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    Trump says he could bring back fired ex-national security adviser Flynn

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    1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

    The idea the The MSN in its entirety, with the exclusion of FOX News, has somehow agreed or otherwise settled upon a unified effort to misinform the general public (AKA an industry wide conspiracy) is demonstrable fanciful nonsense.

     

    However, it’s not that I don’t agree with everything you say, your observation that

     

    ‘People have been known to cling to false beliefs in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.‘ 

     

    Is self evident in your clinging to and repeatedly posting your gaslighting assertion ‘Russian collusion hoax’.

     

     

    No it's not it's the Elephant in the room and any reasonable person can see that. CNN used to be my 'go to' for years and years but I can barely watch them these days due to their utter bias.

    All of them have left their journalistic credentials in the bin and pursue political commentary. Bring back Walter Cronkite when journalists were journalists!

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    Phuket exodus halted as officials overwhelmed, close bridge

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    11 minutes ago, Kerryd said:

    In this mornings ThaiVisa newsletter:

    "Phuket officials report zero new confirmed COVID cases"

    "....leaving the total number of people in Phuket officially recognised as infected with the disease since the outbreak began at 217."

    "The report noted that 177 people who had been confirmed as infected since the outbreak began had recovered and been discharged from hospital care."

    Of the 40 remaining cases, 38 are still in hospital (along with 104 being tested but not yet confirmed as being infected).
    Of the remaining 2 confirmed cases, 1 died from the virus and one person who was listed as having died from it was changed. Apparently he was infected, but died as a result of a motorcycle accident. (They think he may have been infected in the hospital and that may have contributed to his death, but it wasn't the cause of it.)

    From the Thaivisa thread here:
    https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1162271-phuket-officials-report-zero-new-confirmed-covid-cases/?do=findComment&comment=15363375

    And the original source article here:
    https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-officials-report-zero-new-confirmed-covid-cases-75921.php
     

    0.46% the vast majority recover and this figure doesn't include all those that got it and simply stayed home for 2 weeks and recovered. Much Ado about Nothing.

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    Thailand not same, once again

    in COVID-19 Coronavirus

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    2 hours ago, colinneil said:

    Control, that is what Thailand is up to, got to control the peasants, show them who is the boss.

    Exactly. They will maintain the system that keeps them super rich for as long as they can hoping, praying Thais never grow some.  And so all the silly little rules will be there 'for the good of the country'.

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    Thailand not same, once again

    in COVID-19 Coronavirus

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    2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

    Thailand did and does not much testing. That makes it likely that the real numbers are higher, maybe a lot higher.

    And maybe some people in the government have an idea about how much higher the numbers are. But they don't want to tarnish Thailand's image and release those numbers. That is another possible reason.

    But I gave up trying to find logic in whatever Thais do. There might be some logic but maybe not and then it's useless to search for it.

    Less than 1% mortality probably 0.1% as most people get this and recover and are never tested. For true figures you would have to test the whole population which will never happen.

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    Don Mueang roars back to life

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    14 minutes ago, PerkinsCuthbert said:

    Fact 1: The overwhelming majority of people do not have any significant risk of dying from Covid-19. The recent Stanford University antibody study now estimates that the fatality rate if infected is likely 0.1 to 0.2 percent, a risk far lower than previous World Health Organization estimates that were 20 to 30 times higher and that motivated isolation policies.

    In New York City, an epicenter of the pandemic with more than one-third of all U.S. deaths, the rate of death for people 18 to 45 years old is 0.01 percent, or 10 per 100,000 in the population. On the other hand, people aged 75 and over have a death rate 80 times that.

    For people under 18 years old, the rate of death is zero per 100,000. Of all fatal cases in New York state, two-thirds were in patients over 70 years of age; more than 95 percent were over 50 years of age; and about 90 percent of all fatal cases had an underlying illness. Of 6,570 confirmed Covid-19 deaths fully investigated for underlying conditions to date, 6,520, or 99.2 percent, had an underlying illness. If you do not already have an underlying chronic condition, your chances of dying are small, regardless of age. And young adults and children in normal health have almost no risk of any serious illness from COVID-19.

    Fact 2: Protecting older, at-risk people eliminates hospital overcrowding. We can learn about hospital utilization from data from New York City, the hotbed of Covid-19 with more than 34,600 hospitalizations to date. For those under 18 years of age, hospitalization from the virus is 0.01 percent, or 11 per 100,000 people; for those 18 to 44 years old, hospitalization is 0.1 percent. Even for people ages 65 to 74, only 1.7 percent were hospitalized. Of 4,103 confirmed Covid-19 patients with symptoms bad enough to seek medical care, Dr. Leora Horwitz of NYU Medical Center concluded “age is far and away the strongest risk factor for hospitalization.” Even early WHO reports noted that 80 percent of all cases were mild, and more recent studies show a far more widespread rate of infection and lower rate of serious illness.

    Half of all people testing positive for infection have no symptoms at all. The vast majority of younger, otherwise healthy people do not need significant medical care if they catch this infection.

    Fact 3: Vital population immunity is prevented by total isolation policies, prolonging the problem. We know from decades of medical science that infection itself allows people to generate an immune response – antibodies – so that the infection is controlled throughout the population by “herd immunity.”

    Indeed, that is the main purpose of widespread immunization in other viral diseases – to assist with population immunity. In this virus, we know that medical care is not even necessary for the vast majority of people who are infected. It is so mild that half of infected people are asymptomatic, shown in early data from the Diamond Princess ship, and then in Iceland and Italy.

    That has been falsely portrayed as a problem requiring mass isolation. In fact, infected people without severe illness are the immediately available vehicle for establishing widespread immunity. By transmitting the virus to others in the low-risk group who then generate antibodies, they block the network of pathways toward the most vulnerable people, ultimately ending the threat. Extending whole-population isolation would directly prevent that widespread immunity from developing.

    Fact 4: People are dying because other medical care is not getting done due to hypothetical projections. Critical health care for millions of Americans is being ignored and people are dying to accommodate “potential” Covid-19 patients and for fear of spreading the disease. Most states and many hospitals abruptly stopped “nonessential” procedures and surgery. That prevented diagnoses of life-threatening diseases, like cancer screening, biopsies of tumors now undiscovered and potentially deadly brain aneurysms. Treatments, including emergency care, for the most serious illnesses were also missed. Cancer patients deferred chemotherapy. An estimated 80 per cent of brain surgery cases were skipped. Acute stroke and heart attack patients missed their only chances for treatment, some dying and many now facing permanent disability. 

    Fact 5: We have a clearly defined population at risk who can be protected with targeted measures. The overwhelming evidence all over the world consistently shows that a clearly defined group – older people and others with underlying conditions – is more likely to have a serious illness requiring hospitalization and more likely to die from Covid-19. Knowing that, it is a commonsense, achievable goal to target isolation policy to that group, including strictly monitoring those who interact with them. Nursing home residents, the highest risk, should be the most straightforward to systematically protect from infected people, given that they already live in confined places with highly restricted entry.

    Some sense at last!  thank you

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    Trump confident coronavirus may have originated in Chinese lab

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    1 minute ago, stevenl said:

    Again nonsense. Nobody said it can not be transmitted from human to human. It was said there is no clear evidence it can be transmitted from human to human, which is far from the same. WHO even said human to human transmission may very well be possible.

    I said they didn't "agree" which was the point you were making. WHO have been appalling in this and still TO THIS DAY do not recommend mask wearing.

    Trump confident coronavirus may have originated in Chinese lab

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    9 minutes ago, simple1 said:

    I agree it's a scenario being evaluated.  Unfortunately many trump supporters still rabbit on or infer Covid-19 is man made / deliberately released into the environment.

    Nah I think it'll turn out to be an accident from the Lab to the wet market or wherever and I believe China does not want an investigation because they know this. If it were simply a bat issue at Wuhan let the investigators confirm it. 

    Biden, seeking support of women, wins Hillary Clinton's endorsement

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    26 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

    It would be the opposite of common sense to reelect 45. It would actually be suicidal. 

     

    Sorry but your comparisons to the UK don't wash. 

     

    Johnson isn't 45. 

     

    Corbyn isn't Biden. 

     

    You might have been on more solid ground if Bernie had been nominated. 

     

    But even then that wouldn't work. Corbyn has been linked to Labour's antisemitism while Bernie is a Jew. 

     

    Also in the U.S. antisemitism is much closer linked to the white nationalist 45 movement rather than the democratic party which enjoys overwhelming support from American Jews. 

     

    Yes we all know there are plenty of 45 American fans in Thailand but so what? They are hardly representative of Americans in general and the current polls forecast 45 losing very badly. Doesn't mean he will but he's clearly worried. 

     

     

    Ah the Polls!  that worked well last time didn't it

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    RIP Pattaya

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    On 4/22/2020 at 5:36 PM, Pilotman said:

    No, first came to BKK (now DMK), to collect an aircraft that had gone tech there some days before.  Went on visiting the country, but didn't make it to Pattaya until around 1992 and that for a long weekend with my wife.    

    you are a very holy and perfect man - congratulations

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