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  1. 16 minutes ago, Tofer said:

    despite the labels.

     

    Never understood, and still don't, why there is some kind of defensive attitude when  someone is called right-winger, as if that is something terrible.

     

    When I was much younger (60-70's) it was indeed silly to be right minded, everyone was a leftist because it was "cool" and "in fashion".

     

    Now being much older, I am not an extreme right-winger ( nor an extreme-left one) but I agree with some "Right" principles as I agree with some "Left" ones.

     

    I my opinion one can only be labelled as " bigot/radical" when one claim that one side is always right/correct, and the other always wrong.

     

  2. 1 hour ago, Tofer said:

     

    That is a matter of opinion. Just because you label him a far right nationalist, does not mean his statements are incorrect.

     

     

    I don't label him.

    The party consider themselves as Nationalist, Eurosceptic, with the desire to cooperate with PEGIDA.

    He is one of the many who express his personal opinion in the European Parliament.

    That his statement is correct or incorrect, is a matter of opinion.

     

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  3. 4 minutes ago, Tofer said:

    as German MEP Gunnar Beck pointed out.

    Mr. Gunnar Beck is a member of The Alternative for Germany, a German nationalist and opposed to the European Union, party, characterized as being on the far-right.

    They have 7 seats in the European Parliament.

    Despite been interesting to know his personal opinion, it is in no way representative.

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  4. 1 hour ago, Tofer said:

    After all, we have left and, I firmly believe, the EU are displaying their true unsavoury colours throughout this process, being vindication in itself.

     

    The U.K. has left, the E.U. don't like that at all, so  at the moment the negotiations started  the E.U. intent is :

     

    "You left, fine,

    you want to do again business with us, fine,

    here are our specific conditions for you, as past member,

    take it or leave it".

     

    A way to label this, is indeed "Retribution".

     

    However also open to categorical refusal from the other party to accept these conditions, and walk away.

     

    We will soon find out the results of the negotiations.

     

    I think that the E.U. don't really expect that the U.K. will simply accept these "particular" conditions.

     

    If after all they do, or partially, it is some kind of "sweet revenge" for the E.U..

     

    If not, the E.U. is at the same point as the day after the Brexit referendum results.

     

    Meaning, a great possibility of considerable difficulties, but also knowing that the U.K. will be confronted with  similar  situations.

     

    Politics is not a job for nice, honest, people, and it shows worldwide.  

     

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  5. 21 hours ago, Tofer said:

    start supporting your country

     

     

     

    To be clear, I don't pretend that voting Leave will afflicted everyone, it may on the contrary, benefit all.

    Time will tell.  

     

    But should one unconditionally support one's country, when persuaded it took the wrong decisions, which one is convinced, will lead to the affliction of all.

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  6. 13 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

    Terrible pensions anyone ever ask what the heck they have done with all the money?

    It seems that the different U.K. governments had/has other priorities than a decent pension for their elderly/veterans.

    This is a pure intern U.K. matter.

  7. 23 minutes ago, Guderian said:

    Told, as usual, to return after 2:00 tomorrow to pick up the passport,

     

    So, that haven' t change.

     

    Remember many years ago in Pattaya, at once.

     

    Then in Jomtien, morning application = afternoon pick up.

  8. 1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

     

       The slogan didnt even say the money would go to the NHS , it was just a suggestion as to where the money COULD be spent 

     

    Do  I misinterpret your post ?

    But that's what I wrote.

     

    There were no really indications/plans,

    only sometimes suggestions as : "The money we will spare from the contribution to the E.U., will go to the N.H.S.",

    but not a guarantee it would happen.

     

     

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  9. 3 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

    the only promise was that we would leave the E.U.

    Correct.

     

    The problem being that nearly every Leave voter had/has a different opinion of what that would represent.

     

    There were no really indications/plans,

    only sometimes suggestions as : "The money we will spare from the contribution to the E.U., will go to the N.H.S.",

    but not a guarantee it would happen.

     

    For the Remainers, the indications/plans were very clear, impossible to misinterpret :

     

    " Nothing will change ".

     

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  10. 12 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

    Very true thanks to likes of Teresa May and the EU not wanting UK to leave without a deal. 

    That it is thanks to Mrs. May, or anyone else, is intern British matters, of no concern to outsiders.

     

    That the E.U. doesn't want that the U.K. leave without a deal is high probable, but they have certainly not the power to stop them to leave, if they want to.

    So far Mr. Johnson don't want to leave, even break his word for it.

    Now, a politician breaking his word is not really an unicum, it happens worldwide.

  11. 1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

    Polish brickies for example, working on incredibly low wages and putting UK brickies out of work. Great for the huge home building companies who can get cheap Polish labour but not so good for the British man on the street who lays bricks for a living.

     

    Well, if that is allowed by the British government, or if they don't care, this is indeed a calamity for the man in the street.

     

    Once the U.K. is definitively out of the E.U., these Polish people will not be able to do that job anymore, but every non E.U. will still be  allowed to work for low wages.

     

    One problem will be resolved,  but not the problem in its entirely.

     

    It will still be to the British Government to act more efficaciously.         

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  12. 45 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

    Well it is a demand or whatever you wish to call it that UK will not except. 

     Belgium never demand, we are not in a position to do so. 

    We ask, we suggest, we oppose sometimes for a while, but that's it. 

     

    The U.K. as the E.U. has of course the right to accept or refuse whatever. 

     

    The very proof of that is, that negotiations are still going on after more than  4 years. 

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