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  1. On 6/22/2021 at 9:07 PM, webfact said:

    Professor Siripan Nogsuan

     

    Her official bio on the Chula website:

    Siripan is an Associate Professor and the Head of Department of Government, Faculty of Political Science, Chulalongkorn University, Thailand. Siripan received a Master Degree in Comparative Politics from the Johns Hopkins University and a Ph.D. from Kyoto University. Her research interests embrace comparative political parties and electoral systems, political behaviours, institutional design, Thai politics and civic education.

     

     

    Make of that what you will!

     

     

  2. 44 minutes ago, Burma Bill said:

    COVID Outbreaks Continue in Many Countries Taking Chinese Vaccines

    Most of the doses administered in countries such as Seychelles, Chile, Bahrain, and Mongolia, which have the highest rates of inoculated populations in the world, were developed by Chinese companies Sinovac and Sinopharm.

     

     

    Read past the headlines and pull out quotes, which tend to be clickbait. It's not all doom and gloom.

     

    You will see in the actual article:

     

    Amid the confounding outbreaks, scientists have also cited easing of social controls and careless behaviour for the spike in infections.

     

     

     

    You will also see:

     

    Additionally, Sinovac's efficacy at preventing symptomatic infection was 51 percent in Brazil, 67 percent in Chile, 65 percent in Indonesia, and 84 percent in Turkey. The differences in results may be due to different variants circulating in each country at the time and differences in the populations included in the studies.

    As with all the COVID-19 vaccines for which data are available, efficacy against the more severe outcomes is greater. Efficacy against hospitalisation for Sinovac in Chile, Brazil and Turkey was 85 percent, 100 percent and 100 percent, respectively.

     

     

    And this:

    According to the head researcher of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies at Mongolia's Ministry of Health Batbayar Ochirbat, Mongolia has done the right thing by employing the Chinese-made jab, mostly because it has kept the mortality rate low in the country.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  3. I did read the article. Bereft of scientific merit. Filled with speculation. No direct links to papers which you claim discredit the US-UK-AUS article in Nature. Selective quotes. Why don't you post those papers directly if the science is important to you?

     

    You have also made false conspiracy claims about the Institut Pasteur.

     

    It would appear your agenda is to spam post with the latest conspiracy scraps you collected to support your position (plandemic? new world order? just trolling for debate?), usually with erudite one-liners and guerilla style debate.

     

     

     

  4. 2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

    It's too early to tell...

    Just having a low corona related death rate does not mean...

     

    Now what are you claiming?

     

    It appears ...   It's too early to tell ...

     

    Your basis of comparison shifts depending on how the data fits your conclusion?

     

    Since you're smarter than all the major world governments out there, tell what "works" with supportive hard data? What exactly did they miss?

     

  5. You compare totals.

     

    1/ Whether lockdowns (and which measures) worked or did not work for any place (say Calif.) can be seen by tracking rate of new infections and marking against the introduction or removal of such measures so that the base points can be taken into consideration.

     

    2/ Flo. "did not lockdown" is false.

     

     

     

  6. A poster continues to compare static snapshots of TOTALS rather than historical data to track lockdown interventions.

     

    At this point in time, it's safe to say basic scientific principles are rejected, and the inquiring "questions" are feigned.

     

     

     

  7. Conspiracy theories are easy to start and substantiate:

    Was that a coincidence?
    That's what "the establishment" says, but I just want to ask, that's all!

    People are saying....

     

    It takes 0 effort to spin a yarn.

     

    I think Biden was right to order an investigation, and that is the stage we're at now.

     

  8. A poster mentioned The Institut Pasteur. [Note: In France a video was made that implicated The Institut Pasteur in the spread of Covid-19.]

     

     

    Here is what they say in Coronavirus: Institut Pasteur warns against false information circulating on social media:

     

    It is false and slanderous to assert that the Institut Pasteur released the coronavirus in the city of Wuhan in China.

     

    The "BSL-4 laboratory" in Wuhan, which is mentioned in this video, is a research institute that strictly depends on the Chinese authorities and one with which the Institut Pasteur has no scientific interaction.

     

  9. The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2 | Nature Medicine

     

    The named authors from US, UK and Australia say: 

    It is improbable that SARS-CoV-2 emerged through laboratory manipulation of a related SARS-CoV-like coronavirus. As noted above, the RBD of SARS-CoV-2 is optimized for binding to human ACE2 with an efficient solution different from those previously predicted. Furthermore, if genetic manipulation had been performed, one of the several reverse-genetic systems available for betacoronaviruses would probably have been used. However, the genetic data irrefutably show that SARS-CoV-2 is not derived from any previously used virus backbone.

     

     

     

    Those scientists could still be wrong but any refutation should be science-based, not an "investigative reporter" piece in New York Magazine.

     

     

     

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  10. tomwoods.com  -  Master the freedom philosophy and hone your debating skills, Monday through Friday!

     

    Here's one for the thinking religionists out there. Lockdowns (or restrictive measures) track against new infections, not number of deaths (which lag infections).
     

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