NorthernRyland

I used to work &0 a week too. I don't miss those days.

This is where it's questionable to me. For all intensive purpose he owns the house and has full title to it. Is that not against the spirit of the law? A few weeks ago I saw a story in Chiang Mai where an entire Chinese sub division got busted for fraudulent use of Thai nominee controlled businesses (can't find the link now). If it's so easy to simply to get a usufruct why didn't they just do that? Don't bother making a company or even transfer the land to a new owner. Simply go to the land office and make a usufruct and now the foreigner has full rights? I wonder if the land office is fudging the law in order to issue these in the first place.

what he did was kind of sneaky, got the usufruct then married after all the documents were signed. The woman was ok with it apparently. I'mm just curious what would happen in court if they got divorced and contested the house.

but can it be your asset if the laws prevent foreign ownership? I question they would hold up in court.

I'm giving the wrong impression here. I don't mean Europeans aren't criminal, I simply observe a strong trust in laws within the Europeans (I mean American, Canadian etc... too) when compare to the Thai people. In the mind of the Finnish guy Jay he has a piece of paper which gives him a sense of security because he believes the system will protect him. Thai people in my observation don't have this same trust because they know there is a corruption in the officials and the paper is only as good the person willing to enforce it, which may never happen. I've never gone through the legal system in Thailand but I don't trust it because I see the Thai people themselves don't trust their authorities. That's my only point.

The idea is he gets to sell the house, keep 100% of the profit then have his name removed, nothing the Thai national can do right? That feels like ownership to me and why I'm skeptical if a judge would see it any different.

Ok here is that video I saw about the paper work. I'm very skeptical you can get around Thai laws this easily even if the lawyer says it's legit. Good luck to the guy though.

Not sure what other documents he signed but he was very sure of himself and his legal work. I think, he thinks if he gets divorced he can own 100% of the land and sell it at his leisure. If you can't sell the land and you can only inhabit it it's even more worthless because then you're stuck with her family in some little soi.

No idea what you're even talking about. Laws in Thailand are often seen as a mere suggestion and can be gotten around. That's my observation at least.

You seriously want to go to bat for the Thai's and their adherence to laws and legal culture? Seriously?

Ok so the prenup part is something I ASSUMED because he took this sneaky route of building the house and getting the usufruct BEFORE he was married. He didn't say anything about the prenup but I have to assume he would do that too because it seems like what he's doing is being clever with the law and getting to own land in Thailand without a Thai national being involved. This is the crux of the issue and what I'm skeptical of.

The mind of a child. Welcome to Thailand.

I was watching house build videos on YouTube and came across this Finnish guy who has built a home in Buriram in the village of his (then) girlfriend and now I see he's gotten married. When I say in the village, I mean he's surrounded by her extended family and even sharing a water main with them. The very idea makes me cringe but very well. This is interesting to me because earlier before they were married he an acquired a usufruct on the new property and now since getting married I assume he's signed a prenup with the 25 year old Thai girl. Is the Finnish man very clever and beaten the system of foreign land ownership in Thailand or is he trying to beat the legal system by following the letter of the law but not the spirit of the law? It seems everything is well and legal but personally I don't trust Thailand (or Thai people in general) to strictly adhere to laws in the same way Europeans do. My guess is that if there is a divorce the property will still be contested despite all the documents. I have no evidence for this but it just "feels" that way given how easy it was for him to effectively skirt the law. For example it could be left to the judges discretion and if he seems this as a clever way to circumvent the law.

My guess is she had a pseudo-spiritual mental health crisis and become a guru and took an Indian nickname. This sounds mental but I've seen it happen before in real life. Yes these "world traveler" people really do this.

No, I wanted to know if this was an actual Portuguese woman or an Indian with a passport.