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On 6/23/2023 at 1:48 AM, Social Media said:
Campaigners promised leaving the EU would make the country richer and freer.
Brexit is fuelling Britain's cost of living crisis, according to the former Deputy Governor at the Bank of England Sir Charlie Bean.
Interviewed by BBC Radio 4 on Thursday, the economist said inflation appeared to be "worse" in Britain compared to other European countries.
When asked why, he explained the labour market was "much tighter" than on the continent, reflecting the exodus of half a million workers during the COVID pandemic.
"Brexit has made it harder for firms to suck in the extra labour they need at short notice from abroad," he said.
Labour shortages create inflationary pressure as businesses have to compete more by offering higher salaries, which feed into the economy.
Unemployment was at a historically low level of 3.8% in April, according to the Office for National Statistics, with the number of vacancies at record highs last year.Brexit has made it harder for EU nationals to come and work in Britain, though COVID also triggered many foreign workers to return home.
A series of suggestions by Adam Posen: the UK now has "little time for delusions of grandeur".
QuoteFirst is you have to be more straight and narrow on your macro policies, not austerity, not self-destructive austerity, but you have to be more cautious – not to be like Truss and Kwarteng, not promising to spend crazy amounts, because you’ve got less room for error. The markets will punish you.
“Second, you have to think in terms of structural reform. We, the UK, are world class in business services… we can attract all the world’s best students. We should be exporting those business services, those educational places, those cultural goods, lean into that, not waste money trying to be an industrial heavy-hitter.
“Third, going back to… austerity and public investment, the UK is at worst an emerging market. It’s not a developing country. It’s not a ruined country. You know, there is room to do public investment. The UK needs to prioritise the NHS, public transport, the power grid, water. [It has] to do better on nutrition for poor kids.
There are basic things that everybody recognises need doing.”
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/when-it-comes-to-brexit-things-can-only-get-worse/
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Apparently freedom of movement across Europe is widely endorsed
QuoteBrits want mutual free movement restored. 79% of us in a recent Omnisis poll believe we should have freedom to travel and work across Europe (88% after removing ‘don’t know’), and 73% believe, there should be ‘mutual free movement’ (84% after removing ‘don’t know’).
QuoteBrexit did not end free movement, as Priti Patel famously claimed. Rather, this government ended UK participation in mutual free movement, meaning that UK citizens lose all their free movement rights in over 30 countries that subscribe to it – and the citizens of all those other countries keep their access to over 30 countries on free movement terms – just not the UK. That’s quite a raw deal for ordinary Brits.
Now we are limited to staying no longer than 90 days in any of the EU’s member states or anywhere in the single market area apart from Ireland.
Originally, Brexiteers wanted to cherry pick the free movement of goods and services and not the free movement of people (although obv they should still be allowed to retire to Marbella).
For us Brit’s getting free movement on a whole continent in exchange for us getting free movement on one and a bit island doesn’t seem to be a very fair deal ?
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does Revolut work in Thailand ? If so just pay with your smartphone everywhere
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4 minutes ago, transam said:
He said "Because of Brexit" blah blah blah, so a kid from Sudan knows all about Brexit................Your 'story' does read like something out of a novel...
you just read the Guardian, one of the leading world newspapers, fiercely independent
congrats ????
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1 hour ago, CG1 Blue said:
Explain please - how has Brexit made it easier for a boat to get from France to the UK? Has it made the waves smaller?
The record number of Channel crossings is more likely due to the people trafficking industry expanding - because they make millions from it.
same perilous sea but smuggling is easier, because if they are caught they cannot be sent back.
Now they just have to cross the border in the middle of the Channel and it's just done, no “take charge” requests no expulsion
.. and no need to hide once you're in UK waters, you can just call the help hotline : 0043 50 43 112
Quotewhen the UK was part of the EU, under a mechanism known as Dublin the UK could ask other EU countries to take back people they could prove had passed through safe European countries before reaching the UK.
The UK could make “take charge” requests and officials were often able to prove that asylum seekers had passed through other countries thanks to the Eurodac fingerprint database. But since Brexit the UK no longer has access to that database, so it is harder to prove definitively which other European countries small boat arrivals to the UK have previously passed through.
so it's technically less dangerous since you're able to call the lifeboat halfway out
One 19-year-old man from Sudan who is currently in Calais said: “We believe we will not be safe unless we can reach the UK. Here the French police beat us and evict us every day from the places where we are sleeping outside. It brings back bad memories from Libya where I was locked up and beaten many times by traffickers. Because of Brexit I believe that once I reach the UK I will be safe at last. No Dublin, no fingerprints any more.”
He said he had no money to pay smugglers and would try to find a way to cross with a small group of friends in an abandoned kayak. “Every night we go to the beach to look for small boats that have been abandoned and we will try to cross that way.”
in a kayak.... god
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5 hours ago, sandyf said:
LONDON — Three things are certain in life: death, taxes, and U.K. Tory leaders flirting with leaving the European Convention on Human Rights.
I like that one
QuoteBoris Johnson
After May’s departure, it was down to the ever-consistent Boris Johnson to try and crack this particular Tory nut.
Johnson — who had previously described the ECHR as “one of the great things we gave to Europe
“one of the great things we gave to Europe"
thank you Boris
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5 minutes ago, transam said:I don't care what it cancelled, just get on with getting stuff sorted to stop/remove the spongers....????
well you just can't "get stuff sorted" refugees who have fled a variety of conflict zones including Sudan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq and Eritrea are there
....and the UK must take its share there no way around this and it's a good think the UK stopped being an EU member and now starts having to take its responsibilities.
anyway the country is in dire need of builders (in London half of them are foreign), fruit pickers, carers for the elderly....
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1 hour ago, transam said:
I avoid more Brexit stuff
why are you even debating about returning refugees to their previous country of travel then?
Do you even realize Brexit cancelled the Dublin III Regulation which enabled the UK to return asylum seekers to EU Member States without considering their asylum claims?
apparently this is what you would like to do, but sorry, this is not possible anymore, because of "Brexit stuff".
Brexit has made it considerably easier for small boat crossings to reach the UK that's why record numbers of people cross the Channel now.
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On 3/11/2023 at 9:48 AM, transam said:It's a shallow water landing craft, dump them to the exact place they got into the rubber thing......
it seem does some credulous brexiteers have been promised that, but no you can't do that to a sovereign state, declaration of war aside.
Now you left the EU you just have to keep them, it turns out
as a matter of fact just quitting the European convention on human rights (drafted by British MP and lawyer Sir David Maxwell-Fyfe) by making cross-border law enforcement harder will stop police cooperation and even threatens the TCA
so no @transam, here you can write whatever you want, but this is not going to happen: Boris promised but didn't deliver, and Rishi won't do it because the UK really needs to mend its economy and have good relations with its neighbours
The good news is the UK might put some post-Brexit customs arrangements in place (EU customs have been implemented in 2021 but sadly the UK didn't yet find the resources to do the same). In the same manner as your "made in France" blue passports, some of your post-Brexit border checks have been outsourced to a French company
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we have a good summary of the SB here :
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2 hours ago, transam said:
The UK should have the Royal Navy on standby with one of these below. As the rubber things land, they are ushered onto it. Then they are taken back to where they departed and disembarked, the vessel has no need to dock.....Job done...........????
Where would you drop these people with that barge? As you know, whith brexit the UK has lost any possibility to expel to neighboring countries.
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4 hours ago, placeholder said:Why aren't these refugees seeking asylum in France?
Uk has a very strong "pull factor"
Quotethe lack of national identity cards and a poorly controlled labour market in Britain, saying the ease with which people can work illegally is a significant pull factor,
and a lot of migrating families crossing the channel in small boats come from Afghanistan, which is in a terrible state under Taliban rule (and the UK just let them down).
The UK should set up an asylum processing centre in northern France so claims could be processed there, allowing people to travel legally to the UK if accepted, instead of dying during the crossing and having to pay their way to smugglers
as for the illegals
QuoteFrance expels about 20,000 illicit migrants a year while Britain manages 6,000 – about four times less than France, despite the fact that the UK gets about half as many illicit migrants
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also Sunak is in France today and will pay 543M€ to help fight "illegal immigration"
as you know since Brexit, the UK cannot send just back migrants to their previous point of travel (=other European countries).
personally, I'm happy that we have again someone reliable to cooperate with, but not satisfied with France doing the dirty job with a detention centre and hundred of kilometer of beaches to watch. We are not Rwanda
people seeking asylum should be able to have their request processed without having to cross the Channel first. Asylum is a vital human right
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that could be expected when you put grownups in charge
like on this thread instead of
- a anti-euro fanatic like @JonnyF whose extremist attitude (on this thread https://bit.ly/3F2bBsL) "corrupt EU", "EU tentacles"
- you put in charge people a bit like @RayC with a clear vision of both differences and common ground
.. solutions appear. After all, the EU is a negotiating machine.
And British diplomacy is (or at least used to be) the very best of the world. Though brexiteers sacked the most skilled diplomats when taking power ("traitors"), there are apparently still some who can take over, and rebuild trust.
Now the UK still has brexiteers in power for 2 more years, a political system with "no written constitution" which means 50.1% can act as if they had 100% and do whatever they please, including breaking treaties voted by parliament and with Great Seal of the Realm.
A real guarantee of political stability and upholding international commitment would be to abolish First pass the post and have a UK constitution with a qualified majority system. Until then, every treaty of deal with the UK can go void anytime.
Now ironically Sunak appear more pro-Europe than Starmer
QuoteHaving publicly extolled the virtues of Northern Ireland’s access to the single market on Tuesday, Rishi Sunak was momentarily so engorged by exciting economics he forgot the ideological implications of what he was saying, while Tory advisers chewed off their feet backstage. The Tory Brexiter Sunak is now a more enthusiastic supporter of the EU than the Labour remainer Keir Starmer.
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Inside story of the deal: How an ‘unholy trinity’ of UK civil servants ensconced in a Brussels basement thrashed out EU agreement.
Quotefew could have predicted that less than six months later, all angry talk of a cross-Channel trade war would be a distant memory, with Britain and the EU striking a remarkable compromise deal over post-Brexit trade rules in Northern Ireland.
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better and better: we have Charles and Camilla coming over
Quote“The visit will celebrate the UK’s relationship with France and Germany, marking our shared histories, culture and values,” he said.
“It is also a chance to look forwards and show the many ways our countries are working in partnership, whether that be to tackle climate change, respond to the conflict in Ukraine, seize trade and investment opportunities or share the best of our arts and culture.
read : the Uk is on the fast Track to get back into Horizon-Europe
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4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:
His job at the time isn't the important issue , the point is that Boris was referring to the people whom he was negotiating with and he wasn't referring to all French people , just the group whom was negotiating with
.. not to mention he had "no recollection" of having said it.
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24 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:
To keep it in perspective , Boris wasn't referring to all French people , Boris was frustrated with how the French negotiators were conducting themselves in the Brexit talks and thats who he referred to , the French negotiators at the Brexit talks
I was not referring to Boris Johnson as a prime minister but as a U.K. foreign minister
https://www.politico.eu/article/boris-johnson-french-turds-bbc-footage/
but this is just one of many times when UK diplomacy, which used to be very the best of the world, was wrecked when Brexiteers "took control" (and sacked its most talented diplomats).
As soon as Sunak started his Bromance with Macron, some "non-negotiable" issues with Northern Ireland being in the single market suddenly disappeared
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3 hours ago, RayC said:
Croatia had little choice but to adopt the Euro and it is far too early to form any opinion about whether its' adoption by them is a success.
I read that practical Euro use in Croatia has been going on for years
3 hours ago, RayC said:The problem - as I explained in a previous post - occurs at a macro level: It is almost impossible for the ECB to reconcile the - often conflicting - monetary needs of all 20 Eurozone states and that causes problems in the wider economy.
indeed, and the Eurozone cannot really work unless other measures are implemented (tax rates convergence, setting up budgetary transfers from rich to poor regions....). That's why it Brexit is so useful: the UK was the main (though not the only) member blocking these advances.
note the USA has very heterogeneous states in its federation and the dollar works ?
3 hours ago, RayC said:I'm sure that you will enjoy your holiday in Croatia. A beautiful country. Can I suggest that you visit Plitvice National Park. Simply stunning.
thanks a lot!
Right now we are working on this (your browser will probably translate this page)
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48 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:
Sounds terrible...................................can we re-join the E.U ?????
that would be an excellent idea, but neither party wants it at the moment.
- For UK politicians the "B word" is taboo.
- For UE public opinion, the Brexit divorce is now history and we have problems aplenty, so no one really cares: near-zero coverage of the Windsor Framework.
Most experts say no membership candidacy before 10-20 years, I think it's reasonable, but both Britain and the EU will be very different then.
Right now I think the priority is rebuilding the bridges which have been burned down, the good new is the tide seems to turn. No more Boris Johnson (His "The French are little t*rds" did not go down well at all).
besides, Brexit is not as loose-loose as Ray would have it: to a large extend, EU countries want to go on taking or recovering pieces of the UK "economic cake": industrial sites, stock market transactions, euro bonds, foreign students... so, on the EU side there is a lot a wariness about a big quick rapprochement.
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1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:
Yes, but my point is that that isn't "serious devaluation" and the Pound was over valued before Brexit and needed to come down a bit and also having a strong currency is a double edged sword .
In theory, a weaker currency makes the country poorer but fosters exports and attracts foreign investments.
For 6 years now, the UK has had a weaker currency, weaker exports and less investments. A horrible loose-loose-loose mix.
Year after year after year, Brexit has proved not an outright catastrophy, but a continuous"slow puncture".
And after years running on flat tires, there are considerable consequences.
Brexit might not have been about purchasing power only, but instead about immigration and above all "sovereignty" but a poorer state and population means reduced sovereignty.
And the worst thing now is: no real improvement in sight...
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23 minutes ago, JonnyF said:
You should provide links, not only screenshots. Unless you are trying to hide the source because it's from some anti British Europhilesrus website like The Guardian.
Automotive News specialized automotive press, europe branch : you can select my quote and left-click google to find the article
now what about this fact itself? Are you conscious how serious the situation is?
read the BBC news site last months Brexit induced :
1/ a productivity problem
QuoteBrexit has dealt the UK economy a "productivity penalty" of £29bn, or £1,000 per household, a Bank of England policymaker has said.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-64623488
2/ an investment problem last time I looked it up and before the pandemics, it was -11% across the whole economy
Quotethe United Kingdom experienced a drop in private investment of around 11% between 2016 and 2019
.. all this in spite of a serious devaluation of the pound (I guess you experience this in Thailand)
so the current problem with the food bills or the NHS is just the tip of the iceberg : the future IS bleak, we KNOW
While, I quite agree with you that "money is not all that matters" and that Brexit is no Armageddon either, there is a very very serious issue there.
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5 minutes ago, placeholder said:
If you are a French person, I'm not surprised that you are pleased with the Euro. France gets the benefits and disregards the rules
France routinely has a budget deficit more than the 3% allowed by the EU Euro treaties.
How France gets away with breaking EU rules on its budget deficit every year.
"The European Commission then writes to the French finance minister to express its concern and ask for corrections. The finance minister replies by apologizing profusely, swearing that he or she agrees wholeheartedly with Brussels, but that this year - this year only - France will have to break the rules because of some exceptional circumstances, whatever they are. Then it’s on to the next year, for a routine repeat."
*Cough*
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4 hours ago, placeholder said:
Absolutely. Which is why the Euro was a mistake. I don't understand why the most recent entrants have adopted it Unless the rules were changed and now they have no choice.
... then maybe the Euro was not at all a mistake (unless croats are total idiots of course)
btw I'm extremely happy with the Euro and we're heading for Croatia at Easter with the Euro and the superb scenery, not Portugal/Spain/Italy this year!
BREXIT is fuelling Britain's cost of living crisis, according to the former Deputy Governor at the Bank of England
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readable link : https://archive.ph/gm6Qy
another interesting piece of advice
another acknowledgement in the ft
https://archive.md/4DdFw