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I came here as a 21 year old in 1979. Got a great job here mid 80’s (and stayed) ...never perceived thailand as a retirement place, don’t then don’t now. So it was a shock to see all these old guys turning up here, when I never saw many (any) in the 80’s and 90’s...it seems many come with very few resources also. Nightmare waiting to happen.
thailand at a certain age, with limited support, resources, understanding of things here..if things go belly up..relying on a family in the back of beyond is not a strategy.
i go back frequently to the Uk..I have high regard for the uk. I will probably do 6 months Europe and 6 months here...the support systems in place there and the quality of available health care far outstrips what will be available here to most retirees.
the weather can be so bad back in Europe, also the tax implications...
You need quite a bit of retirement income to live here in my opinion..that of course is contrary to what many on here state..so many on here invest to much emotionally in Thailand and don’t want to see the downside.
Thailand has lovely people but such poor governance, it’s dispiriting..it’s been heartbreaking to watch this country treat its poor so badly, poor education system etc..
Access to a good quality of living with good services including medical comes at a price it always has in Asia, those resources are monopolised by the rich. I am very well off but I just don’t see the benefits of aging here “ full time”.
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2 hours ago, Neeranam said:
Are you perhaps mixing citizenship up with permanent residency?
It's only 5000 baht for citizenship.
For me, it a big deal to be able to start my own company and buy property.
One added bonus would be to tell a couple of immigration officers to go **** themselves ?
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I had my own company without either, house I bought for the wife ( after 15 years of marriage) condos in my name.
the last point..can't deny that..
i just thought if Thailand at some point made it very difficult for foreigners to live here, whether I had permenant residency or not I wouldn't stay.
But I have always felt that my stay in Thailand is sort of temporary, never imagined retiring here..it's only become a recent phenomenon and I am still convinced it's not suitable for many.
this feeling of take it or leave it I think has served me well. My language skills are good I have made a lot of money here , more than I would at home, but as I have grown older I have almost become more disengaged from the country. I prefer foreign friends, in the house we have always spoken English..
i have gone way off topic..but the Thai residency, citizenship thing I have always found a bit unnecessary but your points are good ones..
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^^^ nor me, lived here and worked here 35 years, been offered it, don't want it..no big deal..
i meant my company at at the time offered to put me through the process, at their cost..sorry, slightly loose with words there!
i still don't get it, why some think it's a big deal.
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^^^ nor me, lived here and worked here 35 years, been offered it, don't want it..no big deal..
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On 12/02/2016 at 11:11 AM, jak2002003 said:
Thailand has lots of universities... Huge areas of national parks (127 of them) and forests for 'green spaces'.
Housing is very affordable.. out in the countryside you can even build your own without all that expensive planning permissions and regualtions.
Transport is better here than in the UK.... the Song Taews are very cheap.. and regular. You can get almost anywhere on them.. so don't need a car. In the UK the bus and train service is bad.. If you live in a rural village its likely there is no public transport service there.. and taxies cost a small fortune. Even regular bus services outside London.. are only a few busses each day and only stop at set stops. They are expensive and dirty and you are likely to get mugged or attacked by teenagers on them.
Much more living space here too.. All the houses in my village have lots of land... you can go walking in the mountains.. and even the sizes of houses on the new style Moo Baans are bigger than those you get on the estates in the UK.
Seems the Thai economy is doing well... better than the Euro.. just ask Spain. And research the European Debt crisis.
I would rather go to a government hospital here than go to a National Health Hospital in the UK.. at least here there are staff and no super bugs to kill you. Having had many family and friends in the UK tell me horror stories about their care.. and I have seen it myself... allowing people to starve to death in the hospitals as they can't feed themselves.. and putting off their operations.. going on strike.. and letting people get worse and worse.. not changing their bandages or leaving them in soiled clothes for hours at a time.....
And why does a country have to have a democracy to be considered a developed country? You really think that America and Europe have no corruption? http://economyincrisis.org/content/political-corruption-on-the-rise
In the UK we only really have the choice of two political parties that are basically the SAME. And they promise so much.. but seldom deliver it.
This is a reflection of your bias towards the uk and a total ignorance of what living in Thailand is for average Thais and what good things the UK has to offer....something is only affordable because there is little demand for it..you sound old and retired..I have come to dislike foreigners who despise their own country it says more about them than the country they are criticising..they bring nothing to this country I have called home for nearly 35years and am not even at retirement age..your ignorance is breath taking ( borderline delusional) and is the only reason I have bothered to reply..
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Pay in advance at the juristic office. You will not be cut off. Water is different from electricity. Electricity is billed directly to the unit owner. Water bills ( in condos) are normally billed through the juristic office at an agreed rate. The water bill will normally cover water useage in the common area as well.
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Lived and worked in both..Thailand wins, no contest, even though Thailand is deteriorating..but as with everywhere else it's all about how much money you have, where you live, education, hospitals, safety..
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The handshake is not a comparable guesture. It is an easy rule if one offers a handshake it is a form of greeting, it has no social nuances behind it.A wai is more than that, depending on whom, context etc..
Not doing so is not a form of arrogance or ignorance. It is better to project your politeness in different (western manner) than do an incorrect wai. Thais do not get offended, this was told to me in my first job in BKK in mid 80's and has been my experience ever since.
when they opened that huge Tesco lotus on Rama 4 and the staff started wai-ing as matter of fact , not even bothering to look at you...then it started to lose it meaning and I very rarely use it now.
why is it disrespecting Thai culture when so many of their own disrespect it now..you need to lighten up..you are in essence trying to reflect your thainess onto other foreigners who you don't seem to regard in much high regard...
The language is a different issue..you could wai or not wai, you could do a great wai or a poor one, but if you speak Thai the impression you will create is a good positive one..initially, and yes it only about initial impressions..of course if you do the proper wai and speak Thai your quids in..
over the years of working here, the disparity of wealth, the treatment of the poor and disadvantaged, the abuse of privilege, the lack of universal good education, the endemic corruption at the institutional level etc..there is a lot that needs to be addressed...foreigners not wai-ing is not ignorance or arrogance, and even if you think it is, it doesn't compare to that already firmly intrenched in large sections of Thai culture.
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On 1 April 2017 at 3:22 PM, transam said:
Rubbish...........
Could not agree more. So much uniformed stuff written on here now..how many are really available to the foreigners who come here...dream life..again more nonsense, life can be difficult here just like at home, even more so if you live in the poorer parts of Issan, live on a fixed income and are getting older.
If you come to Thailand just to find a women then you probably won't find a good one or have a dream life..you should come first and foremost for the adventure and that you actually like the country..then let the rest fall into place.
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Working here gives you a greater understanding and exposure to different types of Thais, how things are are for them, business and work practices, legal practices.
Travel does not for the average 50+ brigade.
part timers know very little, because they just repeat the same experience.
plus this board is dominated by experiences in Issarn from retirees married to a poorly educated women point of view ....that in itself is limiting, so when people comment on general Thai behaviour it's very narrow and for the most part something I don't recognise and I have lived here since I left university 39 years ago. There are some universal truths but I only see those from people who have been here a long time, then I recognise those who know something.Part timers have no clue..yes experience is everything. Experience of traveling here, marrying here, educating your children here, made unemployed here, being sick here, needing the police here, using the courts and institutions, knowing your rights even, not bending over because you are a farang like most farang do here..and most of all knowing the language..no a part timer will no very little..they don't even have the opportunity to observe as they are not here..and from the post made on here, that is evident.
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My daughter came in on a British passport under the age of 18. Exited on her Thai passport using the automatic gates. There were a number of years between entry and exit, but follow the advice above and exit using the automated system.
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There have always been opportunities here, if you have the right skills and gumption. I came here as a young lad in the early 80's, there were opportunities then, but most of all you need luck.( right time, right place, meet or know the right person) and retired young..I made my money here..so it's not inconceivable.
its not about being set in your ways, it's about not fully understanding the types of opportunities there are at any given time. People who come here at a certain age for retirement frankly have no idea.
My my own impression is that it is much harder today. I was one of a very small group of professional foreigners, you could swimg it abit back then and relatively pay was much better then on offer today. 100k ain't that much anymore.
there are too many come here on a hope and a pray, it's a tough country like anywhere else if you don't have the money.
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The world would be so much better if people stopped believing in fantasy, never seen a bar tell a temple to shutdown for its belief
Yes, the world would be so much better with more bars and fewer temples.Once again the ugly head of religion rears its smug face to tell you what's right and wrong!People believe in all manner of fantasy.
So you think temples are telling bars to close down?
Indirectly, yes. The temples tell it to the government and the government tells it to the bars.
So it could be the people telling the temples, in which case it's what the people want, yes?
I don't think that the people tell the temples because the majority of Thai people is alcoholic.
While I think it fair to say the Thais you come in contact hanging around in crappy bars likely are, that simply has not been my experience.
You are completely wrong. Even in the " good old days" I met some NGOs who were upcountry doing some work on early deaths in rural women of a certain age..alcohol. Not saying it's endemic but it was a problem 30 years ago, probably bigger now..
Alcohol use is a problem in Thailand..thought that was common knowledge.
Completely wrong indeed. You know more about my experience than I do?
I never claimed alcohol was not a problem, but the idea that the majority of Thais are alcoholic is ridiculous.
So if you or the other nut-sack making that claim have nothing more to back it up than your own experience I'll go with my own experience.
Of course that statement is ridiculous but your initial reply of bars etc...standard reply was off the mark. Don't need to insult to make a point. It is a big issue..alcohol however you wish to frame it.
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The world would be so much better if people stopped believing in fantasy, never seen a bar tell a temple to shutdown for its belief
Yes, the world would be so much better with more bars and fewer temples.Once again the ugly head of religion rears its smug face to tell you what's right and wrong!People believe in all manner of fantasy.
So you think temples are telling bars to close down?
Indirectly, yes. The temples tell it to the government and the government tells it to the bars.
So it could be the people telling the temples, in which case it's what the people want, yes?
I don't think that the people tell the temples because the majority of Thai people is alcoholic.
While I think it fair to say the Thais you come in contact hanging around in crappy bars likely are, that simply has not been my experience.
You are completely wrong. Even in the " good old days" I met some NGOs who were upcountry doing some work on early deaths in rural women of a certain age..alcohol. Not saying it's endemic but it was a problem 30 years ago, probably bigger now..
Alcohol use is a problem in Thailand..thought that was common knowledge.
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I would guess around 30K baht would be enough for everything incl. insurance.
And don't listen to the miserable bastards on this forum about their "worry or care" for your children related to moving to Thailand nor homeschooling, they are just full of faeces.
Based on what assumption. If you can't afford a really good education for your children ( which is expensive) then you shouldn't be here.
I worried so much I use to work 15 hour days to put my child thru international school..
If you haven't got the money, then stop justifying it as faeces..
Many stay here not because it's better for the child, because it is better for them..
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That's good of you Tony. Yes please. I am a carer for my disabled son and find it difficult to get time to sit at the old laptop. Doing the visas etc was very difficult because of this.
You sound like a fantastic father.
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If they do it constantly it's a reflection on them, and their frustration with themselves,happy people are not continuously abusive, but otherwise not to be taken seriously..
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What about opportunity costs of buying. There is absolutely no economic sense to buying currently when rents are so cheap. Appreciation is very doubtful. You buy for emotional reasons here in general not as an investment, and then only condos in your own name can be classified as such.
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Don't marry. Learn to be independent of anyone, before finding the one that is " different". The language thing is not as important as some on here think. At 65 who has the time inclination or need. Basic Thai will do.
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Mandatory overtime for over 8 hours a day.
Mandatory 30 days sick days a year
Mandatory 30 days pay per month
Mandatory 15 paid holidays per year
Mandatory 30 days notice to terminate
Mandatory severance pay
Minimum wage has doubled in the last few years
I work for a pretty typical company compensation wise, and everyone gets monthly bonuses and allowances, and an annual bonus of one to four months pay, this year it was 89 days pay.
Yes, working conditions here are hideous.
Worked for some very high profile Thai ( owned and run ) companies, they are the worst to work for in Asia by a mile. The best companies have a high level of western management which attracts really good Thai quality staff, that is, multi nationals.
You are right the benefits are supportive, but good quality staff don't think about those things they just move on.
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Support your wife and let her stop working.
Why? The most successful marriages I have witnessed here are when the wife is working..
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Can someone ( for next year) set out some basic criteria as to what a poty is suppose to represent. Although it evident that Nancy does great things outside of thaivisa...transman contributes in a lot of forums..surely that in itself should have made him the winner. But well done. Recognition is always to be appreciated.
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The foreign owner of a condo can have a blue house book but cannot be registered in it.
I just bring a copy of my Tabien Ban (blue book).What about a condo owner? Will just the yellow book do? Should I bring the blue, too?
Blue?
Are you Thai?
At my local tessabaan, they added my name ( in writing ) plus referenced the sales contract.
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If anybody met me they would say i am very respectful to thais and get on very well with them.I know i should be beaten possibly even shot for my overstay i will pray for forgivenes daily
Just pray you don't do it after March..
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Huay Yai area
in Pattaya
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Hello
can anyone give me feedback on a good estate to look at when looking to purchase a villa with a pool. The Baan Balina estates seem to be quite high profile.
any feedback would be appreciated, mostly looking for a secure well managed estate, as my daughter will only use the villa periodically. So security is a key factor.
i don’t know the area at all, although have driven around there a few times.
thanks.