Mr Price said independence would put Wales "on a better path".

When are you going to shake off the notion that the Scots and Welsh are victims? It really is pathetic. The UK is a fantastic country that works well for all four nations. It affords all citizens the chance of a decent education, decent free healthcare and a decent standard of living. What more do you want?

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On 2/11/2021 at 7:08 AM, RuamRudy said:

Can't remember when the last poll was conducted in Scotland which should support for the union? No, me neither. 

 

But here is the 21st consecutive poll showing majority support for Scottish independence. 

 

 

Polls are boring, however, they are narrowing and very very close despite the constant barrage of anti-English propaganda, political point-scoring and disinformation from the cult.

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12 hours ago, tebee said:

It's now the new post-brexit generation....

Brexit has nothing to do with it. The cult of the SNP nationalists are like children just stamping their feet because they didn't get their own way in 2014.

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10 hours ago, Sujo said:

Of course not.

 

Some on here dont even want scotland to have a say in what it wants.

They had a say on independance in 2014. A 'once-in-a-generation' referendum. The nationalists lost 55/45. END OF STORY (for a generation anyway)

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33 minutes ago, Phulublub said:

Wrong.  For example, I voted to stay.  I am not Scottish.  Polls indicate that the majority of Scots who voted did indeed vote the leave.

 

PH

polls shmolls

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18 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

You are incorrect in your statement there, Nice Guy. The majority of Scots voted to leave the UK in 2014. 

 

But as for a repeat: we can have as many as we wish - or do you not like democracy? 

 

 

If your statement is correct, wouldn't Scotland be an independant country now? If I remember correctly the result was 55/45 stay in the mighty UK.