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The CDC updated its definition of what constitutes close contact in October to include direct physical contact, sharing food utensils, or exposure of 15 minutes spent six feet (1.83 m)or closer to an infected person.
So... if your with someone infected for 14 mins... no worries. In case you'all haven't figured it out yet, all of this is...^(&*(UY#$@O_#@O#@#P ????- 1
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Need more restrictions, more laws, more rules... it's not enough. Lock it all down now.
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Seems like China is back to normal after there covid vaccinations? Can't wait until we get ours.
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No worries... the new team is going to "Build Back Better" Question: What do you think that means?
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10 minutes ago, Seth1a2a said:OK, I'm going to resist all temptation to make fun of your post and let you in on a little secret. This election is over. Biden won and there are no more straws to grasp for, no hail Mary last ditch efforts , no answered prayers for a different outcome and no surprise Perry Mason style turn of events or revelations that are going to occur between now and Jan 20th 2021 when Biden will be sworn in as the next president of the United States Of America .
There was a poster on another thread who said that he was willing to bet his life that Trump would be the serving another 4 year term of office... I will solemnly send his family my deepest condolences for their loss on that day......
Ha ha!! ok. Here's another little not secret... there is one key date before President Elect (by the media) is confirmed... December 14th. And unless you have access to the evidence, or lack there of, being brought before the courts before that time, you cannot definitively say the election is over (case in point Bush v. Gore December 2000). And last but not least, until Biden is sworn in on January 20th, he ain't president yet. So... as I have said, we shall see.
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7 minutes ago, moogradod said:The scumbags strategy becomes obvious. I will now turn away from this disgusting scenario. It is not my country and I wont be missed by anyone taking interest in their matters. Good luck.
Don't get too disgusted just yet. Litigation isn't going so well thus far and Guliani and team only have two weeks... it's now a race against the clock. It will certainly be interesting to see what evidence is ultimately put forward and if it is compelling enough. I seriously want to see all the so called evidence being touted. But... let us not forget there has been the discussion of ultimately arguing something before the supreme court... I suspect it will be the federal crime of not allowing the ballot observers have access... we shall see as they say.
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41 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:If the vote went to congress it's not on a party majority vote. It's on a state vote, each state having ONE vote. I believe that enough states would vote for Trump for him to win.
One delegate from each state legislature gets a vote in the house of representatives. Currently there are 31 republican and 19 democrat legislatures... so if litigation is successful in litigating enough of the swing states to bring down below 270 electoral college votes, then the vote will likely proceed along party lines in the House of Representatives giving Trump the win.
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8 minutes ago, placeholder said:If you're referring to Pennsylvania, the State Supreme Court just dismissed that case with prejudice. The judicial system frowns on plaintiffs who play gotcha.
Yes.. Pennsylvania is one of the contested states... yes, I saw that Supreme Court ruling... there is 2 weeks to go before the electoral college convenes on December 14th.
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On 11/27/2020 at 6:23 AM, Kelsall said:So if it goes to the House of Representatives he is not leaving, which we already knew.
That's right!! When one of the key battleground/contested states the media has declared for Biden are found by a judge (very soon) to have handled their election process incorrectly, Trump will win that state. This will likely cause a domino effect on other similar state "vote irregularities". This will bring down the necessarily needed 270 Electoral College votes to below 270 and we will likely see a Constitutional requirement to move the vote to the House of Representatives... where Republicans will hold the majority vote.
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Ever heard Klaus Schwab, founder and executive chairman of the World Economic Forum, speak? Ever really dug into his proposals for "The Great Reset?"
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Malaysia started testing in September? Sudden emergency only after testing... that's interesting.
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All part of the greater Israel project.
“We’re Going to Take out 7 Countries in 5 Years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan & Iran..” -General Wesley Clark
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-west-bank-annex-territory-trump-explained-a9592731.html
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52 minutes ago, Salerno said:
Yes I do, doesn't necessarily protect them from the laws though nor does it protect the westerners that "work" on the site that are in Thailand (as a percentage obviously do) and can have their permission to stay removed on the whim of an arguably archaic "justice" system.
We all have our own FREE WILL choice. Immorality is a choice. Great example of doing the right thing in journalism is the recent happenings with Glenn Greenwald. That's what morality looks like.
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13 minutes ago, TooBigToFit said:
I often wonder why the news and forums post topics that they won't allow people to comment on. Are they posting those stories as a warning or threat to others? Human lives are at stake and literal human rights abuse of teenagers is the topic so you would think they would stand on the right side of history and do the right thing rather than be silent in the face of human rights abuses.
You bring up an excellent point. Why do the news forums post topics that are often clearly going to incite robust discussion... to then only censor that discussion?
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One can understand why the student, why the young inherently rebel... they intuitively know the truth.
Some people might be deeply shocked by words, images, arguments and ideas that are sometimes put forward in a free society. But in a free society, we have no right to prevent free speech and block other people’s opinions, even if we all disagree with what is said or find it offensive or immoral. There is certainly a case for curbing language that incites people to violence against others, or that recklessly endangers life and limb – like the obvious example of shouting ‘Fire!’ in a theatre. Likewise, there is a case that children need special protection also, which is why, for example, we have age classifications on movies and games.However, it is very different from preventing particular words, images, arguments and ideas from being aired at all. There can be no such censorship in a society of free individuals – for then they would not be free. Chog Dee... Lets all remain free shall we.
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1 minute ago, placeholder said:
What are the rates of people who suffer long term damage from the disease?
What about hospitals that are actually having to send patients to hospitals farther away because they are at capacity?
What about the shortage of N95 masks (thanks Trump)?
I've made my point... caveats abound. I realize my opinions here are contrary to the usual narrative... but in my humble opinion, it is important that we consider all the facts and allow ourselves to draw our own conclusions. It doesn't mean of course my opinions here are entirely correct... but a healthy debate at a minimum should include someone to play "Devils Advocate" for the sake of establishing the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
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Just now, Chomper Higgot said:
What about reports on how something that Trump said would be gone by Easter has killed over 233,000 Americans and is still killing?
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases_casesper100klast7days
It was my understanding that Jeffr2 was asking about long term case specific health effects. You've taken my comment out of context. My comment was responding to any long term health effects an individual may have after recovering from the illness.
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9 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:
Do you have any stats for CV19 long term effects?
I have heard of some sporadic reports of long term effects, but no definitive studies or stats that I am aware of.
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2 hours ago, JulesMad said:
And usa still believes they are a democracy ????????????
Democracy: The manipulation of the 51%. All any good marketeer, all any good social engineer needs to do is manipulate enough of the ignorant masses.. and he wins. That is democracy... Good luck you dumb &()*$^$^
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3 hours ago, cmarshall said:
Giuliani represents Trump only on TV, not in any legal proceedings for which Trump has ample other legal representation. No decision to allow or disallow observers at any polling place would be within the purview of the Democratic Party. The local board of elections would make all such decisions. Since they are local authorities there could not be any national lawsuit against all of them.
You're wrong... if they are breaking the law... there will indeed be a lawsuit against them.
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1 hour ago, Jingthing said:
One thing is for sure. Other countries aren't knocking down the doors to try to copy the US system. Shining city on a hill, my <deleted>.
No doubt... if you are honoring the truth... the America experiment at freedom is dead. But as one wise man once said, it is the truth that shall set you free... and that immutable truth is certainly applicable today. Chog Dee America!!!
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14 minutes ago, cmarshall said:
So, while the Supreme Court has no legitimate role in deciding elections that can and have intervened illegally, unconstitutionally, and corruptly to decide a presidential election for political purposes. I expect them to do so again in the coming month.
You're opining, which is fine. And I see your argument... I see where you are coming from. However, seemingly you are resolving to the original idea that the Supreme Court will be eventually called in to hear some form of legal arguments. As I understand it, because I have no legal training and not having spent that much time on this, that Trump's Top personal lawyer, Rudy Gulioni (however you spell it) is suing in several states and is considering a larger federal lawsuit, primarily surrounding the Democrats illegal practice of not allowing a bi-partisan "observer" process of counting votes. Anyway, your thoughtful comments are well noted.. so we shall see in about a month or so?
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10 minutes ago, cmarshall said:The Supreme Court has no constitutional role in deciding elections under the US Constitution. For the presidential election the ultimate decider is the Congress.
You're attempting to conflate the usual role of the U.S. supreme court with the U.S. Constitutional voting system process. And you're are right, they have no direct role. The highest court settles legal federal legal arguments it has legal jurisdiction over. The fact that the U.S. Supreme court was used to settle the election dispute of 2000 is obvious evidence of how it can be and is used in instances such as this one.
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2 hours ago, cmarshall said:
I think you underestimate the creativity of the 4,000 lawyers that Trump has attacking the election results. Since Justices Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett are on the Supreme Court today, because they were part of the successful judicial coup that was Bush v. Gore in 2000, it strains credulity to imagine that they would scruple to hand the election to Trump given the chance.
But it could play out this way: They tie up the count in the courts until Dec. 8, the deadline for reporting the winning electoral slate to Congress. Then the Republican legislatures can pass a law picking the (Republican) electors themselves under the claim that to fail to do so would disenfranchise the entire state. But the Dem governor sends in the slate of electors who actually won the vote. So now Congress has two competing slates, the Senate and the House each vote which to accept. The Senate will be either majority Republican or tied at 50-50. If Republican, the Senate accepts the Republican slate. If 50-50 does Pence get a tie-breaker vote? Damned if anyone knows given the poor drafting of the Electoral Count Act of 1888. But there is a high risk that the House and the Senate will not agree on which electors to accept, despite that the law is clear that they must accept the governor's. If that all results in neither candidate getting to 270, the the House elects the president with one vote per state and Trump wins.
If you think the Republicans would disdain to display such contempt for the voters, you haven't been paying attention.
Cool story bro!
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Trump keeps up false claims of widespread fraud at Georgia rally for U.S. senators
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You are likely right... the reality is getting to the truth within the next week before the electoral college meets on the 14th is pretty slim. I can tell you however, 70 million people have just lost all faith in any semblance of a legitimate "democracy" in America. I personally would never vote for Trump or Biden and have seen the writing on the wall with this now defunct left vs. right, divide and rule, duopoly for many years now. But, this event solidifies my sentiment here for millions now. It was a great run... right up until America shot its own benevolent President and his brother.