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I stopped 10 years ago by going cold turkey after several failed attempts. This was after giving up previously, then having one or two at the pub, which led to me becoming a regular smoker again without thinking about it Agreed that the desire to smoke never leaves you. Even now, when I see someone smoking I want one.

Spot on mate. Smokers also produce greenhouse gases, which offends the eco cult lefty zealots who look down on the rest of us.

So how do 'stats' differentiate between smokers, second hand smokers, victims of other kinds of air pollution, and apparent victims of diseases that can be caused by smoking but also may occur in people who have never had contact with smokers? Phoney science.

The Baht is too strong

More phoney 'science'. How on earth can those numbers be proven?

Hi All, For those who are interested, the application process for Thai Citizenship in my case went as follows: Late 2003 - Picked up the checklist from the Police Headquarters on Rama 1 Road January 2004 - Took all my documents to the Police Department, in what I thought was a word perfect application. However, since I was applying in January and this being a new tax year, my tax returns from the three preceding years were not enough. An oversight on my part, so waited until I got my most recent tax retirn PNG 91 for 2003 March 2004 - Try again. This time my application was successfully lodged. Paid the 5,000 Baht fee. Got fingeprinted. Signed my name (in Thai) on dozens of firms. Took two Thai witnesses and later my wife plus kids to show that they were real. Took forms issued to me by the police department to immigration and my disctrict office. Later went back to pick up the completed forms and take them back to the police department April 2004 - Thai language interview at the Police Department September 2004 - Invited to the Interior Ministry. Showed them my work permit, passport, alien registration certificate and certificate of residence. Then, I was shown into a room with around 40 people watching me. I was given a microphone and asked to sing the Thai National anthem and Phra Baramee (the one they play in the cinema). Yes, really. Managed to keep a straight face. Got interviewed in Thai - basic Q&A about my circumstances. Around the same time, a group of three officials from the Interrior Ministry visited my house to see if my domestic circumstances were as described on my application form Waited Waited February 2006 - Got the good news that the then Interior Minister Khun Kongsak had approved my application March 2006 - Got a letter to notify me of the above Waited (September 2006 - military coup) Waited November 2006 - Got the good news that the King had countersigned my application December 2006 - One of the most memorable parts: the oath. Just after the King endorsed my application, I was asked to report to the police department in business attire, armed with a candle, a lotus flower and an incense stick. I then had to stand with these in my hands while clasped in a wai, in front of a Buddhist shrine, repaeting an oath of allegance to King and country, and promising to be an upright and law-abiding citizen. Waited Waited April 2007 - Got the good news that the new Interior Minister Khun Aree had announced in the Interior Ministry notices that a bunch of applicants including me could now get Thai nationality May 2007 - Got the paperwork and certificate from the Police HQ to take to the disctrict office to get my ID card. Now I must return my work permit, alien residence certificate and certificate of residence to respective authorities as these are no longer needed. Now I can apply for a passport Told that my application was one of the faster ones these days. Getting Thai Citizenship IS a pain in the arse - but look on the bright side: 1) Now I can own what I buy, land, house, etc 2) No need for a work permit, and no restricted occupations. I can now drive a Tuk Tuk for a living if the going gets tough in the IT industry 3) Now I can get in free to the Grand Palace and pay the Thai rate for national parks 4) I can own a business 5) I can get a Thai passport and visit countries like Laos and Vietnam visa free 6) No need for that expensive old yearly Resident Return visa. No limit to the amount of time that I spend out of Thailand without losing my residency 7) I can use the Thai passport lane at the airport (shorter queues) 8) In my case, no need to give up my old nationality 9) I have a new Thai identity, forename and surname. Good for travelling to places that dislike my country of origin 10) I think that I can even vote, although I am not sure who is worth voting for All you need to do is satisfy the following to apply: http://www.phuketgazette.net/issuesanswers/details.asp?id=759 Golden rules are: 1) Be patient and never get upset. The people that handle your application do not make the rules and do not have any power over what happens in the Interior Ministry 2) Get a coach. Not an expensive lawyer - just make friends with one of the officials that handles your application Cheers