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A majority of Americans now disapprove of Israel’s war against Palestinian militant group Hamas in Gaza, with support dropping from 50 percent in November to 36 percent this month, according to a new poll.
But approval of Israel’s war is divided along party lines, with 64 percent of Republicans supporting the military action in Gaza, compared to just 18 percent of Democrats.
Among independents, support for Israel’s military action in Gaza dropped from 47 percent to 29 percent in the same time frame.
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Ireland will intervene in an International Court of Justice case filed by South Africa against Israel alleging genocide in Gaza, Minister for Foreign Affairs and Defence Micheál Martin said Wednesday.
“Analysis and consultation has now concluded. Ireland will be intervening,” Martin said. “I want to reiterate clearly what we witnessed on October 7 in Israel, and what we are currently seeing in Gaza, constitutes a blatant violation of international humanitarian law on a massive scale.”
https://www.politico.eu/article/ireland-intervene-on-behalf-south-africa-icj-case-against-israel/
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2 hours ago, Jingthing said:Again your paranoid vision of all this ending with an Arab free Gaza is incredibly remote. Israel itself isn't even Arab free.
You literally just accused another poster of an ad hominem for saying you're paranoid. I can't believe it..
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11 minutes ago, Jingthing said:You're speculating only.
Your assertion that Gaza will be Arab free is incredibly unlikely.
That's your opinion only. Israel did order civilians to leave northern Gaza, we know that for a fact. We can also assume that they will not level Rafah while the civilians are there. Israel can't attack Rafah with that density of civilians in situ. That would be slaughter. The only rational conclusion is that they would order them to leave. Now, where is any statement by an Israeli official that civilians will be permitted to return to northern Gaza? We both know there is none.
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1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:
A great summary of the situation.
Agreed. This really is a must watch video.
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13 minutes ago, Jingthing said:
Yes he did.
Perhaps you might consider not doing the same yourself?
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12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:
Government officials say a lot of things. That doesn't mean it is actual policy. You have clearly said the intention is to make Gaza Arab free permanently. It's obvious that is almost definitely not going to happen.
If cabinet members say it that's official policy. Cabinet members don't go around saying things are are the antithesis of government policy.
The Israeli government ordered people to leave northern Gaza. Why wouldn't they do the same for Rafah? That's forced displacement aka ethnic cleansing.
You admit that they will do it "temporarily". That doesn't make it not ethnic cleansing. Point to a single statement by any Israeli cabinet member that claims Gazans will be permitted to return. Your protestation that it's just temporary is nothing more than a propaganda talking point.
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8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:
So you're being a little more honest now.
There is no current policy to have Gaza be Arab free (as Hamas policy IS a Jew free Gaza).
A number of senior Israeli government officials, specifically cabinet members, have stated that the civilian population should be relocated out of Gaza. I don't know why you keep denying that.
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5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:
Israel Must Invade Rafah
No viable alternative paths exist for defeating Hamas.
Following the historic American abstention from the UN Security Council resolution calling for an Israel–Hamas ceasefire in Gaza for the duration of Ramadan, the West is waiting to see how the situation develops on the ground. But with Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu signaling that a full-scale invasion of Rafah to take out Hamas’s final stronghold will indeed commence, it’s worth examining what makes the United States’s abstention so significant and how it will affect Israel’s war effort, if at all.
https://www.city-journal.org/article/israel-must-invade-rafah
The obvious choice is the ICJ. Israel just needs to follow the majority of countries and sign up. If the population is expelled to Egypt then Hamas will go with them, achieving exactly nothing.
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5 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:
ChatGPT is fairly generic, it looks like an insurance job - the cost of rebuilding god only knows.
If the Baltimore bridge collapsed after being hit by a Singaporean container ship, who would be responsible for rebuilding it and how much would it costChatGPTIf a Singaporean container ship were involved in the collapse of the Baltimore bridge, the responsibility for rebuilding it and the associated costs would depend on a variety of factors including the cause of the incident, liability agreements, insurance coverage, and legal proceedings. Here's a breakdown of potential scenarios:
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Liability Determination: An investigation would be conducted to determine the cause of the bridge collapse and assess liability. If the collision with the Singaporean container ship was deemed to be the primary cause of the collapse, the shipping company, its insurers, or both could be held liable for damages.
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Insurance Coverage: The shipping company would likely have marine insurance coverage to protect against liabilities arising from accidents or collisions. This insurance could potentially cover the costs associated with the bridge collapse, including damage to the bridge itself, compensation for any injuries or fatalities, and reimbursement for economic losses incurred by businesses and individuals as a result of the disruption.
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Legal Proceedings: Legal proceedings may ensue to determine fault and allocate responsibility for the incident. This could involve negotiations between the shipping company, its insurers, government agencies, and other stakeholders to reach a settlement agreement or court judgment regarding liability and compensation.
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Rebuilding Costs: The cost of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge would depend on various factors including the extent of the damage, the complexity of the reconstruction, and prevailing construction costs. Rebuilding a major bridge is a significant undertaking that could cost hundreds of millions to billions of dollars, depending on the size and design of the structure.
Overall, the process of rebuilding the Baltimore bridge after a collision with a Singaporean container ship would likely involve a combination of insurance coverage, legal proceedings, and coordination among various stakeholders to ensure that the bridge is restored in a timely and cost-effective manner.
ChatGPT can make mistakes. Consider checking important informa
I think Lloyds of London is the main shipping insurer.
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23 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:
There are 650 UK M.P's and it was signed by 107 M.P's and there are over 800 Peers .
So, it was signed by 130 of the 1450 M.P's & peers .
What is that ?
About 8% of M.P's and Peers who signed it ?
Good, I hope they do embargo arms sales to Israel. No country should be selling arms to any country on trial for genocide.
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1 hour ago, Jingthing said:That horrible song on TV does NOT prove in any way whatsoever that it is official Israel government policy to clear Gaza of all Palestinians!
STOP LYING.
You know, I kind of feel that the obsessive Israeli demonization brigade WISHES their worse accusations against Israel turn out to be true so that their hatred of Israel spreads even wider than it already has.
As many have said including me, there are two wars. The war war and the propaganda war. Israel was always going to win the war war. But Hamas is winning the propaganda war. That was their aim all along.
To wit:
How the spectacle of Palestinian terrorism changed the world | The Hill
You don’t need to be a terrorism expert to read the tea leaves about this. Hamas welcomes the high number of dead civilians to create international condemnation of Israel. That same calculus is at work when Hamas fires rockets from hospitals, schools and apartment buildings inviting devastating Israeli responses.
The violence of the Palestinian cause is thus one the world seems to find consistent sympathy for, despite the utter barbarism of Hamas’s strategy and tactics. A far better approach would be to actively help the Palestinian people resist Hamas’s cynical strategy to use Israel to continually “keep Palestinians radicalized . . .
You know what's more barbaric than killing 1,200 civilians in a terror attack? Killing 20,000 civilians by indiscriminate bombing and starving millions of others, in fact 100% of the population.
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1 hour ago, Jingthing said:That horrible song on TV does NOT prove in any way whatsoever that it is official Israel government policy to clear Gaza of all Palestinians!
STOP LYING.
You know, I kind of feel that the obsessive Israeli demonization brigade WISHES their worse accusations against Israel turn out to be true so that their hatred of Israel spreads even wider than it already has.
As many have said including me, there are two wars. The war war and the propaganda war. Israel was always going to win the war war. But Hamas is winning the propaganda war. That was their aim all along.
To wit:
How the spectacle of Palestinian terrorism changed the world | The Hill
You don’t need to be a terrorism expert to read the tea leaves about this. Hamas welcomes the high number of dead civilians to create international condemnation of Israel. That same calculus is at work when Hamas fires rockets from hospitals, schools and apartment buildings inviting devastating Israeli responses.
The violence of the Palestinian cause is thus one the world seems to find consistent sympathy for, despite the utter barbarism of Hamas’s strategy and tactics. A far better approach would be to actively help the Palestinian people resist Hamas’s cynical strategy to use Israel to continually “keep Palestinians radicalized . . .
I suppose you didn't bother to read the Guardian article I linked yesterday which claimed that Netanyahu and his war cabinet want to relocate Palestinians out of Rafah.
Your wish is not my command. You have been told 10,000 times that I am not anti Jewish or anti Israeli. I despise, nay, loathe, Netanyahu and his war cabinet. That's it. You just keep circling back to this obsessive compulsion of yours to project wehat others think and feel. Disgusting. Really disgusting. Did I mention that it's disgusting? You're starting to get under my skin to be frank. Cut it out and deal with it. Not everyone has to agree with you. We can expect that you don't personally attack everyone who disagrees with you on every post.
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55 minutes ago, Jingthing said:Another example of intellectually dishonest sleazy posting tactics.
Yes some Israeli officials have said such horrible things.
True.
Instead you imply that means that is Israeli government policy.
Those are two different things.
It would be like take statements from American "politicians" like Marjorie Taylor Greene and asserting they represent actual U.S. government policy.
I think it's legitimate to be very concerned that the most right wing forces in Israel will eventually prevail, but that again is very different than asserting that has already happened.
I don't know and neither do you, but I do not expect that all of the Palestinian population will be removed from Gaza, any more than the 20 percent of Arab Israeli citizens will be removed from Israel.
Please be more honest in your posting tactics and you might actually gain some credibility.
Those are the war cabinet. How is that not official policy? These are the extreme right wing faction that keeps Netanyahu in power and out of jail.
Forced displacement of even 20% of the citizens would amount to ethnic cleansing. Note that they don't want to go, that's what makes it ethnic cleansing.
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8 minutes ago, coolcarer said:Has Gaza got ethnic cleansing? can you explain why that would be? Can you explain the difference of getting people out of harms way as much as possible because Hamas is using them as human shields would still be ethnic cleansing? I take it there is still no link to your previous claims?
I don't need to imagine anything. I know why they have done it. Israeli officials are on record as wanting to remove the Palestinian population out of Gaza as they believe the entirety of the land belongs to Israel. Additionally, we have seen the mass displacement caused by the indiscriminate use of high explosive bombs and wanton destruction of Palestinian homes, schools and hospitals plus the use of starvation to displace them.
This is clear an unequivocal ethnic cleansing and is the reason that the ICJ has decided to take up the complaint by SA.
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4 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:Palestinians redefine many words and moving civilians out of harms way suddenly becomes ethnic cleansing!
The dictionary defines mass displacement of civilians as ethnic cleansing. The Palestinians haven't rewritten the English dictionary.
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3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:
stop making things up and off topic, it is being attacked by rockets from Hezbollah. Israelis have been evacuated from border areas and from Kfar Aza and 31 other kibbutzim and moshavim close to the Gaza border
I'm well aware of that. I'm pretty sure the question was how many buildings have been destroyed and people displaced by Hamas. While the conflict with Hezbollah is on topic I haven't seen them mentioned here for some time, if at all.
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7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:
And? Mostly and others have not returned to their homes that were burnt and remain near the war zone borders. The answer to his question remains the same:
Israel is not conducting ethnic cleansing operations against Hezbollah.
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2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:
Some 200,000 Israelis have been internally displaced in the ongoing Israel-Hamas following the terror group's October 7 massacre in southern Israel. The Israeli government protect their civilians with the iron dome, unlike the Hamas terrorists who do nothing to protect their civilians and instead use them as human shields
My understanding is that they have been displaced by Hezbollah, not Hamas.
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What Would You Have Israel Do to Defend Itself?
in The War in Israel
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Recognise and apply to the ICJ for relief.