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1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:
You don't mention the drop down box option, as if it isn't important
I did, I actually wrote (first part of the third paragraph):
QuoteThen to make a simple transfer, I just use the mobile TW APP, input the amount I want to transfer, click on the recipient account, choose the reason for the transfer and and the method I will use to make the payment.
There are four parts to completing that part of the transfer. All must be completed and you can't continue without completing all of them. They are therefore all equally important.
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1 minute ago, Jip99 said:8 minutes ago, chang50 said:
You might not believe this but last month I did a transfer that took 5 mins from TW receiving my money to it appearing in my Thai bank.
2 minutes is my quickest.
That said, yesterday I got caught up in the “Your Transfer is taking a bit longer.....” and it arrived this morning.
I have found that if I start the transfer before 8:00am Thailand time I will receive the second email within a hour to confirm the transfer has arrived at my Bangkok Bank and can download the PDF to check it was a direct transfer that will have a FTT code. Bangkok Bank always update individual account at 2:00pm so that's when it actually shows in the account and can be used.
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12 hours ago, gk10002000 said:
I started to open an "account" with transferwise to check out how they set things up. I didn't get too far because I was not ready to give them all my personal Information yet. I presume you somehow indicate the personal bank account you want the funds to come from, and then later you enter the Thai bank account you want the funds to go to. I note they ask for a mobile phone number. That may be problematic since my USA phone and number probably will not work in Thailand. Do they send confirmation or verification code notices and things that you are required to enter when doing transfers? Or do you just log in from a computer somewhere? Also, do they allow you to set up repeat transfers, like once a month on the 15th for example?
I'm from the UK so there may be minor differences in the setup and using TW in the US but this is how to set up and complete simple transfers.
Once you've supplied your basic details they will open a simple TW account for you. They will give you your own TW account number (which is also used as a reference number for all transfers and correspondence) plus their bank account details for you to send the money to them. I gave my Skype (UK) phone number when I first set the account up and don't think I was asked for a mobile number, but I set my account up well over two years ago so that may now be a requirement. I've never given them my UK bank account details, but when sending money to them there is obviously a record created of where the transfer originated so that will record your bank details in their system via a 'backdoor' method. I prefer to initiate sending the money from my account as opposed to allowing somebody to pull the money at their instigation because I feel I have more control, but that's just a personal preference. When you make your first transfer you input the receiving Thai bank account details and those details are automatically remembered for future transfers. you can add other receiving more receiving bank details if you wish.
Then to make a simple transfer, I just use the mobile TW APP, input the amount I want to transfer, click on the recipient account, choose the reason for the transfer and and the method I will use to make the payment. I choose Bank Transfer, switch to my UK banking APP, select send to TW and add the amount before returning to the TW APP to confirm money has been sent. The whole process takes me less than two minutes. within 2-3 minutes I receive an email confirming the transfer has been received along with a link to track it's progress, then, once the transfer arrives at my Thai bank I get a second email to confirm this and a link to a PDF showing the complete transfer process.
There is also the option of opening a TW Borderless Account, keep that in credit and top it up as and when, then just transfer funds to your Thai account when it suits you.
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5 hours ago, JAS21 said:
Well for me anyway.
And me. only ever had one hiccup and that was during the software upgrade in early June.
Did this months transfer at 7:30am yesterday the 1st and it arrived in my BKKB account (FTT) at 2:00pm .........Just six and a half hours later.
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1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:If concerned about people who are working here illegally they should go after those hiring them to work here.
What is occurring at some airports appears to be some immigration officers that are making up their own rules and requirements since most denials are not based upon any fact.
I agree, if somebody is caught working illegally, the employer should also be prosecuted, and given a large enough sentence to deter others from employing people illegally.
But, are you suggesting people should be allowed into Thailand UNLESS THE IO can show proof the the individual is/intends to break the law in Thailand? The onus is on the individual to show/prove they have the correct permission to stay/visa for their stay in Thailand, have sufficient funds available and can/will comply with all the rules for the entire length of their visit. The onus is NOT ON THE IO TO PROVE ANYTHING, suspicion is enough.
If the IO has any suspicions at all he is entitled to refuse entry.
While we all know immigration rules have been lax, to say the least, in the past, things are changing and becoming more strict and we are all suffering for it, regardless of the type of permission of stay we are using. Every time we sympathise to others, who aren't complying with immigration rules, and suggest (questionable) ways round them staying in Thailand we are (potentially) making it more difficult for the rest of us (who are legal) by having to comply with ever more stringent rules in the future.
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14 hours ago, onera1961 said:
One can buy a Thai Driver license for 3K baht.
And, if checked against the police database, would they show up as genuine or an illegal copy?
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On 9/24/2019 at 12:00 PM, Knocker33 said:
I wonder what they would do if we all just refused to report .
Probably simply refuse your next extension application.
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11 hours ago, Neeranam said:
I think it is terrible having someone with no sense of distance, ie sight disabled driving on the roads.
Drunks would fit into that category but they're even more dangerous on the roads.
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From the Royal Thai embassy website in London the non 'O' visa options:
"O" To visit family or friends in Thailand, voluntary job, retirement, medical treatment, to attend judicial process, to work as diplomat's housekeeper If your father is in receipt of a UK state pension he/they can get a 90 'non O' Visa in London with proof of that pension then, when the required funds have been transferred into his own bank account, just apply for an extension based on retirement.
If not in receipt of a UK state pension it's possible he/they could apply for a non 'O' visa to visit family but, with all the recent changes, I'm not sure what the exact rules are now.
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Its not necessary to have a second form of ID most of the time but, for most needs in Thailand, It's acceptable and far more convenient to carry a plastic Pink ID or Thai DL which is a convenient size for your wallet,hard wearing and unlikely to get damaged rather than carrying a Passport that, size-wise, is inconvenient to carry and, by construction, is easily damaged. In my opinion, it's far better to keep the passport at home, locked in the safe, in good condition and only removed when necessary.
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2 minutes ago, tlandtday said:
Some of you guys are not seeing the clear picture. So you think an undesirable criminal element intent on being in Thailand is going to give a rats ass about a no o visa? They will simply enter on a 30 day visa and overstay. How does this solve anything?
So are you suggesting then that the visa system is made more difficult to ensure all of these undesirable criminal elements are caught?
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are you suggesting all visas should be scrapped to allow every Tom, Dick and Harry come and go as they please ????
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11 minutes ago, jacko45k said:
I couldn't get away until projects were reaching completion.
And out of curiosity, how long were they? plus how long were the on/off rotas?
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4 minutes ago, DrTuner said:
You need to get a re-entry permit or the extension process gets cut. After the extension is done, you'll need another re-entry to travel again.
I fully understand the re-entry process. He would simply get a multi re-entry stamp at the same time as his visa is approved. Last as long as his extension is valid. Then another one to cover the under consideration period, if needed.
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1 minute ago, jacko45k said:
If he can get up to a month perhaps. My experience of these types of contracts was there is no extra time off until the end of a contract. Having it available every year at the same time is perhaps optimistic.
The original post I was quoting on suggested that post had a 4-5 week on/4-5 week off rota so tagging a 1-2 week holiday would, I would have thought, be acceptable. Are you saying people on offshore jobs aren't entitled to any annual leave?
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3 minutes ago, jacko45k said:
The consideration process is usually a matter of minutes for a retirement extension.
For a marriage extension there is a one month approval and a permission to stay is given for that, and an re-entry permit can be obtained. Coming back at the end of that month to collect a marriage extension is a problem.
I understand the difference and a retirement extension is not available to anybody under 50 anyway. They can get a re-entry permit if they have to leave Thailand before the consideration period is completed, which is usually about 30 days. But it's only once a year so what's wrong with tagging a week or two weeks holiday onto the leave time spent in Thailand to ensure the consideration is completed before returning to work. Then they don't need to leave first. I know it's not an Ideal situation and would take organising, but it's the price of that type of job.
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On 9/7/2019 at 11:55 AM, Tanoshi said:
Because oil workers are not in Thailand long enough to process marriage extensions.
They could apply for extensions based on retirement, but would still need a Non O Visa initially, but again there is no guarantee they would be in Thailand to process the extension, it depends on their work rota's.
So are you saying they can't leave Thailand while under the consideration process?
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1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:
Did you provide to Kasikorn your Bangkok Bank account number? or transaction details? or both? and they found it
Yes. I actually gave them a copy of the PDF that TW supply with each transfer we make, highlighted my BKKB account and added the branch, along with my address and phone number. Left it with them and they phoned me back a few days later to tell me I could collect the CAR from that branch anytime. Can't remember whether it cost me 100 or 200 baht.
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48 minutes ago, Max69xl said:
But even when tagged, a transfer to a BB account can get routed through one of the other banks, and that's what TW says themselves, it can happen.
Of course TW can't guarantee 100% that all transfers will go directly to our BKKB accounts every single time, but, what they have done is arrange with their three partner banks that, if on the rare occasion there is a 'rogue transfer' those Thai banks will provide a Credit Advice Receipt as proof of origin (and that works, I've already done it).
Prior to January this this year, when Immigration changed the rules, it wasn't necessary to have any transfers sent with an International code but, since January I have closely followed TW's advice when making transfers. In Total I have made EIGHTEEN transfers, with all but one arriving directly in my BKKB account and having the required FTT code in my account.
The one transfer that didn't was in June while TW were doing their software upgrade and it arrived via Kasikorn. TW and BKKB both told me how to get a CAR and, when I went to Kasikorn, they knew what I needed and supplied it.
You say you have been using TW for a long time so I assume you have also spoken to them in great depth, as I have, and been given the same advice as me and many others. So out of curiosity, since January:
Have you followed TW's advice on tagging to request they use the correct Thai bank?
How many transfers have you made since then while using their advice?
How many have gone to your BKKB account with the correct code?
How many transfers have ended up going to one of their partner banks and when were they?
Were you able to obtain a CAR to cover that/those rogue transfers by following TW/BKKB advice?
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16 hours ago, ChiangmaiRob said:
I did actually spot it before I left the consulate but I thought, what the hell, nothing to lose!
I am also still in HCMC and could go back to the consulate and inquire, but to be perfectly honest, I'm willing to give it a go and see what happens. I'm in and out of Thailand and Vietnam on a regular basis and if I get pulled up at immigration and told the visa is not valid, I'll simply get a 30 day stamp and head back to HCMC after that and get it sorted at the consulate.
I wonder if Immigration might treat it as a possible forgery rather than a misprint at HCMC and want to investigate further. Will they give you a 30 stamp still while they're checking?
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52 minutes ago, elaxjt said:
Before I used to get a Non-O ME as I always have one way tickets into Thailand, just wondering what my options are now that the government have removed the ME Non-O.
What's wrong with getting a marriage extension and multi re-entry permit.
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1 minute ago, BritTim said:1 hour ago, sumrit said:
So are you stating that, if somebody doesn't have 800k in the bank, all they need to do is contact an agent who will provide genuine bank documents showing the original seasoned 800k PLUS genuine documents showing that money has stayed in the same account for a further three months AND 400k has remained for the remainder of the year. And FINALLY all of those geniune documents will be verified electronically by the bank if required?
Checking bank details electronically would remove the original IO from being able to update the suspect extension details manually and the expat could be tagged as not abiding by the rules.
No. The 800,000 baht is temporarily deposited in your account, and you get a genuine bank letter to the effect that it is there. The senior responsible official in the immigration office uses his discretion to waive the seasoning requirement. The 800,000 baht is promptly removed from the account. What happens after 90 days I am not sure. Most likely, immigration "forgets" to check when agent assisted extensions are involved.
I understand how the agent
fiddlesystem works, even down to seasoned white lie at the moment. I was suggesting that in the future, if electronically checking the accounts throughout the year with the banks own records, that could be done separately and remotely by a separate dedicated department with the 'friendly IO' not able to be involved, so the originalgenuinemanufactured Bank documents would stand out like a sore thumb. -
1 hour ago, onera1961 said:On 9/6/2019 at 12:30 AM, likerdup1 said:
Beware, anyone using an agent who is counterfeiting bank letters or using a "liason" at a bank who is making false bank letters. Immigration will be electronically confirming banking details in the near future or calling the bank to confirm the account numbers and balances.
How do you know that? 99% agents don't counterfeit any documents. All documents are valid.
So are you stating that, if somebody doesn't have 800k in the bank, all they need to do is contact an agent who will provide genuine bank documents showing the original seasoned 800k PLUS genuine documents showing that money has stayed in the same account for a further three months AND 400k has remained for the remainder of the year. And FINALLY all of those geniune documents will be verified electronically by the bank if required?
Checking bank details electronically would remove the original IO from being able to update the suspect extension details manually and the expat could be tagged as not abiding by the rules.
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2 hours ago, Captain 776 said:
I Have lived here 14 yrs and have always done everything at Immigration myself.
Chiang Mai is so organized now, it makes no sense to use an Agent.
One thing that would benefit all of us IS......if Thai Immigration website had a precise checklist of what is required for each type of Visa and keep it current.
Chonburi Immigration have done exactly that. They have issued an App via Android (search for 'imm-q') with an accurate checklist of requirements for each extension they issue. So both Jomtien and Si Racha now have the same checklist with no variations. It now needs all Immigration offices to do the same.
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5 hours ago, cauldlad said:
The UK police can only gain access to a bank account after obtaining a court order.
And you think that's difficult or unusual for the UK Police??? I can assure you it's not.
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Yes, there are several options in that drop down box. But not everybody would choose the 'funds for long stay in Thailand' option. Do you expect me to list all of them instead of just saying you must choose a reason for the transfer without knowing his intentions????
I was replying to a poster who was wary of opening a TW account because he was unsure of the system. There was no indication of why he might want to use their services, and he certainly didn't mention highlighting an international transfer was required. So I simply advised him there was a choice of options. It's then up to the poster I was replying to to choose the option that best suited his needs.
Because of his uncertainty, I posted a guideline on the simple process to successfully open an account and do a simple transfer using TW. If the poster requires any more detailed information he only has to ask (whether it be on the open forum or by PM) I will be more than happy to try and help him, as I'm sure many other will also.