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18 hours ago, Cat ji said:
???? Good, you're on track - work on it, be determined to do it.
[Note: Do not have children - at least not yet, not until you're sorted with this. Regardless of wife or mortgage, having children would change the picture, even if you earn a lot and/or get lucky with investments.]
Practice living frugally. "Lifestyle" / lifestyle culture is the opposite of that goal.
Key thing is how you can maintain yourself, how you can get money. (The Thailand passport connection, would that get you a work permit or maybe be helpful with operating a small business legally?
Work skills/qualifications that let you work in foreign countries, or as "digital nomad," a big plus.
(I think you figured that out already.)
[Referring to that first paragraph again:] Yes, indeed. While the CoL increases, with inflation and taxes and so on. Whether or not your income increases. And that slaving away scene influences you to up the lifestyle - as in, "I might as well", to help you feel better about it, and you feel secure with the salary coming in every month.Of course, there are pro's and con's, you have to decide, like what is most important to you.
btw, I've come across several guys here who gave that as a major reason for moving to Thailand, rather than stay in Canada / Australia / California. As well as CoL and general cultural stuff. Definitely many in SE Asia generally.With regard to maintaining myself financially; I am a qualified Electronic and Computer Engineer with an increasing amount of software engineering experience. I have worked remotely previously and my intention is to work remotely full-time if/when I make the move to Thailand/SE Asia. The idea being that I will have a western income with SE Asia living expenses.
The Thai passport connection could be used to set up a Thai company. But at this point I think I prefer to have a registered company in my home country and do my finances from there, I don't like the idea of keeping all my finances in Thailand.
Thanks for the advice, I have been living as frugally as possible with about 12 months now, for no particular reason other than I looked around my house one day and realised it was full of worthless shit for which I had initially paid a small fortune ???? I just did a big clear out and did not revert to my old ways of buying things for which I had no immediate/long-term need, it has been really refreshing, and I would advise anyone to give it a go also.
Thanks for replying, I appreciate the response.
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5 hours ago, RocketDog said:
I only read the first three pages of replies, and predictably they were a decent mix of humor and serious answers. But as others have said this is tried and true topic, but by no means irrelevant.
I'll give you a serious answer from my own limited experience.
I met a hard-working low-income girl from Phetchabun through a Thai friend. She worked 16 hour days in a small sidewalk bistro with her sister while caring for her bedridden mother by herself. Very decent large family who all have jobs and certainly no 'bar' experience and no debt except for her motorcycle. Her upbringing was crushing impoverishment and she knows the value of money. Married once to a Thai man for 19 years and divorced at 42, no kids and she doesn't regret that. .
She and her sister own a house they built and paid for jointly. She has always saved and spent her money well. Only a 6th grade education but knows right from wrong and is never moody or pessimistic like so many Thai women. When she occassionly becomes unhappy she just stops talking and it passes in a few hours; she detests conflict and simply won't let herself be unhappy.
After a few months of dating I asked her to live with me and not work. She cleans, cooks, died the laundry, teaches me Thai, and is a constant always-happy companion who refuses to let life get her down. She takes very good care of me and is very sensitive to my moods. We've been together for two years but I get the impression she knows it could end any time. She figures she'll just carry on somehow I guess. We are more sexually compatible than any woman I've ever known in my 60+ years. In short, she's a diamond in the rough.
I pay for everything in daily life including restaurants several times a week, periodic road trips just for fun at nice beaches and good hotels and restaurants. We go to the gym together, hit the beach several times a week, and enjoy each other's company. I got her a passport and we'll do some international travel soon. She's never been in an airplane or out of her country. She genuinely appreciates what I provide and knows she's got a good life now.
I pay her ฿10,000/month and some extra when she visits her family. I never ask but suspect she funnels money to her siblings who can certainly use it as both her parents are dead. I earned large graces with her and her family by paying for her mother's funeral house, which was of course burned later. I buy her a baht of gold as a necklace or bracelet once a year on her birthday along with clothes (I like to see her dressed up) and cosmetics.
I have intentionally never told her my net worth, and she probably won't ever know until I pass as she's in my will; not everything but a pretty substantial amount.
Other farang that know us both tell me I'm very lucky and I should give her more monthly. I'm m considering it now but want to wait to see if she asks for it. It's a perverted kind of test I suppose. I was burned badly in a 10 year marriage in America and don't plan to play the fool again in this lifetime.
Truthfully, for what she brings to my life and what I can afford, I should be giving her closer to 20,000/month. Time will tell.
50,000/month is ludicrous for the poser you describe.
Good women are out there but it takes time and experience to find them and recognize a good one when you see her. The rental experience so many here recommend is just not my style. I'm old fashioned that way and know the rewards of a stable longterm relationship. I'm well pleased that I found her at this point in my life.
Good luck!
Thanks for posting that reply.
Glad you are happy with life.
All the best in the future.
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A message from the original poster:
Thanks for all the replies, a great effort put in by some posters. Some of the less more helpful made me laugh with their comment so thanks for that too.
Just wanted to clear up some issues which were prevalent throughout the responses.
- I am 31 but not in a rush to find a GF/Wife
- I do not have a GF and the Thai lady I spoke with was a bar worker I had for one night and decided to question her so I could learn, nice girl but no interest in relationship with her.
- I have no intention of sending money to any woman from abroad but being honest if I find myself living in the country later in my life I do not have an immediate problem with contributing some money towards a GF/wife, but naturally this would be based on her income, I would be monitoring where this money I provide is going, and it would be an amount I am comfortable with paying (and definitely no more than I think a Farang wife would cost me in my own country).
- I do not consider myself ugly as some suggested (definitely no Brad Pitt), but I am a full-time boxer (since age 7) so my body is at least superficially beautiful ????
- Unlike most on here I am fortunate enough to have an immediate family member with a Thai passpost (a weird twist of fate many years ago). Therefore I do not need to put any property in Thai GF/Wifes name. I can take care of that myself.
- In short, I am not about to start forking money across the seas, I am not attached to any particular girl, I am not rushing in fact I am doing the opposite, I am researching 10 years ahead of time ????
Again, thank you for all the replies, alwaysd nice to get info from those more experienced.
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30 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:
In other words a, "troll post."
Depends on your definition of "troll post". I havn't the time to discuss it any further though, so i'll leave it up to you to decide.
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On 4/7/2019 at 9:26 AM, Ajvat37 said:
Dude you are 31 and talking about wanting a relationship with a hooker? How about just have fun with the bar girls until you meet a nice university girl to date. I’ve never been asked for a “salary” from the Thai girls I’ve been with because I don’t pursue relationships with prostitutes. Calm your nerves and keep your emotions in check for a while when you do move here.
A wild misinterpretation on my original post. I have no intention of getting into a relationship with this woman or any other. I was merely asking a question that intrigued me, and added some additional information about liking the country and wanting to live there in the future.
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On 4/7/2019 at 6:50 AM, malibukid said:
i don't understand why these young dudes want to come to Thailand for the ladies.
In my case it is not for for the ladies, but for the cheap cost of living (I have no intention of paying big money for a GF, the general interpretation of my original post would make you think different though, ha), and general sense of freedom in a society far less regulated than my own country (although, there may be downsides to this that I may not be able to see)
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On 4/7/2019 at 5:58 AM, atyclb said:
depends
Ha, ha, ha, that's good. Thankfully, I am an outlier in that data. I'm a boxer, helps with keeping lean ????
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On 4/7/2019 at 4:15 AM, 4737 Carlin said:
Your 31 not 71. Surely there are women you won't have to pay in your own country.
Plenty of them, all seeking marriage, child/children a joint 40 year mortgage in a residential area just above what we can comfortably afford ... all of which I can provide if the thought of slaving away for the next 40 years to pay for said mortgage and maintenance of wifes illusion of happiness didn't make me physically sick.
Would much rather a small, cheap pad in an Asian country and a more carefree life. If adding a Thai GF seems like it is going to had unwanted hassle and/or costs then this will not be happening either.
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On 4/6/2019 at 1:47 PM, DepDavid said:
Regardless a girlfriend gets no salary. You came to Thailand found a beautiful piece of donkey and are crying all the way home because you can’t save her or be with her forever. Listen, don’t send any money. Next time you come here you will find another even better. I know girls who have 3 or 4 guys like you sending money. They just laugh at the stupid Farang. Bottom line, don’t send anything.
Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa ConnectDon't worry, was just asking a question to hear the responses. I am not/was never going to send any money.
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On 4/6/2019 at 5:03 AM, SuperTed said:
The reality is you are with your woman every night the first year in a Thai relationship (first hand experiences), and three times a week is not unreasonable thereafter (from word of mouth).
Can you explain what you meant by that?
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On 4/5/2019 at 8:54 AM, moonseeker said:
Complete rubbish. Not everybody is paying his "gf". Plenty of non bar girl relationships around. Off course there are still massive cultural differences which affect relationships and families. If you are looking for advice on this subject from the regular men-clown here, you won't get much insight. You are young enough to explore TH and venture away from the bar scene. Make your own experience and find an independent, smart girl that has Western views. Maybe also look at some other Asian countries. TH is far, far from what it used to be 25 years ago and I would never consider living here, had i just arrived. Great options about.
Good luck and enjoy. MS>
I am in no rush to settle down, I think the general perception taken from my first post is that I am ready to hand some lady 50K bhat per month.
I have no intention of doing so but was simply asking a question that intrigued me to people more experienced in the matter.
Out of interest, if you were me where else would you think about living in Asia?
What are the biggest/worst changes you have encountered in the last 25 years?
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On 4/4/2019 at 5:18 PM, Psimbo said:
4 words- 'Private Dancer' and 'Bangkok Rules'.
Haven't heard these yet, can you explain?
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Just logged back in, surprised and happy to see so many responses.
Had a quick scan through them and have to say thanks for the effort, info and humor.
I will be home in a few hours and respond where required and re-post to clarify my current position.
Thank again
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On 4/4/2019 at 1:39 PM, AlexRich said:
Another long winded “newbie” post. If I were being a cynic I’d suggest that it was “made up” to generate traffic?
Although this does happen, my post is actually genuine. I made it long winded in the hope of generating some traffic alright as I wanted to hear what people on here thoughts were on this.
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On 4/4/2019 at 12:48 PM, OneMoreFarang said:
You should pay her at least 50k per month and additionally all the daily expenses like food, make-up, new clothes, disco, etc.
If you are not willing to pay the bare minimum then you are obviously not the guy for Thailand.
Ha, ha, thanks for the advice pal
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2 minutes ago, grollies said:ok, good luck, your intuition is correct, pay her f-all.
Thank you. Yea, I won't be parting with money anytime soon. Was just asking as I am interested to know what Farangs think about this in general. Although judging by some of the replies I should have checked for similar threads before creating this one.
*Hangs head in shame ????
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3 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:set your budget (which should be zero) and tell her that is it. if she does not like it she will be instantly replaced.
Ha, ha, pretty hardcore, but thanks ????
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Sorry Grollies I am new here
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Hi,
I have just been to Thailand for two months and I am absolutely hooked on the place (I am sure this is not uncommon). I can see myself living there full-time somewhere down the road (I am only 31 at the minute, and I have a few things to do in my own country before making such a move)
I met some Thai ladies while I was staying there and was interested to find out as much as I could about their perspective on Farang/Thai relationships.
One thing that kept coming up was the concept that the Farang must pay what is effectively a salary to his Thai girlfriend for the duration of the relationship.
Excuse me if I sound like a "cheap Charlie" but this does not seem 100% correct to me. Is this the case across the board, by which I mean; do all Farangs pay their Thai girlfriend/wife?
If this is the case how does one go about assessing the appropriate amount to give to a partner? Under what parameters are such assessments made?
Do Thai men pay for Thai partners the same way Farangs do?
For clarity, I couldn't help but run some maths in my head after a lovely girl I met (from Issan) told me that if she wanted me to take care of her it would cost 50'000bhat per month (I could barely contain the laughter as it would effectively be half my monthly wage after tax).
I asked her what the average daily wage was in Issan, she said 300bhat.
I multiplied this by 7 (assuming the worker works every day) = 2100bhat
Then multiplied by 4 to the get average monthly wage for the average Issan worker = 8400bhat (i.e. a far cry from 50'000bhat)
I then did another approximation assuming the worker was a pretty female and left Issan to work in e.g. Patong, Phuket.
Assuming she commands a good fee of 3000bhat per customer and meets 4 customers per week her weekly income is 12000bhat
4 weeks per months, leaves her with a monthly average of 48000bhat
Assuming she meets an average of 16 customers per month and yields approx 50'000bhat she is looking for a Farang to supplement her current income when she gives up working upon entering a relationship.
I find this hard to accept on a number of fronts, namely;
As the years progress she will become less of an attractive commodity to sex tourists and therefore her fee will naturally have to reduce from 3000bhat per customer in order to attract customers, therefore does the amount she expects from Farang boyfriend also depreciate proportionally?
Also, assuming Farang marries her and buys house for them to live in etc... and she does not contribute and does not pay rent then how can he still be expected to pay a non-reduced salary to her?
Also, this business of also paying some bills towards her family, is this in any way negotiable?
Now, I will admit, the information I am using to make the aforementioned assumptions is based on a very small number of samples but it is consistent across all samples.
Just looking for thoughts from you guys, if the above estimations/assertions it almost seems cheaper to stay living in Farang land and get a Farang wife?
I will admit much of the attraction for living in Thailand for me (besides the sun, beautiful women and community based culture) is a minimised cost of living, but this does not seem possible if I have to pay money hand-over-fist to the woman who allegedly loves me.
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Hua Hin: DSI investigate Brit using Thai nominee in alleged 240 million baht property crime
in Hua Hin and Cha-Am News
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What is the process of using a Thai nominee, is it basically you your "trusted" Thai wife/friend/business partner buys the property using your cash in their own name?
Or is it a 51%/49% thing?
Or is it more complicated/secure for the falang than that?
Not here long just wondering how falangs attempt to go about buying land here.