Thomas J
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4 minutes ago, cmarshall said:
countries with incompetent or corrupt governments
Please identify those countries without incompetent and corrupt governments.
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1 minute ago, cmarshall said:
You're another one ignoring reality. Do an online search for Covid outbreaks in China. Do you find stories about overloaded hospitals, resurgent death rates, or new daily infection rates at new highs? No you don't, because it hasn't happened. The Covid epidemic can and has been controlled by effective governments before the widespread availability of vaccines.
Nope you are right, and I have no reports of any in North Korea either. I have read reports of dramatic multi million decreases in cell phone accounts in China but I am sure it was just people who had 2 or 3 phones and were reducing the amount of cell phone accounts they have. But I am sure those reports are not nearly as accurate as the official Chinese figures that have its rate of Covid lower than the Marshall Islands. Truly an amazing feat for a country that has the vaccine reported to be the least effective and 10 cites with populations in excess of 10 million people.
Are you interested in any bridges. I have several in New York, San Francisco, and London for sale.-
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1 minute ago, Pedrogaz said:Do you have any evidence for what you are insinuating? No thought not!
LOL and do you have any evidence to contradict that. No I thought not. Let see, these were the same people who told the world that human to human transmission of the virus was not possible. I believe the "official" Chinese figures about as much as I trust those emails from the Nigerian Prince telling me I have inherited a fortune.
I put those with North Korea who announced that it has zero Covid cases. Now if you really believe that the China figures a nation of over 1 billion people with crowded cities such as Shanghai, Beijing, and Chongging all with more that 25 million people and somehow despite having the world least effective vaccine has a Covid infection rate lower than the Marshall islands. I can see why you would trust their figures out of Wuhan.
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5 hours ago, Tony125 said:
Scientists could create a single vaccine that fights multiple coronaviruses within 5 years, potentially preventing the next pandemic, an expert says
I wonder if there were scientists back in 1984 that predicted a cure for HIV also? That is 37 years ago and still no vaccine to prevent it, nor medicine to cure it.
The CDC announced the major routes of transmission for HIV in 1984. The cause of the virus was identified the following year. By 1996, a “cocktail” of drugs that halted the progression of the HIV virus before it developed into AIDS was being used to treat patients. These antiretrovirals prolong life, but they are not a cure. -
8 hours ago, tonray said:
On a long flight all it takes is one carrier and everyone who uses the bathroom is potentially infected
Have you considered social distancing when sharing the toilet?
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7 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:
FTI and TLCA will suggest that the Thai Credit Guarantee Corporation increase the loan guarantee ratio to 60% and wants authorities to help SMEs deal with their debt payment records. Another measure is to relax loan application conditions for SME, which find it hard to access loans due to financial institutions’ strict criteria for selecting borrowers.
Now lets see, the businesses are suffering and failing because they are closed or severely impacted by Covid and the answer is to relax credit standards and guarantee more money.
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2 minutes ago, BritTim said:
When he entered Thailand with a Non O-A visa, he should have shown his old and new passports at immigration, and will have received a permission to stay of one-year in the new passport, together with an appropriate annotation.
Ah thank you. Perhaps that is what he was muttering about not having a valid passport. I know I told him that I have an old passport with a 10 year visa stamped in it for China. Two years ago they merely asked me to show the old passport with the visa along with my current one.
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38 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:
That will transfer every relevant stamp from you old passport to the new one. That includes your extension of stay stamp.
I have a neighbor from Belgium who tends to get things mixed up and is a bit paranoid about everything dealing with immigration. He just returned from Belgium and while there got a new passport. He has an O=A Visa from Belgium. He was under the impression he needed to get the O-A Visa transferred to his new passport.
He went to Jomtien immigration and they told him he needed to go to the Belgium Embassy in Bangkok to transfer. They of course are closed due to Covid. He mailed his new passport to them and supposedly they transferred it to the new passport. I found this strange since I would think it would be the Thai government that would be issuing the visa. Anyway they sent him some official paper regarding the transfer via email He went to Jomtien immigration to "register" his new passport number. At first they were reluctant to accept it due to the paper being a copy.
Maybe just me, but I think he went through a lot of effort with no real purpose. I would think that the visa in his old passport still would apply and he would just apply for another extension in November when his current one expires showing both his old passport with the visa and his new one. Am I correct?-
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6 minutes ago, Kanada said:
Symptoms not the same for everyone
That is so very true. I have a friend who contracted Covid. She said she was very tired and vomited repeatedly for two weeks. Never lost her sense of smell or taste.
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11 minutes ago, webfact said:“Wuhan” style lockdown,
What is a Wuhan style lockdown. Announcing that you have contained the Covid 19 and misrepresenting how many people were actually infected?
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Did anyone ever read the warning labels on drugs even over the counter ones.
This is a vaccine and vaccine often have side effects. She could have been allergic to it or as suggested her high blood pressure may have contributed to her death. This is the warning label on aspirin.
Aspirin may cause serious side effects including:
- ringing in your ears,
- confusion,
- hallucinations,
- rapid breathing,
- seizure (convulsions),
- severe nausea,
- vomiting,
- stomach pain,
- bloody or tarry stools,
- coughing up blood,
- vomit that looks like coffee grounds,
- fever lasting over 3 days, and
- swelling or pain lasting over 10 days
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3 minutes ago, placnx said:
returning to the US would incur more risk of virus exposure than sheltering in place,
There are decisions and consequences. You seem to be so concerned over getting Covid. Obviously not concerned enough to go through the inconvenience of traveling back to the USA. That speaks volumes about how genuine your concern is versus the hassle of having to travel back.
PS. even getting the vaccine has risks and is no certainty of being 100% protected. Your actions or should I say lack of them show you are more concerned about cost and convenience.
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1 hour ago, webfact said:
They were charged with violating the Covid-19 rules
I guess they would have been OK if they just were having sex and not drinking alcohol. To the best of my knowledge having sex was not banned. But perhaps you can't do it at restaurants or during curfew hours.
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On 7/20/2021 at 11:44 AM, webfact said:
In addition to a financial relief package, the bank’s Tang To Know-how (Make Money, Save Money, Invest Money) program designed to improve financial literacy can help them manage the financial uncertainty and stress brought on by the Covid-19 outbreak.
LOL
This should be a short course. If your business is closed and you are not taking in any money you are broke.
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21 minutes ago, Kanada said:
Id like to know too….I was quite sick in Middle East last year!
Not feeling great for couple days…..high fever for another three days (don’t remember most of those 3 days)and then slowly getting better over next 5-6 days!
not traditional signs I’ve read of Covid but in my mind I think that’s what it was!
I think the same thing. I was also in the Middle East last year on a cruise for 15 days. Numerous people on the ship including me and my fiancé had lingering coughs for weeks. Now was it Covid? Perhaps, did not lose any sense of taste or smell but cough lasted for me about 3 weeks and her about 5 weeks.
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16 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:
End the quarantine for vaccinated expats returning to Thailand—and we will book flights
Yes you are exactly correct. I have neighbors who just arrived from France. Both fully vaccinated with Pfizer. Had Covid tests before the flight and after arrival and they still were required to spend 15 days in quarantine at their expense. That is ludicrous. They are more at risk in getting Covid from the unvaccinated Thai's than giving it to them.
I spent many hours on the internet and was fortunate to snare an appointment to get my first Astra Zeneca shot in Bangkok this Friday. I also "supposedly" have reserved a Moderna shot also in Bangkok when they arrive. Now is it a hassle for me to make the 6 hour roundtrip drive to get the vaccine. Of course. But that is not the fault of the USA.
Had those vaccine appointments not been available I would have been willing to fly to another country to obtain the vaccine, take a holiday and return to Thailand. However I certainly did not and would not be in solitary confinement in a hotel room for 15 days.
If someone is truly so worried about losing their life to Covid but not willing to do something to save their own life other than complain that the vaccine is not available at their local pharmacy and somehow it is the USA's responsibility to make it free and convenient. I don't have much empathy for. There is such a thing as taking personal responsibility.-
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12 hours ago, placnx said:
I wonder how the French arranged the distribution of the J&J vaccine. It seems well done, to eight cities. Maybe they helped the Thai government figure out the solution.
Yes the French and the Chinese sent vaccine to Thailand. As previously stated, one or two countries sending vaccine to Thailand likely created considerable effort and logistics. Now try doing that with all of the 195 counties in the world sending vaccine to Thailand only dedicated to their citizens. Or is it only the USA expatriate lives that are so precious that the other countries likewise don't have to send vaccine for theirs.
If you really believe that your life is in peril, take the initiative to do something about it. There are vaccines available and waiting for you. You will have to leave Thailand and go through the hassle and expense of procuring them. But I guess you are really of the opinion that taking the initiative to save your own life is not worth that effort and you prefer to complain that the USA has not made it convenient for you to obtain the vaccine. That inconvenience sir was caused by your decision to move 7,000 miles away from the USA mainland. -
12 hours ago, placnx said:
This reminds me of the US administration argument that since there are 9 mn expats it is impossible to deal with. That's a straw man argument. Many of the US expats are either fairly close to the US or in a country where it's not a problem to be vaccinated in a reasonable time frame. I guess you don't know about mountain rescue, either.
Lets be honest. You believe that Covid 19 is such a threat that in your opinion the USA has the obligation to marshal all the required effort to bring a vaccine to Thailand so you can be protected. However, despite your opinion that the threat is so severe and so real, you choose not to save your own life by flying back to the USA or any other location where the vaccines are readily available.
Actions speak louder than words. The fact that you choose not to fly somewhere where there is vaccine available reveals your real opinion and that is that your complaint is not that the vaccine is unavailable but it is inconvenient and you will incur significant expense to obtain it. What you are really asking is not the the USA "save" you and other U.S. expatriates from Covid 19 but spare you the expense and hassle of obtaining. it. -
8 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
In the U.S., in most states, foreign nationals had exactly the same access to vaccines and in the same time frames as American citizens
Yes so if you are going to complain about any country it should be Thailand for not acquiring sufficient vaccines and making them available to all who are residing here. The fact that the USA making them available to everyone is not justification for imposing on them the requirement to fly vaccines all over the world.
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3 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:
However, if Thailand had a shortage of heart surgeons, meaning that you could not be treated, and if the US government decided to fly over a team for three months to help reduce that shortage, then perhaps it would be reasonable to expect that they included you amongst those they were treating?
Yes and here is another analogy. If you were on a boat with several other U.S. citizens and it sank and you all were drowning but there was an island within swimming distance. If you were really concerned about drowning, then taking ones own initiative to swim to the island is probably a more prudent action than waiting for the U.S. government to send the Navy to rescue you. There are flights leaving every day to locations including the USA where vaccines are available.
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1 hour ago, The Theory said:
How many times have you seen or been in this type of situation ?? This is not everyday needs. ???? This is not about you and not about me only, it's about all Americans. This is an Emergency.
Have you tried Travelocity or Skyscanner. The vaccines are available and free. The fact that it is inconvenient is caused by those people including me, who chose to live outside the boundaries of the USA.
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For those of you who say oh the French did it or so did China. One or two countries is a huge mess. 195 countries trying to do it simultaneously is an impossibility. Even assuming that the logistic nightmare and the huge potential for the vaccines to be diverted was avoided, somehow this mentality that the home countries should jump through hoops and go to extraordinary lengths to accommodate those who choose to live abroad is mindboggling. Its like the person who chooses to climb the Matterhorn, gets stuck and then expects that the government will send someone in to rescue them because of the decision that they made. You made your bed, now you should learn to sleep in it. If you don't like the fact that the USA or any country is not sending the vaccines to your doorstep, get on a plane and fly back. You should take responsibility for your own health and if the lack of vaccine is so troubling, do something about it other than complain.
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28 minutes ago, placnx said:
There is no empathy in the US Embassy response to its expats dilemma. Just callous. That goes for the White House spokesperson as well.
Empathy perhaps. However there are approximately 200 countries in the world. I would expect that all of them have expatriates scattered all over the globe. I can not imagine the logistic nightmare if each of them said to Thailand, oh we want to send vaccines only for our citizens living in your country.
Many of the vaccines require deep cold refrigeration. So now you have lets say only 5 countries sending them and arriving in BKK on the same day. Where do you send them. If you could figure out exactly where the expatriates are really residing do you then send them to a hospital located in that region? Now you are the hospital with a single freezer to house the vaccines. Do you have to mark which ones are for the Belgium's, French, Russians, Canadians and Australians and select only the ones dedicated to that countries citizens when a person comes in for a jab?
The fact is that living abroad means a level of service that is diminished from living in ones home country. Eventually there will be a supply of vaccines, In the interim expatriates for the most part either have to live with that delay or put on their big boy pants and get on a plane and go back to their home country. It is up to each individual to do what they feel appropriate for themselves and their family. This idea that the government should somehow go to extraordinary lengths to accommodated those who choose to live overseas is just nonsense. -
28 minutes ago, placnx said:
Treating a pandemic like a run-of-the-mill medical issue is unreasonable and unfair. Biden's token donation of 500mn doses just shows that it's all for domestic show
LOL well how many doses did Finland provide, how about Iceland, or Mexico. If I had a person who was starving and I took him to a restaurant and gave the person a meal I would not expect that they would complain that it wasn't steak and lobster. Whether it was 10 doses, or 10 million doses, the USA has to borrow money to "give those vaccines away" That is just plain rude and ungrateful.
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Thailand’s 40 CEOs reject ‘Wuhan’ model, call on PM to control pandemic, provide compensations
in Thailand News
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You said it was false. You prove it. As said, I would not trust anything the Chinese said. The very fact you have a nation reporting it has the same level of Covid infections per million as the remote Marshall and Soloman Islands is testimony to how specious their numbers are.