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  1. Just now, Sujo said:

    What are you on about. My administration, australia, has nothing to do with US companies chosing to operate from china instead of the US. How on earth are china to blame for where a US company decides to operate.

     

    Blame trump for that. Make china great again.

    At first I wondered about what why he was slagging you. But then I realized that he was actually addressing President Trump. At least I hope I got that right.

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  2. 15 minutes ago, Susco said:

    Yes I know it is the same article, I linked it twice from credible media sources, just to show that is was no tabloid.

     

    "Zhao, an avid and often combative Twitter user, did not offer any evidence

     

    Has anybody yet offered any evidence from where it originates?

    The fact that the first outbreak was in China is already evidence. No one has come up with any evidence to show previous outbreaks elsewhere. So unless you resort to conspiracy theories, that's proof enough.

  3. 1 hour ago, Susco said:

     

    Maybe you should try to read the articles, since this IS Wuhan.

     

    You think that every credible newspaper in the world, as I can provide you as many links as you can digest, will publish the same false news?

    Did you actually read the articles? Had you done so you would have noted that they are not 2 articles but one. From the AP. They hardly seem supportive of Chinese claims: 

    "Zhao, an avid and often combative Twitter user, did not offer any evidence for his suggestion that the US military might be to blame for the outbreak in China."

  4. 1 hour ago, Susco said:

     

    I have read article that the first infection were 2 US soldiers on military exercise in November, and staying in a hotel near the Wuhan market.

     

    I don't know if that claim was credible or not.

     

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/03/13/asia-pacific/science-health-asia-pacific/china-us-military-brought-coronavirus/#.XrDzms2mwkI

     

    https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/us-military-may-have-brought-coronavirus-to-wuhan-says-china-in-war-of-words-with-us

    It's obviously false since there's not evidence of an outbreak previous to or concurrent with the Wuhan situation

  5. 25 minutes ago, billd766 said:

    How about because companies are in business to make a profit for themselves and their shareholders.

     

    To make a gadget in country A will cost x amount of $ and yield a profit of Y amount. However if country B can make the same item at a lower cost including freight then the company is likely to go to country B and sell the gadget at the same price and make more profit.

     

    If you don't understand that, then find out where Apple gets its I Phones made and why it went there in the first place.

     

    Of course Apple could make them in the USA but fewer people would buy them as they will be much more expensive.

    Yes. This is true. But for certain items, security considerations apply. Such as those things that will protect a country in the event of a pandemic. The extra cost is worth it. But for most things it makes no sense. Blaming China for the way workers are treated in the USA is a deflection.

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  6. 2 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

    As far as i can see the only mistake Flynn made (and it is a BIG mistake) was to admit to lying to save his son. Comey admitted he broke the rules sending up 'two guys' to the White House amidst all the hand-over chaos that is normal in new administrations. I am non-political and not from USA but the bias is for all to see - right there.

     

    35 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

    LOL.  All three articles address only the entrapment issue which the FBI handwritten notes indicate.  For one the articles don't make mention of any of the other relevant new facts surrounding the hand written notes.  For another that's not the only piece of exculpatory evidence to be revealed which bears on this case.

     

    Vox and WaPo.  LOL  The article in the Washington Examiner is a bit of a surprise.  Carl Bernstein?  LOL  They've even included a video of one of the worst 'journalists' out there, Brian Stelter, with Bernstein as a guest.  "I've talked to top officials in the FBI [regarding entrapment], and they say, 'No,'" Bernstein explained during an appearance on CNN's Reliable Sources on Sunday.  LOL  Yeah, ask the same FBI which had been withholding exculpatory information if they were entrapping Flynn with the expectation of receiving confirmation that they indeed did do that.  What a joke.

     

    Have you read any of the articles I've linked to?

    I read the first one which consisted mainly of surmises about what the evidence might be given that it either hasn't yet been produced or is still under wraps. If this is your idea of serious investigative journalism, then you and I have very different ideas about what constitutes serious evidence.

    As for Greg Jarrett's articles, the so-called investigative journalists who still cites Uranium One as evidence against Hillary Clinton, you've got to be kidding.

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  7. 8 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

    since they claim they have nothing to hide and did report everything why not allow an independent investigation, if nothing to hide and they did everything by the book then the independent investigation will come to that conclusion and all is well, no more China bashing or blaming, what are they afraid off

    Next thing you know, they'll be claiming executive privilege.

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  8. Just now, Mavideol said:

    China should start to worry about their behavior on the international world backlash/hostility

     

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/05/04/asia-pacific/china-report-us-tiananmen-global-backlash-coronavirus/

     

    The report, presented early last month by the Ministry of State Security to top Beijing leaders, including President Xi Jinping, concluded that global anti-China sentiment is at its highest since the 1989 Tiananmen Square crackdown, the sources said.

    Internal Chinese report warns Beijing faces Tiananmen-like global backlash over virus

    And China definitely deserves it. And it's good that they are being made uncomfortable and that mistrust of them has increased. Xi is a pretty clueless fellow in lots of ways. 

    The problem is that lots of people are using the misdeeds of China to excuse their own lapses.

  9. 7 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

    Then I'll ask you:  What material developments occurred recently which dramatically change the course of Flynn's case and why?

    Nice how you put your conclusion into said question. You should look up the meaning of the phrase "leading question." Who said these developments are "material"? Isn't that yet to be decided? And the same goes for "dramatically change the course of Flynn's case." Do they? Just because there's a lot of hullabaloo doesn't mean it will amount to anything in the end. Your question doesn't really indicate much detachment on your part, does it?

     

    Here are a few sources I've read:

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/carl-bernstein-reports-top-fbi-officials-dismiss-flynn-entrapment-claims

    https://www.vox.com/2020/4/30/21242695/michael-flynn-bill-priestap-notes-total-exoneration-trump-russia

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/fbi-notes-on-michael-flynn-unlikely-to-convince-judge-he-was-entrapped-legal-experts-say/2020/04/30/b340c55a-8b01-11ea-ac8a-fe9b8088e101_story.html

  10. 1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

    It has been tough for all especially the small businesses all round the world. The fact is that things will never be the same even after the infections and deaths declined significantly. A vaccine is the only solution but it is not a surety that the world can get one. SARS, Ebola still don’t have a vaccine. Big corporations have better chance of continuation but still uncertainty lingers especially for the airline, oil, big retails and travel industries. Small businesses will bear the biggest brunt of this drastic economic meltdown.  Some jobs will never come back and some businesses will close for good. US economy policies have not prepared the people with the basic necessities to survive financially and medically. Fault of previous governments and the FED. UBI may be the new normal. 

    Ebola does have a vaccine.

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  11. 9 hours ago, Selatan said:

    Trump and Pompeo better shut up or else they would embarrass themselves further with their lies:

    France’s first Covid-19 case 'dates back to December', flu retest shows

     

    Looks like China is unlikely to be the origin of the virus.

     

    First Covid-19 case happened in November, China government records show - report

     This article is more than 1 month old

    Earliest case detected on 17 November, weeks before authorities acknowledged new virus, says Chinese media

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/first-covid-19-case-happened-in-november-china-government-records-show-report

    Given that it was widespread in China before anywhere else, it is virtually impossible from an epidemiological standpoint that it began elsewhere.

  12. Just now, Tippaporn said:

    Again, you have no idea of what you're talking about.  Seriously.  I'm not saying that as a sleight.  Read the article from the Federalist which I just posted for an explanation.  Read any of the articles I've linked to in the last 10 pages to learn how new developments materially affect this case dramatically and why December 16th's ruling of last year is now moot.  Read and find out why Flynn didn't commit a crime.  Without current information you cannot possible comment accurately.

     

    BTW, my rebuttal did resort to fact.  The fact that you are not up to speed on current developments so addressing this topic as if it was 5 months ago means that in this present time you don't know what your talking about.  That should be logical enough and I hope you can follow it.

    Pointing out errors in logic in your posts or the sources you cite, doesn't mean I'm not up to speed on it. And the fact that you have demonstrated zero familiarity with counterarguments posted by many legal scholars seriously calls into question your belief that you are up to speed.

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  13. 3 minutes ago, rabas said:

    Discussion of the 5 eyes report by ForeignPolicy.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/04/coronavirus-lab-leak-trump-five-eyes/

    Your link goes to this:

    Key U.S. Allies Skeptical of Trump’s Coronavirus Lab Leak Claims

    Five Eyes members and intelligence analysts push back against attempts to pin the virus on Chinese biosafety mistakes.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/04/coronavirus-lab-leak-trump-five-eyes/

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  14. Just now, rkidlad said:

    You’re going to have to have two thoughts in your head at the same time. You can despise the CCP while at the same time despising Trump. This isn’t a “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” kind of scenario. The CCP isn’t and will never be your friend. 
     

    You’re free to point out all the faults of the US and their president. Keep pointing them out and if they hold any water, you might see Trump lose in the elections. As we learn, changes can be made. Unfortunately this isn’t the case with the CCP. They’re just doubling down and no matter how much we expose their lies and deceit, they have a leader for life. And if the CCP refuse to learn because they don’t have to, we can live in fear of another pandemic. 

    Considering that Eric Loh said that "US is a democratic country with a President that is acting like President Xi." it hardly seems he's ignoring the role China played in this pandemic. 

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  15. 4 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

    I actually have some amount of sympathy or some of the people protesting in state capitols to open things back up. The government never should have prescribed the lockdown without simultaneously providing a monthly UBI for the citizenry. The $1,200 they sent was used by many people to pay the previous month's bills. There should have been a program in place, open ended, given the lack of concrete timelines to provide sustenance to the populace such that they could get through this crisis. I blame both the Presidency and both branches of Congress. They sent trillions to those who support their campaigns and next to nothing to those whom they are meant to serve.

    Yet most people manage not to be as selfish as they are. 

  16. 1 minute ago, Tippaporn said:

    I didn't know that calling a lib a lib was name calling.  As to substantive replies, well, there's 10 pages of them.

     

    That's old, old news.  Doesn't apply anymore.  Factor in all of the latest developments.  If you aren't aware of the latest news regarding this case how can you hope to comment accurately?

    Calling someone a lib or a right winger is name calling when you use it as a sole rebuttal rather than resorting to fact or reason. 

    And even now, you still haven't offered any defense for invoking Flynn's defense lawyer. And the latest developments have no relevance at all to the claim that Flynn didn't break any laws. The judge has already dispensed with that legal theory. The issue is now the alleged "entrapment" which is an entirely different matter.

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