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47 minutes ago, Blumpie said:
Thailand will not be open in October.
Since they been doing the EXACT opposite of what in my opinion should have been done ever since the Samut Sakhon outbreak in dec last year, then yes…
They will obviously open up in Oct…
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5 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:
I seem to remember some "doomsayers" (not my word!) were predicting a far worse doomsday scenario, on a par with India. At least we can be grateful they were wrong about that.
You do realize that Thailand have a much higher positivity rate than India right? At this point nobody can really tell if Thailand will end up worse than India or not. Theres not enough data yet.
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4 minutes ago, Kadilo said:New cases down
Quite misleading statement.
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41 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:Positivity rates are still extremely high which demonstrates that the real numbers of positive cases are not being found and far more testing is needed.
I dont even know what to say… Is there any other country in the world that have a higher positivity rate?
The majority of the tests here is even by walk-ins, meaning the initiative was taken by that tested persons own self.
Its just too frustrating especially since there are quite a few ppl here that been saying this would happen many months ago. Yet, nobody listened and no one did anything about it.
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2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:
Its low to the point of complete negligence, you can analyze it in more depth here https://djay.github.io/covidthailand/#testing
Thanks for the link.
Yeah thats why i asked, the positivity rate here is insane and yet i havent seen many people talking about it.
Its recommended to have a positivity rate below 5% so… we kind of way off on that.
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11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:
49,865 is the official pcr tests carried out yesterday, thats the nearest figure we can get. https://ddc.moph.go.th/covid19-dashboard/
Obviously that does not include the number of tests they do via rapid antigen
High number of Walk-ins and a low amount of testing…actually very low.
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Thanks but no tests unfortunally. I would say that they test around 50-60k daily and has been but i kind of need real figures. I seen this has been posted before but now i cant find it.
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Anyone that have a overview on the amounts of tests done for the last 2-4 weeks?
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8 hours ago, Bday Prang said:
Actually today in uk -: 1,072,576 tests, of which 2381 were positive! and 15 deaths within 28 days of a positive test. So not that much different from Thailand, except the number of tests. However I imagine the Thai testing is more focused on areas / people of concern, whereas the UK is testing anybody who wants testing even if they are from areas with very low infection rates. If you think about it, a negative test is actually, in reality a wasted test
I get your point but i just dont agree with saying the UK has a lower rate than Thailand. Very misleading, however a convenient excuse by some people here that want to try justify their own countries horrible handling of the pandemic. (Not talking about you btw)
So in theory i can do 10 tests, if 5 of those tests shows positive then thats a infection rate of 50%? Highest in the world?
The UK have over 4.4 million registered infections, Thailand dont even have over 100.000 but somehow UK have a lower covid rate?
We both know thats ridiculous.
I do agree with you about the testing. If Thai tested the same way the UK has (which i hope they do), the rate would be much lower in Thailand... at least for now.
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1 hour ago, retsdon said:
This Covid 'rate' you set such store by, how is it determined?
You were the one mentioned countries with lower covid rates than Thailand, not me.
Did the vaccine mess up your memory?
You were trying to make it sound that the UK had a lower covid rate than Thailand (L O L) and therefore having a quarantine would be useless in stopping mutations for vaccinated people.
Then when you realized that your arguments didnt hold up then you came up with the Myanmar narrative.
You also keep avoiding answering my questions so i guess they are too complicated for you...
Then you give me a quote without any link or source thinking you won the argument? ????
I can post 10 quotes that says otherwise but whats the point?
Arguing with you is like arguing with a 65 year old stubborn man that still think he is 35... or you might just be a simple covid denier?
Its funny how some people tend to complain and whine about a few extra days/expenses in quarantine rather than to care about the risks they put others around them in.
Then again, im not surprized. It was exactly that attitude that totally ruined the European countries in the first place so you must be proud of yourself.
PS. I would easily give you 20k to help you out if you cant afford it.
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8 minutes ago, retsdon said:
What about Myanmar? Very low rate there.....
So now you have narrowed it down to people...
*Already vaccinated
*From countries with lower covid rates than Thailand. (Your specific example “Myanmar”)
*Can afford to travel and can afford to pay for ASQ
To have a 14 day quarantine for people that fits this highly specific criteria, wont prevent mutations to spread.
Well, you got me there.
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1 hour ago, retsdon said:
That's what vaccines usually do. You mean to say you didn't know?
You are 'sure your home country'...you seem to know a lot about me. And what's my passport to do with anything?
And prove? All I said is that that my current residence country has a lower Covid rate than Thailand's. What's there to prove?
But other than it's a complete waste of B20,000, an extra 10 days doesn't bother me. As I said, at least I'm vaccinated (Pfizer).
I think you're just jealous...????
You are telling me that you know for sure that vaccines does 100% prevent infections and transmission even with the new mutations? Wow...
Even the worlds top scientists are not sure about this but somehow you are.
Or did you meant to say you didnt know?
My statement about your home country obviously was to justify quarantine in Thailand assuming you were talking about your home country.
“And how will slapping an extra 10 days quarantine onto fully vaccinated people coming from countries with lower covid rates than Thailand achieve that particular goal? “
Now you say you were NOT talking about your home country but a country that you now residence in. Hmm... Is that because you just realized that your home country have a much higher covid rate? Lol
Im still quite curious on which countries that have a lower covid rate than Thailand, i know a few but not many. And those who have, they have even MORE strict quarantine rules than Thailand.
And going back to your statement again, would you still stand by your statement if were to change it to countries with a HIGHER covid rate than Thailand?
If you are not bothered by 20,000 bht and an extra 10 days, then what is the problem?
Jealous of you? Because you can afford 20,000 bht? Yeah, you are amazing.
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6 minutes ago, retsdon said:
And how will slapping an extra 10 days quarantine onto fully vaccinated people coming from countries with lower covid rates than Thailand achieve that particular goal?
Does vaccine prevent infection and spread of the virus?
Which countries with lower covid rates are you talking about now? Im pretty sure your home country have a higher covid rate than Thailand... but feel free to prove me wrong.
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4 hours ago, drenddy said:
Where the ..... is the logic in asking vaccinated people to quarantine 14 days, when the surge in cases in driven by thais?
The point is to reduce the risks of mutations coming in.
Surge is driven by thais? And who is the surge driven by outside Thailand?
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6 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
A government spokesman also clarified that the new 14 day quarantine -- a return to the duration in effect prior to April 1 -- also will apply to inbound travelers who already have been vaccinated for COVID, if they've received their Certificate of Entry on or after May 1.
Finally some good news... ????
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4 hours ago, Lacessit said:
According to the World Obesity Foundation, one is ten times more likely to die from a COVID-19 infection if one is obese. Vietnam has one of the lowest death rates of this pandemic, and also the lowest level of obesity.
Come to think of it, when I was in Vietnam on holiday a few years ago, McDonalds, KFC and Pizza Hut were conspicuous by their absence.
Vietnam have a low death rate because a low infection rate. Low infection rate is because they closed the borders very early and dont let in any freedom loving covid deniers.
But i do think that asian countries have less obesity and it could be one of many reasons why the death rates is lower.
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5 minutes ago, mjnaus said:
Uhm, compared to the rather steep increases we have seen last week? Not quite sure why we would be comparing anything to Vietnam or Taiwan.
I dont really see how 15 deaths is good news... same as yesterday.
I like comparing with Vietnam and Taiwan, because thats living proof on how to deal with a pandemic...
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7 minutes ago, mjnaus said:Bummer for the "the sky is falling" brigade, but it looks like the numbers are leveling out. There will be usual moaners out here claiming the numbers are incorrect, false, weekend under-reporting, etc. But for those of use who didn't jump onboard the drama train, this is good news.
Good news compared to what?
A year ago? Six months ago? Vietnam or Taiwan? Hong Kong or Singapore?
Or you mean compared to your home country maybe?
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1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
I think, the way things are working right now, any western foreigner who tested positive for COVID in Bangkok, at least, probably would have the alternate option of serving their quarantine in a "hospitel" (hospital-hotel) room. But AFAIK, that would be at their personal expense or that of their insurance coverage.
I get what you are saying, but again.
I wouldnt see deniers jumping queue trying to get tested, even if they knew about hospitels.
Personal expense? Then forget it... ????
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6 minutes ago, phills2k1 said:
It's just so disheartening. I'm younger (in my 30's) and had been lucky enough to travel here multiple times the past few years. After my first extended trip, I knew I had to end up here eventually. And then as things deteriorated in the US to the point where I realized there was no hope for the country, that clinched it (and that was before covid)
I had a great business opportunity and came over, knowing how to respect the culture and doing everything I could to do so (I won't even cross my legs anymore when sitting, lest I point my feet), putting in the effort to to learn as much of the language as quickly as possible, and now it's all for f*cking nothing. All to sit here and witness the same exact mistakes and destruction I had to live through last year, only this time the country won't be able to rebound quite like my old one has.
Where to add insult to injury, the few times I walk the streets, I can feel the gaze of others judging me for being a farang, as if I'm responsible for this
I totally understand you. Thats why im going so hard against these deniers, they make all foreigners look bad unfortunally.
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3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
I believe, the MoPH has reported that the vast majority of COVID cases in Thailand thus far have been Thais, followed by a substantial number of Myanmar people. In comparison, western farangs are barely a blip on the statistical screen... not to say there are not some out there.
I am aware of that but i was referring to the people that i have seen walking around without masks and ignoring health guidelines. Those have so far been foreigners. (Westerners and non-westerners)
And then judging from what some people say here, many would choose not to get tested even if they have slight symptoms in fear of being forced to go to a field hospital.
I dont believe for a second that covid deniers would be first in line to get tested, would you?
Then on the other hand, the foreigners that are being careful probably have much less risk to get covid so they wouldnt even need to get tested in many cases.
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12 minutes ago, gjoo888 said:Three people on my small soi in Bangkok have tested positive after becoming ill and were taken to the hospital, and there's a good chance 3 or 4 more people will test positive. Plus, one large family whose parents were at the nightly parties left a few days ago for Phuket. These people have ignored all the protocols including mask wearing and having almost nightly parties for the last couple of weeks, with many of their friends who don't live on the soi joining in. All this was after the international school where they all worked was shut down because of positive cases where many of them were exposed. Their complete disregard for rules and protocols is mind-boggling, and shows exactly how the virus is easily spread.
Btw, none of these people were Thai.
Im not surprised at all.
Seen this myself too many times... none of those were Thai either.
And no, im not blaming only foreigners since there are quite a lot decent ones, even in here that seem to follow the rules and beyond even.
However, fact is there are still a lot of deniers that after totally ruined their own home countries, complaining about lockdowns and alco bans, they now want to come here and ruin Thailand aswell. Despite their first hand knowledge on covid, how easy it spread and the destruction that comes with it.
Then there are the local so called “Hi sos”. I dont see them as deniers/conspiracy theorists, i just see them as uninformed/stupid. I mean, they dont have any first hand experience on covid YET since Thai controlled it well during last year by closing borders + lockdown. Do you really think these Thong Lor cluster people will start talking about 5g chips inside the vaccines after this outbreak? I dont think so.
So to all the foreigners in here that follow the rules, that dont spread disinformation online, contribute to the society by raising awareness, even some of them helping out locals during this difficult times, my full respect to you.
To all you ridiculous deniers that i see on here everyday try to spread disinformation even though your arguments are so weak that even a 5 year old could counter them, just go away you hippies.
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4 minutes ago, hotelbri said:
The written word may appear unsympathetic , but is it incorrect
Not to mention ignorant.
I hope that you are not in Thailand for everyones sake.
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8 hours ago, Danderman123 said:
Yep, it is a real contradiction: the more control the government takes in the initial stages of the epidemic, the more freedom people have later on.
The anti-lockdown types will never understand this. Their response will be "China, Vietnam blah, blah, freedums, etc."
Its funny how anti-lockdown people dont even have enough braincells to understand that it is their anti-lockdown attitude/behavior that causes lockdowns in the first place.
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COVID-19: Thailand reports 17,491 coronavirus cases and 22,134 recoveries
in Thailand News
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You do realize that one of the reasons the nurses and volunteers working so hard right now is because of the lack of vaccines right?