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I consider myself a political junkie. I grew up like that. I'm confident you're off base on this. IF Hillary does run her only serious competition might be Biden. I think the overwhelming sentiment in the democratic party is that Hillary is way overdue for the nomination and totally deserves it. The issue really is age, health, and desire at this point. Obama will be in a fix on choosing between Hillary and Biden and I think he won't and people will accept that as the polite and politic stance to take. He likes them BOTH. Yes I am saying Hillary WILL have the nomination thrown at her and that Biden probably won't even run. If she doesn't run, Biden probably will run and he is more vulnerable and would face a tough fight. The dynamic would be totally different than 2008 in regard to Hillary. She's like a total icon in the democratic party, in some ways more so than Obama. Benghazi? Irrelevant to democrats. Will Hills run? Who can know?Some of you may not know or remember how presidential election politics works. It won't be the Republican "Attack Machine" she has to worry about first in 2016. It will be her own fellow Democrats - just like it was in 2008. Hillary will be just one of many candidates for the Democratic Party's nomination for President. She will have to battle and debate other Democrats for many months leading up to and during the primary season. It will get ugly and they will throw all kinds of mud at her...including Benghazi. She will not have the nomination handed to her just because of who she is...remember, that was expected in 2008 and it didn't work out that way, did it?
Between Biden and Hillary? What does that say about Hillary to put that goofball Biden on par with her? Seriously, Ol' Joe can't get anything done with his foot constantly making its way into his mouth. 2016 is four years away, just the year before the 2008 election Hillary was considered a shoo-in for the nomination. As a self-proclaimed political junkie, you should know better than to hand the nomination off to any one (or two) so many years ahead.
Oh, and btw, in case you missed it, Joe Biden is an old, white male. There is zero chance that the party that has demonized old, white men the past few years will ever nominate another one as their presidential candidate. They'll have to be satisfied as VP, Sec of State, Sec of Defense, etc.
I'd say there is a better chance that Gov. Christie of New Jersey jumps parties to run as a Democrat in 2016 than Biden receiving the nomination.
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So called? I love it. Hillary spends several hours being grilled in front of the house and the senate and it's still so called.
Look, this purely political game is totally transparent to the majority of Americans. Hillary Clinton drives right wing Americans bonkers. They thought they could ruin her future presidential career over this Benghazi artificial scandal. The hearings clearly revealed they've got nothing. Yes, it must be very frustrating. Sure she didn't convert any right wingers, any libertarian/tea party commentators, but nothing that happened or that will happen regarding Benghazi will damage Hillary's future chances to win a solid majority one iota. Now it's up to her. Is she healthy enough? Will she want it? If so, she's got it.
Hillary folded under the pressure of her lies and evasions. Her political future is over. If she does decide to run in 2016, you can bet her Dem opponents in the primaries will make short work of her. That is her reward for protecting The One. It's almost sad to see the Clintons fall from the political dynasty they were becoming to this. It pains me to say this, but she & Bill deserve better.
I have to agree with the post above. The Republican attack machine knows no limits to what it will do, with its fat PACS and millionaire-funded war-chests - to try and ruin a good stateman's reputation. They're adept at taking dirty politics to ever-new lows. They're expert at taking a relatively benign issue, and pumping it up with multi-million dollar campaigns, to appear as though the opponent had repeatedly stabbed his grandmother with a rusty blunt knife. Fortunately, a dwindling proportion of American voters aren't sucked in by such gutter politics, as shown by the strong Obama win of a few months ago. It's now official: A US presidential contender can win handsomely with less than 40% of the white male vote. America is changing. Republicans are reluctantly having to adapt (if they don't want to further fade to obscurity), but they're doing so while dragging their feet and griping every step of the way.
Some of you may not know or remember how presidential election politics works. It won't be the Republican "Attack Machine" she has to worry about first in 2016. It will be her own fellow Democrats - just like it was in 2008. Hillary will be just one of many candidates for the Democratic Party's nomination for President. She will have to battle and debate other Democrats for many months leading up to and during the primary season. It will get ugly and they will throw all kinds of mud at her...including Benghazi. She will not have the nomination handed to her just because of who she is...remember, that was expected in 2008 and it didn't work out that way, did it?
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So called? I love it. Hillary spends several hours being grilled in front of the house and the senate and it's still so called.
Look, this purely political game is totally transparent to the majority of Americans. Hillary Clinton drives right wing Americans bonkers. They thought they could ruin her future presidential career over this Benghazi artificial scandal. The hearings clearly revealed they've got nothing. Yes, it must be very frustrating. Sure she didn't convert any right wingers, any libertarian/tea party commentators, but nothing that happened or that will happen regarding Benghazi will damage Hillary's future chances to win a solid majority one iota. Now it's up to her. Is she healthy enough? Will she want it? If so, she's got it.
Hillary folded under the pressure of her lies and evasions. Her political future is over. If she does decide to run in 2016, you can bet her Dem opponents in the primaries will make short work of her. That is her reward for protecting The One. It's almost sad to see the Clintons fall from the political dynasty they were becoming to this. It pains me to say this, but she & Bill deserve better.
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Once Bush was done with the country, some of the largest companies were essentially bankrupt. They were no longer paying taxes. Hundreds of thousands of people were unemployed. They were no longer paying taxes. Even more were underemployed and paying minimal taxes.
Now why do you think the deficit went up?
Because while tax revenues have decreased as you have pointed out, federal spending has risen sharply.
http://en.wikipedia....1993_-_2008.png
The chart is actually from 1981-2012.
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I don't blame Obama or Hillary for the failings of US foreign policy with regards to the Arab Spring and what it has meant for Egypt, Libya, Syria, etc - and now Mail & Algeria.
I think it was a lose-lose situation from the start. Leave them alone, and you end up with the Muslim Bros running Egypt. Assist in overthrowing one of the dictators and you get weapons flowing freely around the region and an ambassador + 3 get killed. Don't get involved a second time and tens of thousands of the local population die in a civil war in Syria.
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Yes,let's celebrate the crowning of the Sugar Daddy in Chief. This term another 20 million on food stamps, extend unemployment bennies another 99 weeks and, oh yes, another $4000 drop in yearly a salaries. Time to rejoice our savior!
Compare that to "W", whose main campaign issue in 2000 was how to spend the budget surpluses. Flash forward 8 years and he left the country in the worst economic state since The Great Depression, in 2 unnecessary wars and with the country's credibility in the toilet.
In Sept 2008 the economy crashed.
In Nov 2008 Obama was elected.
In Jan 2009 Obama was sworn in as POTUS.
By mid-2009 to early 2010 the US economy was growing at over 3% per quarter for 3 consecutive.
Then Obama policies started to take effect and growth tanked to almost 0%.
By the end of 2012 growth finally came in around 3%.
Thanks to Obama, we wasted at least two years - and millions of jobs - in what has been the worst economic recovery in history.
Earlier this week, instead of "swearing in Obama" they should have held an event for "swearing at Obama" - then at least there would have been record attendance and it would have been worth watching.
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Hillary Clinton nailed this hearing.
Hardly...
3 Incredibly Outrageous Evasions by Hillary Clinton About Benghazi
"Fair Use" means you'll actually have to follow the link to read the details. But I'd advise against it if you are one of those convinced of Hillary's divinity.
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As there hasn't been a dedicated thread about the hearings, thanks JT, for giving me the opportunity to say that seeing the fawning sycophantic toadie Dems spouting hours of drivel, most of which had nothing to do with Benghazi had me reaching for the barf bag.
BTW, I did watch a portion of the Senate hearings from the begining, and ALL of the lower house proceedings. IMO, it was all a complete waste of time, as we learned NOTHING that we didn't already know. Rep Duncan was the only one that gave her a real grilling- good on him. Sen Paul was the only one I saw in the Senate that asked hard questions, and she definitely didn't like it!
Of course we didn't learn anything new - because there is nothing else. Accept it. You can invent as much nonsense as you wish but that still doesn't make it reality.
Johnson (R-Wis) was an ass. Hillary clocked him several times because he interrupted her every answer because he didn't like what he was hearing. He is the model Republican narcissist, interested only in hearing his own voice and his own question.
There's nothing, accept it . . . or the black helicopters, captained by President Blackenstein, will come hovering silently one night
So, tell me:
1/ why Obama told the UN it was about a vdo when he knew it was terrorism- he told us that he said so the "next day" when he was debating Romney?
2/ who changed the talking points that Rice used?
3/ why, when Obama claimed that he ordered a military response to the attack, nothing was done?
4/ who ordered the CIA not to intervene?
5/ who ordered the DOD personnel to leave prior to the attack?
Where are the survivors of the Benghazi attack? There were quite a few of them, 20 or 30 and so far none has been heard from.
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Clinton: 'No Doubt' Algeria Attackers Had Libyan Weapons
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton testified before Congress today that there is "no doubt" that the terrorists who attacked a BP facility in eastern Algeria last week were armed with weapons that slipped out of Libya,...As, the man who claimed to have planned theon behalf of al Qaeda, Mokhtar Belmokhtar, said back in November 2011 that his people "benefitted" from the black market weapons that were looted from Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi's warehouses during the Libyan revolution in the fall of 2011. Several major Algerian news outlets, including the state-run Numidia News, reported that the attack had other ties to Libya in addition to the weapons. The terrorists crossed into Algeria from the Libyan border just 50 miles to the east, drove vehicles with Libyan license plates and dressed in Libyan military uniforms for the attack.1 -
Here's a new twist to the story reported in the New York Times (though not an unbiased source by any means)...
Some Algeria Attackers Are Placed at Benghazi
Several Egyptian members of the squad of militants that lay bloody siege to an Algerian gas complex last week also took part in the deadly attack on the United States Mission in Libya in September, a senior Algerian official said Tuesday....If confirmed, the link between two of the most brazen assaults in recent memory would reinforce the transborder character of the jihadist groups now striking across the Sahara....“This is the result of the Arab Spring,” said the official said, who spoke on condition of anonymity because investigations into the hostage crisis were still under way. “I hope the Americans are conscious of this.”-
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Well it looks like deposing Gaddafi has done wonders for the stability of the region. Obviously the loss of innocent civilians is tragic, but perhaps events such as this may little by little convince western governments they are fighting an ideological mortal enemy, and the battlefield is as large as the world is.
I fail to see the connection wit Libya - it is far too simplistic to expect the world's troubles to vanish because a fly was squashed.
The problems in Algeria go back decades and decades - you should read up on it, quite interesting stuff. My first wife's father was a pied-noir (so, my first father-in-law) and the tales he told were simply astounding
The complex where the hostages were taken is very close to the Libyan border. I thought I had read they actually came from Libya.
I read that the hostage takers were of 6 different nationalities but just because Libya is so close doesnt mean the terrorists came from there... Chances are they are from Mali as one of their demands was to stop france interferring in Mali
Sure, it is possible they came from Mali. But the complex is about 35 km from the Libya border as the crow flies and about 1,100 km from the Mali border through the desert and over mountains (Sicily is closer). IF they even came from outside Algeria, it is most likely they came from Libya.
EDIT: sorry, the city is 35 km away from Libya. The complex is 45 km from that and I don't know which direction.
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Well it looks like deposing Gaddafi has done wonders for the stability of the region. Obviously the loss of innocent civilians is tragic, but perhaps events such as this may little by little convince western governments they are fighting an ideological mortal enemy, and the battlefield is as large as the world is.
I fail to see the connection wit Libya - it is far too simplistic to expect the world's troubles to vanish because a fly was squashed.
The problems in Algeria go back decades and decades - you should read up on it, quite interesting stuff. My first wife's father was a pied-noir (so, my first father-in-law) and the tales he told were simply astounding
The complex where the hostages were taken is very close to the Libyan border. I thought I had read they actually came from Libya.
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Anyone heard any more of this rumour?
Clinton crash claim denied by White House
Posted on » Friday, January 18, 2013
WASHINGTON: The US was yesterday still denying reports that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was injured and US Navy Seal Commander Job W Price killed when their C-12 Huron transport aircraft crash landed in the Iranian city of Ahvaz near the Iraqi border recently.
Or has my local rag been scammed?
Scammed...
http://news.yahoo.com/official-navy-seal-died-apparent-suicide-213239200.html
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Was it a hostage rescue...or did the Algerian military not know the hostages were in the vehicles they targeted?
In the future, it's probably better to take hostages where the military is better trained and concerned with NOT killing the hostages.
Has there been any word on the 7 or so that are still unaccounted for?
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First the US Secret Service scandal, now this. Foreign diplomats and representatives need to be careful with Colombian prostitutes.
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And in the end, nothing was accomplished. Nothing.
Well, terrorists will think twice about taking hostages with the Algerian army around.
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This post will be number 530 and my guess is NOT ONE PERSON has changed their mind about guns.
Isn't it time to let this thread have a decent burial?
Thank you.
Tell me, what do you think is my view on guns?
Is it safe to assume you are firmly against having one pointed in your direction?
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Some hated Nixon because he was a Quaker!
In the 1976 election, despite Gerald Ford being connected to Nixon & the Republicans, Jimmy Carter won by less than 1%. If not for being tarnished by Nixon, he probably would have won.
This brings us full circle back to Hillary...IF she decides to run in 2016, will her image be tarnished and chances ruined by Benghazi? Even if the investigation doesn't uncover a scandal, she has already taken responsibility for not having enough security in place. If the economy and job situation doesn't improve, will being connected to a horrible 8-year down turn also hurt her chances? Or will the media still be blaring out how it was W's fault?
What about the connection between the attackers in Benghazi and the attackers in Algeria who just took 41 hostages (of which a reported 34 have died)? It looks like the West might have really screwed the pooch in Northern Africa big-time and its genesis happened under Hillary's watch at the State Department. I bet she wishes Kerry was in there 5 months ago.
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34 of the hostages have been killed...
http://www.reuters.c...E90G0MR20130117
Not worthy of its own World News thread?
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2) At some point in the future your gun is made illegal and the gov't knows where to come confiscate it
Surely if guns are made illegal (by a legal process obviously) then law abiding gun owners in the US would be willing to give up their guns. That's what 'law abiding' means - obeying the law.
Right, meaning that only criminals would still have guns. Very good point.
Then there's the third type of people who rather more realistically believe that government is neither totally corrupt nor knights in shining armour but a mixture of the two together with many good men and women who try to do their best for their country. If you want to see an example of a country without goverment Somalia is a good example.
Realistically? 555
Is the gov't totally corrupt? No, not totally.
Will politicians do anything in order to get re-elected and stay in power? Absolutely.
Do politicians take money from lobbyists to vote certain ways and ignore what is best for the people they represent? Absolutely.
Are politicians the "best and brightest" a country has to offer? Not by a long shot.
Are politicians primarily concerned for the well-being of the people they were elected to serve? Not by a long shot.
So, they are just mostly corrupt, but not totally.
It's worth pointing out that people's position on how much the gov't can be trusted is directly related to how much they agree with the party currently in power. But in the end, the gov't has one thing in mind - to keep the taxpayer money flowing because that's where the power comes from.
An armed population keeps this gov't - or one in the future - from doing what governments throughout history have done - oppressing their own people at one point or another. Again, not saying Obama is necessarily that guy, but it could certainly happen in 10, 20, 30 years from now if the population is disarmed. To simply write off as "paranoid" what might happen with future governments based on trust one holds in the current government is dangerously naive.
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Okay, I just saw the NRA commercial about armed guards in school because Ovama's children is protected by armed guards and he is an eliteist.
I am sorry, I just cannot see how any reasonable person could watch that and not roll their eyes. Look, I get people thinking they have a right to have their guns and etc. Just say that, but that commercial really make the oro gun people look completely nutty.
Kind of nutty like this:
I think they are trying to say that the President is getting a little 'uppity'.
And yes, I know what that means.
I think they are trying to make the President look bad, but in the process they are making themselves look quite ridiculous.
Especially when their leader was bleating on about evil video games, and now they've gone and released an NRA shooting "game" for the iPhone!
Doh!
To be fair, NRA: Practice Range can't truly be classified as a violent video game. You're not on a mission to mow down scores of human beings. You're actually shooting at stationary and moving targets as you would at any shooting range.
You start off with simple handguns and rifles, though you can pay extra to use an AK-47 assault rifle or an MK11 sniper rifle.
The NRA is also using the app to spread its message about gun safety. As you move from one scenario to another, the game flashes safety tips for actual gun owners.
But the NRA also squeezes in some of its own "facts" regarding gun ownership, all designed to take some of the heat off the group as more people call for stricter gun laws.
Yeah, well, I've played some of the Call of Duty games and the first level in one of them is passing the target shooting level. Just to teach you how to use the gun. Bo-ring as hell. I don't think the gamers are going to stop firing up baddies in order to shoot targets. UNLESS they offer some sort of financial incentive for scores, whatever.
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What a miserable part of the world. This wouldn't have anythingn to do with the type of religion they believe in, would it?
As Scott has said attacks on two Iraqi Kurdish political party offices and killing of Shiite police officers. More likely political/power disputes, rather than motivated by religion
Just the other day there was a story about some Kurdish activists being killed in Paris. I guess being Kurdish is pretty dangerous wherever you are.
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Huge Sahara hostage siege turns Mali war globalGovernments around the globe were holding emergency meetings to respond to one of the biggest international hostage crises in decades, which sharply raises the stakes over a week-old French campaign against al Qaeda-linked fighters in neighboring Mali.A group calling itself the "Battalion of Blood" says it seized 41 foreigners, including Americans, Japanese and Europeans, after storming a natural gas pumping station and employee barracks in Algeria before dawn on Wednesday.The attackers have demanded an end to the French military campaign in Mali, where hundreds of French paratroops and marines are launching a ground offensive against rebels in a campaign that began a week ago with air strikes.
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I agree with you wholeheartedly neversure. If we are worried about deaths lets ban alcohol. It kills more per year than guns.
Seriously guys, I do not think you realize how silly this stuff sounds. Just man up and say I want my guns, I don't abuse the right, and no one should take them away if I don't abuse my right to own.
I heard guy on radio whining tonight about having to register his guns ever five years. How selfish and lazy can one be to worry about such a minor inconvenience.
Stop whining, stop making silly excuses, take some responsibility and try to be less self absorbed.
On one hand, I think registering a gun should be like registering a car, even to the point of doing it every year and not just ever five years.
On the other hand, that registration information can and has been abused in two ways;
1) Some media outlet publicizes your information for all to see, including criminals,
2) At some point in the future your gun is made illegal and the gov't knows where to come confiscate it (most handguns are semi-automatic so it isn't just "military type assault rifles" the anti-gun lobby are talking about). Making an anti-gun law can be just because some politicians decide to bypass the Constitution - and we are seeing that happen more and more often. So there is a real threat if not tomorrow, then definitely in the not too distant future.
The second point is considered important to some people, a paranoid delusion to others. The first type of people do not believe that government - which is just a collection of (corrupt) politicians and civil servants - is some all-powerful, infallible, magic cure-all for all of society's ills. The second type of people believe that there is nothing to fear from government because they are great at what they do (despite decades, centuries of contrary evidence).
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Hillary Clinton Missing As G O P Refuses To Confirm Kerry As Secretary Of State
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Because one has absolutely nothing to do with the other?