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  1. 1 hour ago, Anton9 said:

    Fearmongerer like to show these deaths numbers but they forget to specify that the vast majority were people who were going to die anyway.

    Average age of deaths is 80 years old with multiple comorbidities, a very high percentage of the deaths in the west were in nursing homes.

    Try comparing life expectancy in Thailand with many western countries.

    100% of the people who have died in this pandemic were going to die anyway. And everyone else, too

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  2. On 5/16/2020 at 2:16 PM, Thomas J said:



    I have no problem not having a meal without alcohol.  I just wondered if there was any logic whatsoever to the policy.  As mentioned it would seem as likely that you would get coronavirus sipping a glass of water as you would sipping a beer.  Yet the ban was instituted as part of the coronavirus response.  This one sounds as logical as banning people from the beaches where it has been incontrovertibly shown that sunlight, fresh air, and warm temperatures kill the virus yet the government locked the beaches down. 

    Alcohol does not make people any smarter. It m tends to make people take more risks.


    Beaches and bars are places where people tend to congregate, and party.


    It would be impossible to quickly implement a comprehensive system for dealing with the virus, and have it please everyone, and make sense to everyone. There are bound to be mistakes and rules that don't make sense.


    I'm not saying the Thai government has done a wonderful job, but it's not an easy situation.


    Personally, I like to sit in an open air bar every few weeks. I hope they come back online at some point. But if alcohol disappeared from my life completely, I wouldn't miss it. There are literally thousands of more important things to focus on, but to each his or her own 


  3. Smokers are an estimated 1.4 times more likely to have severe symptoms, and ,2.4 times more likely to need a ventilator, ICU, or die from Covid-19 based on linted data.




    There's limited data on Covid-19, but smokers are about twice as likely to get the flu, and have higher mortality rates. Smoking had long been known to impede immune system responses and cause problems in a number of respiratory diseases, if not cause them outright.

  4. 10 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

    Its a serious disease that is no more serious than any other of its ilk (flu) that spreads in densely populated areas and kills off the old, every year.


    But it is also a political excersize, especially in the USA and its relations with China that folks can see unfolding about them. Thats where the fear and angst and hype come from.


    In essense, its the first shot in a new Cold War. China fired up. 

    Every legitimate statistic on this virus shows it is currently many times more deadly than the flu. You have to completely ignore facts and reality to think otherwise.

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  5. 13 hours ago, Jingthing said:

    Men smoke more, drink more, and avoid medical attention more than women and that surely is related to their increased risk at least somewhat. Chinese men in particular smoke an awful lot.

    I was reading yesterday the China has one of the highest percentages of smokers on the planet, yet only 3% of the women smoke. That means an awful lot of the men smoke.

  6. It's virtually impossible for it not to be almost everywhere in Thailand, by now. A cursory look at what has happened in other countries, a little math, and the fact that the government has already been caught lying, and the fact that few people are being tested should make that plain as day.


    Expect the numbers to explode as testing becomes available. Read some of of the articles about how many people in Wuhan had it, compared to how many they thought had it, and you can come up with some estimates.

  7. A report I read this morning (I don't remember where), said 3 Danish, and two Chinese from Wuhan. No timetable, but it's obvious they were not telling the truth.


    1. Some people believed government claims that no one had been discovered in Phuket with the virus
    2. Some people took action based on this data
    3. Some people may die as a result

    How about some legal charges (accessory to murder, or the Thai equivalent?) against these liars?

  8. 50 minutes ago, simtemple said:

    Unless I missed it, that article says that Covid-19 can be transmitted in hot and humid weather. It doesn't say whether the rate of transmission is slower, faster, or the same.


    I read something similar in a CDC article. They said that yes, it can spread in hot weather, but no data on whether it decreases the R0.

  9. 4 hours ago, darksidedog said:

    I note the Koreans are waiving any issues regarding Thais immigration status, and offering a full amnesty, as they see the threat of the virus as being way more important. Be interesting to see the reaction here when someone on overstay is found to be infected, or wishes to leave citing virus fears.

    Koreans had been offering amnesty to illegal Thai workers for at least a year, already -- well before Corona.

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  10. 42 minutes ago, Guderian said:

    I'd certainly agree with that, I've given up on mine altogether until the air quality improves and I'll stick to using the car, though I don't suppose the car's air con filter is much use at removing the PM2.5 particles, is it

    I think there's probably some benefit from being surrounded by a car. It might take a while for the exhaust to work it's way in at a stop light.


    You might be able to add some of the 3m filtrete sheets to the vents in your car, if it worries you. I added them to my AC until in Chiang Mai, and it brought down the AQI measurably, but not nearly as much as a dedicated air filter.

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  11. Here's what I've learned from looking at this issue over the past 3 years, and taking a meter to various places around the country.


    The health risks of air pollution are not limited to lung cancer and emphysema. Air pollution also increases the risk of heart disease, stroke, and dementia. While there's an argument for just living life and not worrying too much, stroke and dementia would put a damper on that happy life. It makes sense to take reasonable precautions to prevent them.

    You wouldn't notice some of these medical problems until it was too late. So, people saying "I don't have any problems, but it bothers some people", are clueless.

    I lived in Chiang Mai for a year, and traveled extensively into the mountains up north. There is no area anywhere near CM with decent air during burning season.

    In Chiang Mai, the air is not that good when it's not burning season. It's only decent immediately after a hard rain.


    Don't trust anyone who says the air is good where they live, if they don't have a meter. And the meters in most of the air filters are not accurate.


    In my condo in CM (modern construction, reasonably well sealed), I would run an air filter, turn it off and see how long it took the air quality to degrade. Within a couple of hours, the air quality would approach the level of pollution of the outside.


    In other words, staying indoors offers limited protection.


    Being on the coast or near the ocean is no guarantee of clean air. I was in Hua Hin in December of 2018 for a few days, and the aqi ranged between 100-160.


    You have to be well south of Bangkok to have decent air most of the time. Krabi, Phuket, etc., suffer from occasional bouts of bad air (burning from nearby counties, I suspect), but in general the air quality is good to moderate.


    A company called Woody Knows makes a 2.5 filter that goes in your nose and is much more comfortable than a face mask.


    Riding on a motorcycle, in traffic is the worst, air wise. Protect yourself!


    I am currently in Phuket, and don't worry about it much. If it starts to look hazy out, I check the readings from the nearby station. Today, it's about 80, so I run my air filter. Most days I don't think about it.


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