By way of background I have been coming to Thailand and living here semi permanently for over 7 years. I still have a home in Europe and spend just over 6 months there, the rest here. I started on visa exempt entries in 2012 and staying in hotels. I met a Thai lady who became my steady girlfriend then in 2014 we married, legally registered. Back in the autumn of my first year of visits I got a retirement visa and following that renewed it. After getting married and at the time to renew my extension I converted to a marriage rules renewal. Renewals fell in January. This year, for various reasons I decided not to renew, instead I did a border run which of course cancelled my existing visa first obtained nearly 7 years ago. Instead I got a mutiple entry 90 day stays non immigrant O at Savanakhet on evidence of marriage.
During all this time I have never done a TM 30 nor aware of one being done.. Nor a 90 day report as I have always left before the 90 days was up. I am not aware of any fines for failure to do a TM 30. Never stopped or asked where I have been staying at Suvarnabhumi exit immigration.
So to the TM 30. I have gradually become aware of this report and the convoluted law from which it comes and, apparently, has been extended ( from posts and comments on this forum, which first I just looked at, then joined, then started commenting and posting)..
Each time I arrive of course I put the address where I will be staying on the Arrival card given to the IO at Suvarnabhumi immigration control. For several years that address has been the home I have here in Kalasin Province with my wife, who is the registered occupant with a Blue Book to prove it. We have never yet got round to getting me a Yellow Book. Usually though on arrival and before lesving I spend a night or two in a hotel in Bangkok and whilst here may take a trip or two, usually within Thailand sometimes not as with my Savanakhet run last month, involving a few nights in hotels. I guess when I do that as they copy my passport on check in this is for the TM 30 which they, rather than I, are supposed to file.
When I started living here for several months, rather than just a couple of weeks at a time, first my Thai partner rented a small house in Kalasin City for 1 year. I came and went. Then we moved to Pattaya for about 8 months in total, renting a condo for 6 months and then hotel rooms whilst we decided what to do. Never saw, didn't even know at that time about such a thing as a TM 30. Agents in Pattaya did my visa extensions during this period. No word of any fines and I was still unaware of the TM 30 anyway.
After that we moved to her village in Kalasin Province on my next return to Thailand. Married by then too. We stayed in, but did not rent, a house belonging to a member of her family whilst we had a new house built for us. At that time on visa extension we went to Sakon Nakhon Immigration Office, the one for the region, although not the nearest IO, because marriage extensions can only be done at the IO of the region you are living in. I was still unaware of TM 30 reporting. My wife certainly has never ever mentioned them nor has the IO at Sakon Nakhon neither on our first trip there nor subsequently. No fines ever levied either, of that I'm sure because I would have been asked to pay them!. Our last visit there was January 2018. As I have said, this January I went to Savanakhet Consulate for a non O based on marriage visa.
From posts on here I have begun to wonder why I never got fined! I also wonder about the madness, admittedly with conflicting evidence about one being done every time you return home, within 24 hours, even though the address is shown on the Arrival Card and has been given every time on the extension application form plus copy of wife's Blue Book and ID card and this time at Savanakhet Consulate.
So Immigration know where to find me anyway whilst I am in Thailand! On my initial conversion to marriage extension an officer paid us a visit too. They know where to start looking for me if I am not there but showing as in Thailand because I presume the first and subsequent hotel or guest house I stay at will have done, probably on line, a TM 30 report.
As I understand it TM 30s were originally aimed at keeping track of foreign guests staying at hotels and guest houses, then got expanded to condos and rooms rented out. I can understand all that.
But to extend it to private homes were you are not a paying guest, not an invitee even but a marital home registered to your wife , which you have declared anyway on your arrival card, on 90 day reports if you have to do one, and on marriage visa or extension applications as well.??
And to have to do it each time you return to what you regard as your home, which you paid for, on which you pay all outgoings and which the wife and her family also tell me is my home???
It's madness, bureaucacy over the top.
And the IO for my region is 2 1/2 hours minimum drive away. Somewhere it says it can be done at the nearest police station, ( next village for me but it is just that a village station) that would be ok but then I've seen that Immigration don't accept such reporting as their systems don't link!!
Should I or my wife be doing it? Where?
Will I be fined next time I leave the country or need something at my Immigration Office, or indeed any IO?
What is the fine, is it for each infraction? Will it be backdated ? ( That would be alot) does it increase for delayed reporting?
Once again a long post, to explain the background and that I have never done one, nor been fined in over 7 years. But I'm leaving again in a few more weeks flying out from Suvarnabhumi. Might I get fined then? Don't usually carry a lot of baht when I leave, so it would be good to be prepared if I should be!
Thanks guys, if you've read this far well done!, and for any and all sensible replies