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Katana. The title of the site is Farang Can Learn Thai . That is repeated below the title box followed by รักภาษาไทย It is obviously not supposed to be taken as a translation of the title.
Facebook is more user friendly for iPad and iPhone compared to Thai visa. I would like to quote you but the box which I need to click is covered by another box for example. There are Thai people there who use more Thai language and the topics do not drag on with digressions as has happened here because new topics or lessons appear daily.
You could give it a chance.-
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22 hours ago, Kinnock said:
That's just an annoying party trick to impress foreigners. Change the word order and ask a Thai listener to correctly write down the words in the right order - and they will get half of them wrong. I used some of these words in my original tests.
I used to wonder what Thai being an isolating language meant.
I read the first post and the party trick "my my my my" and wondered what was the tone of silk. I resolved that by saying to myself ผ้าไหม .(Pamy)Are we misunderstanding the Thai language when we expect to be able to recognize individual words in the same way that we are able to do in our own languages?
When people say that normal Thais don't speak as we learners do could it be because they know better when and how to elucidate
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Just for the fun of it. English has an equivalent word where making a sound similar to ถนน is necessary and that is gnu. Our dictionary doesn't help more than showing that the u is open. If you are familiar with transliteration you would probably pronounce gnu as งู but that would be wrong. Fortunately in neither language is tn .., ถน.. possible so you have to do your best. However the RID shows ถะนน as a guide to pronunciation and some books say ออกเสียงกึ่งเสียง between those two consonants which is not how สระ ะ is said. Thais encounter a similar problem with words like snooker where English speakers often do a better job of hiding the half vowel probably making it a quarter vowel! Perhaps ตลอด is an example where both languages seem to naturally produce the correct sound.
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These are spoken too quickly for me. My friend was staying in แพร่ recently to attend a funeral. He called me on Facetime because he was bored with being “trapped” by locals. They wanted to speak to him but he could only nod and smile because he could not understand everything. I find that encouraging.
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Comment on your penultimate post KeeTua .
There is a caption which appears momently across the top of the picture, I can't remember the words used but it shows that this is to be taken as a moral lesson. What she hopes for is what her behavior has lost her. Without that phone call the homily loses much of its impact.-
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Sorry.
10 hours ago, kokesaat said:Slightly different, but makes me wonder if there's a connection:
Somewhere in my Thai studies I came across: อาหารสิ้นคิด
My teacher told me it refers to those common day dishes: for example, ผัดกระเพรา, ไข่เจียว, ข้างเหนียงหมูปิ้ง
She said that when faced with a fancy menu, people often order these dishes because that's what they're familiar with......rather than dishes with a fancy name (อาหารแฟนซี). If a dish sounds unfamiliar, I'd be prone to ask questions.....but if you shy away from asking, you'd probably go with what you know.
For info. I am on my iPad but using Chrome.
Finger trouble kokesaat, your ข้าว is coming out ข้าง etc.คิดสั้น ๆ and สิ้นคิด are closely allied I think. People don't read dictionaries so they could mean the same.
Decisions are the result of thinking in both cases, one is to not think at all and the other to think for a short time maybe.On 3/12/2021 at 9:25 AM, ColeBOzbourne said:Now that my brain is tuned into it I seem to hear it often. Below are some examples of how it was used in combination with a verb. Sometimes the verb was before and sometimes it was after ความคิดสั้นๆ. Judges were choosing between dish-A and dish-B. I typed it up the best I could after hearing the dialogue, I'm sure there are mistakes. The verbs are 'I like', 'I have to go with', 'I believe'.
ความคิดสั้นๆ เพิยงชอบจาน-A
ชอบความคิดสั้นๆ จาน-A
ความคิดสั้นๆ ต้องไปกับจาน-A
ความคิดสั้นๆ ผมเชื่อจาน-A ดีที่สุด
That is all one can do until after masses of exposure it comes to mean something without reference to English.
Look at ต้องไปกับ which you say means "must go with" that is what I would say but only because I am familiar with the English. Neither Thai nor English make sense literally do they? -
Thank you chaps. As I expected it is my deficiency coupled with the fact that thaivisa is a little out of date.
crossy. The phone works within the limitations of its size. There is a red banner withe the message “ You have been warned by CharlieH Duplicate account are not permitted. This account is now CLOSEDFollowed by a less offensive message to contact [email protected] via email and a requst to not open another account.
ubonjoe.
I think that you are correct my password is saved and I need to use touch but that didn’t work.
thanks for that I shall try to delve into the mysteries of Apple, settings will be my first destination. -
Just as it is becoming interesting I find that my iPad is blocked and my iPhone not up to the task. I would like to try reading but without interaction I don’t see the point.
I would like to meet up on some other app. Facetime for example. I understand that some people value anonymity but I don’t see what it gives other than the freedom it affords to those who want to offend which I don’t consider contributes to learning.
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Somtamguy. I am more than happy to share Thai with you but thai visa on an iPhone is inadequate as far as I am concerned. I chat on Line app with Thailand and think that we should get together in a more up to date form like that. I will send a message to you via this site with my email address.
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If there is someone who can unblock “tgeezer”’s account on iPad I would appreciate it.
I am not trying to deceive anyone, My name is R E GRAVES. I was forced to open a new account because after resuming service thaivisa would not allow me to log in again on my iPad.
Moderators please do not delete because although it may be beyond thaivisa’s ability to rectify my problem the evidence is that there are contributors on the forums who may be able to help.
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ไม่ใช่หลอก เราควรพูดภาษาไทยมากกว่า
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Back on line again but for how long I wonder!
I notice that you are treating ความคิดสั้น as a verb phrase when it is an abstract noun. Look for a verb in the dialogue where you found it.-
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I had to open a new account because there were problems logging in. When I try to open thaivisa in Safari the page which appears is a red page with the same offensive warning. I wonder why passwords are required if thaivisa can recognise my iPad.
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Forget that post I received a warning for opening another account. I am still tgeezer.
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Hello! I have read this page before, sorry if this lacks “polish”.
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As I learnt from the เจ้าสัว example, I need to look up the whole word. It is more or less as you say.
คิดสั้น ก. คิดทำลายตนเองเพราะหาทางออกไม่ได้ cannot see a way out so you kill yourself. ความคิดสั้น is being shortsighted, not looking ahead, or being unable to see the consequences of what you are doing, perhaps. Have another look and make up your own mind. -
18 hours ago, jackdd said:
I can just watch this video and I understand it. But this doesn't mean I manage to get every single word in the first try or understand every single word.q
That is about all we need. I think that there should be a table based on how Thais comment on your Thai language. พูดดี = you're hopeless, effort appreciated. . พูดชัด = too slow, need to get out more. No comment= perfect! Lots of scope there for people to add.
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Thank you very much. I heard ว้าว wow! Did not occur to me.
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Next, how does she describe the way she is dressed ? I got จัดเต็ม and thought that I heard ผม .
edit. That was the last question, even when I know what is said its still to fast for me to hear it. -
Found it, thanks. คนที่มั่งมี มั่งมี - มีเงินมาก มักหมายถึงเศรษฐีจีน
It fits better than เจ้าสวน doesn’t it?
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15 hours ago, somtamguy said:
Pretty sure she said ลูกแม่น่าจะได้เป็นลูกสะใภ้เจ้าสัว not เจ้าสวน
<They sound similar, and seeing as she talked about the mango farm just before this line you probably expected the word to be เจ้าสวน, but i'm fairly certain it's เจ้าสัว. >end if quote.
This is rather odd coming from somtamguy, and begs the question, do we report what people say or what they mean? Since สัว is not a word the meaning must be สวน.
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Good, don't go away!
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Well it is far too fast for me. I heard สวนมะม่วง the second time as I said it sounded nothing like that to me first time round. and I didn't get ลูกสะใภ้ at all. Very little was spoken correctly so It's not surprising that many native speakers are none too particular about spelling.
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I have just had another look, she says ได้ยินว่าเขาเป็นลูก....
also tells mother ลูกจะเป็นเจ้าของสวน I think.
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Four million people is a meaningless figure. Death attributed to this virus have been vastly overestimated in UK and this is probably the case everywhere. Even becoming sick is a lottery and nothing guarantees that individuals won't become infected whatever precautions are taken. Lives appear to have been saved only because numbers of deaths were vast overestimates.