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    Moving from Pattaya to Bangkok

    in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits

    Posted · Edited by R123

    I can only relate my own experience. Last June (2018) I moved from Pattaya to BKK. Same as OP on retirement renewal.

    To cut a long story short: CW expected me to submit the TM28 and TM30. Documentation is required and depending on the IO you are dealing with and the circumstances the Landlord may also need to attend at immigration.

    I have receipts for both TM 28 and TM 30.

    Important to have these receipts which I keep with my passport. OP says he has an efficient condo office, so if they can provide him a TM 30 receipt from immigration then no problem.

    I did my annual extension at CW and do the 90 reporting  by post.

     

    Let's hear from you retirement extension vikings @ chaengwatthana: getting in and out AFAP

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    Posted · Edited by R123

    6 hours ago, attrayant said:

     

    What was source of the aggravation, do you remember?  Since the TM30 is filled out by somebody who won't even be with me (and it will likely be filled out in Thai), I'm not sure how I'll be able to account for its contents.

     

    The supporting documents are a copy of the housemaster's ID card and copy of his house book.  Originals not needed.   I don't know if these copies need to be signed, so I'll have two of each - one signed and one not.

    My experience: I had been led to believe that at CW I did not need to have the supporting documentation that you mention.

    But when I went there I was almost shouted at and told to provide the documentation and complete the forms in detail. You have it seems what is needed so you ought to be ok. 

    Remember right or not a tenant is sometimes being foisted with the obligation associated with TM 30.

     

    I can only relate my experiences; others may be treated differently.

     

    Worse Time at Bangkok Immigration

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    The OP waited 7 hours and more and I am wondering if there is some ways to ease the boredom of such a wait.

    Now seems to be the case he must appear in person to get his ticket to be seen but after that there is no obligation for him to remain until his turn is called, right?

    And if for example he is number 472 and they are only on number 72 then its likely the wait will be around 4 hours+ or so...correct?

    is there somewhere he can go nearby which is more comfortable that inside the concrete jungle? if so where?

    Could an arrangement be made for someone to let him know when its near his turn, so he can go to relax somewhere nearby until his number called..?

    Does anyone know if there is some fast track procedure?

    What are the best days and times to go which might avoid waiting around all day?

    Any other suggestions..?

     

     

     

     

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    What to do when an Ex Pat dies in Thailand.

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    Posted · Edited by R123

    Taken the info below from a 2014 thread on TV which is more like what I am researching ... not sure if accurate(and I have made an addition).

     

    I will seek the advice of a Thai lawyer and post on here again if I have time and it appropriate:

     

    1) person dies (in hospital, natural causes, no foul play = no autopsy or police report required).

    added by me: if dies not in hospital say at home, then police are called.

    2) hospital makes death certificate, moves body to morgue.

    3) death certificate has to be registered at local city hall

    4) death certificate and passport to national's embassy - translate certificate, get certified copies (I recommend at least 10) and cancel passport.

    5) get letter from embassy allowing disposal of the remains.

    5a) if need be - have bank accounts frozen/locked, cancel phone, utilities, etc. Pack/move belongings if in rented accommodation.

    6) make arrangements with temple (assuming cremation - if Buddhist/Muslim/etc then the appropriate temple will know the what/how to do's.)

    7) funeral ceremony (simple or prolonged) and final disposal of remains.

     notify appropriate authorities in home country - many will required certified copies of death certificate and in some cases, certified copies of the Will as well.

    Verify the Will (45 days after death - assuming the Will and assets are in Thailand)

    9) disposal of assets.

    10) someone told me that after a certain period of time (180 days ?) there is supposed to be another small ceremony of some kind for some reason

     

    https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/725899-farang-death-procedure-in-thailand/?page=2

     

     

     

     

    What to do when an Ex Pat dies in Thailand.

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    "You should start by reading this:  https://www.gov.uk/after-a-death "

     

    Next to useless I am asking specifically about Thailand/death IN Thailand and the precise particulars and not generalizations.

     

    I have read this:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/information-relating-to-deaths-in-thailand

     

    And I have read this:

     

     

    https://www.gov.uk/register-a-death/y/overseas/thailand/same_country

     

    I have gone thru the whole of this thread trying to glean the info needed. Plus researched around the internet and asked others.

     

    A Thai executor is not a lawyer and needs to know what to do in simple terms. OK call the police and get a 'death certificate" from a doctor/hospital.

    Go to a government dept with the death certificate? Which govern dept. and where is it located in BKK?

    etc etc

    All I want is the practical steps needed to be taken and it seems to me no one on the thread seems able to just explain in clear and straightforward terms what to do.

     

    Thank u....

     

     

     

     

    What to do when an Ex Pat dies in Thailand.

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    Posted · Edited by R123

    Hopefully, someone can outline the correct procedure to follow if say a UK passport holder living long time in BKK dies.

     

    Scenario: the deceased has left a valid Thai Will and appointed a Thai person as executor. The Will states that all matter are to be dealt with in Thailand such as funeral arrangements etc and dispersal of Thai property. Any property outside of Thailand is dealt with by a separate UK Will and separate executors.

     

    What must the Thai executor do?

    1 Inform the police: right?

    2: get a death certificate: from a hospital doctor?

    3. Inform a Thai government department in Thailand to confirm the death certificate; which dept if any and what is needed?

    4 Notify the British Embassy and briefly what formalities are required since there is no repatriation of the body?

    5. Inform any next of kin?

    6 What else?

     

    if anyone can assist with info I would appreciate it!

     

     

     

    UK Embassy will not accept Union Pay debit cards

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    Posted

    Previously used my BB Visa debit card for ATM withdrawals and on line purchases. Now with the Union Pay use the latter only for ATM withdrawals but use the  VISA credit cards issued by BB for on line purchases etc.

    As soon as the credit card purchase arises on my internet banking i can pay it immediately so no interest charges.

    It's less convenient than previously but used to it now...

     

     

    Change of Address procedures etc

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    Yes well I accompanied my friend to CW immigration yesterday. It was decided he would go in person with my assistance as he uses a walker and is currently in severe pain despite taking pain killer medication. He had the form 28 together with evidence of his new address. We were sent to the 90 day report section.

    After waiting almost 2 hours our number was called. When the purpose of our visit was known we were directed to a side cubicle.

    My friend was then the victim of a very strong tirade about why he has not filled in form 30 together with another form and he was in effect cross examined about why the Landlord had not accompanied him.

    It was quite distressing to see my friend treated in such a manner.

    He was also scolded for not bringing a photocopy of his passport.

    As it happened my friend is staying in a serviced apartment of a hotel group under a 1 year contract.

    I would warn anyone changing address in BKK to heed the above as it was an unpleasant experience.

    Change of Address procedures etc

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    My friend has an O visa , renewed, and is retired staying in Phuket. He now tell me he wants to move to live in Bangkok soon. Which form does he need to provide to Thai immigration after moving to Bangkok?

    Apart from the form does he need to show any supporting documents to Immigration apart from his passport?

    Does he need to go to Cheungwattana to do the change of address or is there a more centrally located office where he can submit the form in Bangkok? 

    Can I take the form and his passport on his behalf to do the address change as my friend has mobility problems?

    Thanks.

    Moving from Pattaya to Bangkok/ change of address requirements

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    Soon to move from Pattaya to Bangkok; on long stay (retirement). In Pattaya Form 28 needs to be submitted to immigration with new landlord in attendance and various documents provided.

    I have read that in BKK immigration (CW) no such requirements necessary. Just Form 28.

    is that correct? Any current knowledge as to recent practices in BKK for doing the change of address there?

    Thanks so much for any advice!

     

    Possible indentity theft at Chon Buri Immigration

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    Posted

    Its' also an invasion of privacy- in effect -giving information about a persons private detail to all and sundry.

    Totally thoughtless and probably done to save on paper without regard to anyone's rights.

     

    There is a long stay establishment/hotel in Pattaya that does the same using records of other guests' stay on one side of the paper which is then used to print out invoice to guest when paying bills.

    The guest stay records reveal the full name and other info about the guest, how many persons stay in the room plus extra charge for over night visitors etc...

    TiT. 

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    Retirement Visa Extension Auxiliary Forms - Jomtien

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    Posted · Edited by R123

    I was at Jomtien this morning-5 Feb 2018- for retirement visa extension and was handed the forms both at the ticketing counter and at the extension desk which I completed within a minute or so and despite it being a Monday there was no one ahead of me in the queue.
    Total time in the place, about 5 minutes.

    I return tomorrow to collect my passport.

    Well done to Jomtien Immigration for treating those on retirement extensions speedily!

     

    800k deposite requirement in Chonburi Question

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    Posted · Edited by R123

    30 minutes ago, BritTim said:

    They want to check that the balance has been over 800k for the entire last three months. Two snapshots (a day in October and one very recent) are not sufficient to demonstrate this. They need a full statement for the last three months, and a deposit (or withdrawal) followed by a bank book update is the easiest way to achieve this.

    Surely a fixed deposit account book will show the initial deposit and then show if that deposit 3 (or more) months later has remained the same. The bank book would show if any reduction during the 3 month period. if no entry can take it no reduction.

    If the bank book is accompanied by a confirming letter from the bank stating the 800,000 in the account unchanged for 3 months there ought to be no problem.

     

    Incidentally the requirement is for 800,000 baht to be in the account for 3 months. If that provision is satisfied then-assuming all other factors being satisfied - it might difficult for immigration to refuse a renewal.

     

     

    TM.30 Confusion today at Cholburi (Jomtien) Immigrations

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    Posted · Edited by R123

    I was involved in doing a change of address in Jomtien Immigration recently (the side entrance section) and the official there was telling a person ahead of me that a TM 30 is needed anytime someone leaves Thailand and returns; the report needs to be filed within 24 hours.

    The inference being no matter if someone  leaves Thailand for just a day or less, the report still needs to be submitted within the 24 hour period.

    No mention made if someone is simply  travelling around Thailand without leaving the country.

    Note I am just relating what I witnessed first hand.

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