[30 day extension of 30 day visa exempt entry]

11 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

What extension did you apply for.

No TM30 requirement can be hit and miss

 

Just a 30-day extension. 

[30 day extension of 30 day visa exempt entry]

On 7/28/2022 at 9:43 AM, Awk said:

 

Thanks for the report, that's great.

 

Anyone done it in Bangkok recently?  Planing on going on monday, and wondering if I need to waste money for a hotel booking on Sunday and get the printout before I go. 

Did it today.  No TM-30 registration was required and while the address field had to be filled out, no checks on whether the address was TM-30 registered were done as far as I could tell, neither for me nor other people.

 

[30 day extension of 30 day visa exempt entry]

29 minutes ago, Jetsam said:

reporting back: because I was staying with relatives in a rural area in the south, I was concerned about the tm-30. I ended up taking a short trip to Hua Hin and doing my extension there. The immigration office is in the basement of the Bluport shopping mall. Took 5 minutes total including waiting. 2-3 other people there at 3:30pm on a Friday.. No photocopies or passport photos - they do that for you at no charge. No TM-30, just the complete address of your hotel in Hua Hin and your Thai mobile telephone number. This was the single greatest experience I have ever had with any government entity in any country!  It didn’t seem real.  5 stars. 

 

Thanks for the report, that's great.

 

Anyone done it in Bangkok recently?  Planing on going on monday, and wondering if I need to waste money for a hotel booking on Sunday and get the printout before I go. 

[30 day extension of 30 day visa exempt entry]

On 7/16/2022 at 10:32 AM, skatewash said:

 You need to have a TM-30 done on your behalf.  It is the legal obligation of the landlord or manager of the place you are staying.  Go to them and ask if they have registered you as staying overnight at their address with Phuket Immigration.  They can do this online.  If they have done it ask them for a screenshot of the screen showing that you have been registered with immigration.

The alternative if you landlord/manager will not cooperate you have two choices.  You can register yourself but this requires cooperation from your landlord which is unlikely given their attitude toward their existing legal obligations.  They would have to give you things like a copy of their Thai ID and Blue House Registration book.  Again, this is probably a waste of time because your landlord is a scofflaw.  In the event you get no help from your landlord, my recommendation is to check into the absolutely cheapest hotel/hostel you can find and make sure they register your address with immigration (that is, file a TM-30 online for you).  You don't have to stay there, just get a screenshot of your address registration.  Take that with you to immigration to prove your address.
 

 

Can others confirm their experience with this please?  Staying with a friend who probably cannot fill this based on the apartment she  renting, so I will try the hotel/hostel route.  It seems the TM-30 form has a checkout date to fill in too however, so will this still work if the checkout date has already passed by the time you turn up at immigration for a 30 day extension?

 

And if anyone can recommend a reliable agency around Sukhimvit Asoke/Phrom Phong to make the trip to immigration on my behalf,  that would be a welcome too.

 

[Any issues at airport entering with non o?]

On 8/13/2019 at 6:27 AM, CelticTam said:

I live and work in Laos and like yourself have a ME Non-O based on Marriage, and for the previous ten years (so maybe approximately 150 entries) and I have never had an issue. On the last two occasions in June and July I was through Thai Immigration at Suvarnabhumpi in less than 5 minutes and the IOs were too busy talking to their co-worker to take notice of me. As others have stated, you have a valid visa so there should not be a problem

 Until there is a problem.

[denied at bkk, waiting in detention]

33 minutes ago, borderlesss said:

Objectively speaking, what risks am I even taking by attempting to enter via land? Isn't worst case scenario I get denied and walk it off? Why you guys have your panties in such a knot?

 

Why?  Becuase TITV - This Is ThaiVisa.   For every one person offering helpful advice, there will be 9 clueless idiots doing the opposite.

 

[Another one bites the dust (me)]

7 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I was told that by a Flip bar girl, although I never gave more than 2k.

 

There's also the 2-2-2.

[Denied Entry at DMK with 60 day visa from Penang]

On 11/23/2018 at 3:10 AM, JackThompson said:

 

Please ignore those who will post blaming you - as it is clear you violated no laws, and did not deserve what happened.  In that context, it is not necessary to have an exit-ticket to show when entering with a Tourist Visa - only when entering Visa-Exempt.  As well, a "boarding pass" is generally used "for boarding" (long since completed), so that request was just another "gotcha," used to create a false-rationale for initiating your rejected-entry.

 

 

While I have not had any problems with immigration so far, last month, and I think a few times before that too, I I was also asked for my boarding pass.  I presented just my passport initially, but was then asked for my boarding pass too.  Don't know why they want to see it, but now I hold on to it till I've passed immigration at least.  Actually I can even remember some airport security guy asking me for my boarding pass when going down to take the airport train.  Think that only happened once though.  (I had already thrown it away by then of course, and told him as much in an annoying "w t f" tone.  No idea what that was about either.)

[Denmark Embassy Has Stopped Doing Pension Letters]

I'm not sure if anyone has provided a full translation of the statement from the Danish embassy here yet: 

"Dette skyldes, at det juridisk set ikke er muligt for ambassaden i Bangkok at garantere over for de thailandske myndigheder, hvilken indkomst den enkelte person vil have i det kommende år."

 

Which one can translate to:

 

"This is because it is legally impossible for the embassy in Bangkok to provide a guarantee to the Thai government regarding what income the person will have in the coming year."

 

So it's, according to the statement above, not even a question on whether the income is verified or not, it's a question of whether the income will continue as indicated in salary/pension papers submitted.  Indeed, considering the entire country of Denmark could be wiped out by an unseen meteorite on any given day, one can hardly blame the Danish embassy for their reluctance to guarantee for any future income of their citizens past the present day and time.

 

[Denmark Embassy Has Stopped Doing Pension Letters]

4 minutes ago, elviajero said:

No I’m not staying that. I am saying that a document on its own proves nothing and that they only way for the income to be verified is by the embassy contacting the issuer. Something some (so far) embassies are refusing to do. 

 

To quote yourself: "They don't check or verify (same thing) anything, they never have."

That is wrong.   Were you to submit a home-made Mickey Mouse tax statement not even looking vaguely like the official one to the embassy, it would no doubt be rejected as an obvious forgery and possibly you would face criminal charges too.  They, the Danish embassy, do check and verify to the extent they deem necessary.  Even if you were to know exactly how the Danish embassy verifies these papers, your opinion on whether the verification is thorough enough or not is irrelevant.

[Denmark Embassy Has Stopped Doing Pension Letters]

3 minutes ago, elviajero said:

Utter nonsense. Every document is forgable and the ONLY way it can be verified is to contact the issuer!!

 

So what?  

Already the embassy is doing the verification every time a Danish citizen provides a financial guarantee for a Thai citizen that wants to visit Denmark.  This verification is as said based on the same papers as those previously provided for the income verification letter. 

 

It is your statement that the embassy cannot verify these papers that is nonsense I'm sorry to say, as the embassy already has whatever means it deems necessary in order to do the verification, and will undoubtedly continue having to perform this verification for other purposes anyway (e.g., processing visa applications for Thai citizens sponsored by Danish citizens).

 

[Denmark Embassy Has Stopped Doing Pension Letters]

14 hours ago, elviajero said:

They don't check or verify (same thing) anything, they never have.

 

They just ask for a document confirming the income being claimed. To check/verify they would have to contact the source of the income to ask the source to confirm that the income claimed in the document was correct.

 

Nonsense.  To check or verify a document does not mean they have to contact the original source of the document to verify it's authenticity.  Contacting the original source is merely one, more thorough, way of verifying the document.  Another way is, as they do for other similarly non-critical verification, verify that the documents looks genuine "enough", and that the applicant has signed them, including signing that the applicant is aware providing fraudulent documents is a punishable crime.

 

The same type of income letters are used for a variety of other similar tasks, including as a guarantee of the financial ability of a Danish citizen to provide for a Thai citizen applying for a visa to visit Denmark.

 

While it cannot be expected that Thai immigration will try to make sense of various bank statements, tax statement, pension letters, and similar, which will all be in Danish, nor that Thai immigration should have any idea of how a genuine Danish tax statement should look, it is hardly too much to expect that Danish embassy staff should be able to do it without much work and then provide a letter attesting that everything looks to be in order. 

And  to the clowns who for some reasons seemed to think they would provide the letter in Danish: obviously the embassy provides this in English.  Not in Danish, Icelandic, or Gothic.

 

The fact that the Danish embassy is with immediate effect ceasing to provide this verification is appalling as it may very well leave many of it's citizens with no other choice than to leave Thailand in order to get enough seasoning time to switch to the 400/800k in the bank method.

 

[British Embassy Bangkok to Stop Certification of Income Letters]

3 hours ago, mfd101 said:

It's pretty obvious that, whatever it was called and whatever the Thai authorities thought or think (assuming they do), the annual declaration of income could not possibly be verified by ANY embassy even though you produce documents in support. Embassies are not a detective force. All ANY of them have ever done in reality is to witness YOUR signature on some form of affidavit or statutory declaration, with or without some supporting doco.

 

Your claim to know how all embassies in Thailand verify income is very impressive.

 

To get such a letter from my embassy I had to in the past produce salary slips for

the last handful of months as well as the previous years tax report from the IRS.

 

Of course these documents can be forged, as most other things, but certainly it would be much easier for my embassy to verify the documents as genuine than some Thai office.  Perhaps the penalty for forging government documents like the tax report from IRS would also put a damper on most such thoughts.

 

 

3 hours ago, mfd101 said:

If the Thais NOW want REAL proof of income, then demonstration of funds moving more or less regularly into Thailand will be the only way to do it, I should think.

 

Which would be completely meaningless as there is nothing, except the annoyance of some transfer fees, from stopping anyone from transferring the same money back and forth every month.

 

[Thailand re entry problem for long time Thai traveller]

8 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

I have yet to see any legal text which describes how the OP's activity violates the terms of Tourist Visa use as written.  If he were working-illegally or similar - then, yes.
 

 

Never mind what the official Thai law says.  It violates the terms of the resident better-than-thou ThaiVisa geezers here, which obviously supercede any Thai law.

[Can wife cancel my non o visa]

Ask this question in the https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/forum/1-thai-visas-residency-and-work-permits/ group for better answers, but don't think you have anything to worry about regarding an already existing extension based on marriage, as long as you remain married.

If it's an actual visa (i.e., something you got from an embassy outside Thailand), nothing to worry about even if divorced.

[Regarding 1 year ban for overstaying]

On 9/21/2017 at 10:12 AM, darrendsd said:

This maybe so 

 

This is all maybe so and I do not doubt you but all this complex info is not going to help the OP get his problem sorted

 

Only following what some posters have advised him to do (including yourself in another post)  will resolve his problem

 

Hopefully he will but even when he does I doubt he will ever be told the exact reason why it happened, he will just be told it is now sorted and you can fly to Thailand again

 

But it does provide a quite good explanation to the OP regarding what has quite likely happened.  Thanks to 007 Red for that.  It was interesting to read.  It would also indicate that trying again, possibly with another airline, will not help, unless there has been so many complaints since the OP's last denied boarding that Thai immigration have become aware of a systemic problem and started to recheck all old entries for correctness by themselves.

 

I suspect 007 Red's suggestion of turning up at immigration in Thailand may be the best way of getting the problem fixed, after entering through a land border where there will presumably be a human who will examine the records of his ban, and not an automated computer system rejecting him.

 

I also like UbonJoe's  idea of contacting the local Thai airways office for help as a first try, showing them the old passport too.  Would not expect the OP being able to make the local Thai embassy take any interest in such a problem.

 

 

[Non Immigrant O based on Thai child]

Great.  Thanks.

[Non Immigrant O based on Thai child]

3 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

If you are getting a print out at an Amphoe it will have info that is equal to page one. Page 1 has the house number and etc on it.

 

Ah, that's great.  So in that case, I will not need page one of the house book too, just the one page printout from Ampho with the child's address, right?

[Non Immigrant O based on Thai child]

11 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

You will need copies of page 1 and the page your child is registered of the house book.

You now need 400k baht in the bank or proof of income.

Ah, that's a pity.  Amphur will provide a copy of the page the child is registered on, but no page one I'm told.  So looks like this is not an option for me then, as I do not have access to the original house book for copying.

 

 

[Non Immigrant O based on Thai child]

On 1/6/2016 at 8:26 AM, ubonjoe said:

Only the child's birth certificate plus a copy and a copy of their house book registry is needed.

Nothing from the mother will be needed.

 

Can anyone confirm this is still the current requirement in Penang for a multi-entry non-o?

 

- Child's original birth certificate + copy.

- Copy of child's house book page (a single page).

- About 100,000 Baht in a bank account.

 

 

[New Passport, do I have transfer my Extension of Stay too to it ?]

When you enter the country after getting the new passport you would need to show both passports to use the re-entry permit in the old one. You would be stamped into the country to the date shown on the re-entry permit in your new passport.

Then you would need to go to immigration to have all your stamps transferred to the new one.

Do you have to do this on your first reentry into Thailand with the new passport, or can you enter Thailand with an extension of stay in your old passport more than once? E.g. if it's difficult to get to an imm. office in time on your first (short) reentry.

[Poor / No Hygiene Rimping @ Maya]

Sharktooth, your comments about Rimping are disturbing. One reason I always shop there is because I expect a higher degree of cleanliness but I am aware that the culture here is not up to most of the western world standards, such as HACCP, regarding food safety. It would not take much effort to train food/meat servers at Rimping to wash hands and don gloves when preparing food for customers. I've seen servers behind the meat counters wearing gloves most of the time. Maybe I have to pay closer attention. I haven't had any health problems so far but I don't eat in street stalls and I have had Hep shots in the past. Maybe that helps a little. Thanks for the post!

I think so too. Good on sharktooth for trying to get in touch with the correct person, and a pity the correct person was not available.

Videotaping it also sounds like a great idea in hindsight. If not getting any response from the one in charge, put it on youtube/facebook.

[Best Swimming pool, Steam/Sauna, Gym combo in Chiang Mai?]

Thanks for all the great suggestions. It sounds like best options are Sansara, Dong Tuan and Shangri-la. Of the 3, Sansara is a good 30-40mins away so only got quotes for the other 2 as follows:

Dong Tuan

1x guest entry - B300

membership:

1mo - 2000

3mo - 5000

6mo - 8500

12mo - 12000

Shangri-la

1x guest entry - B300

membership:

1mo - 3000

3mo - 20,000 (interesting rate jumps so high from 1mo)

6mo - ?

12mo - 29,000

Anyone confirm these rates?

Shangri-la rates have to be wrong. Why would anyone pay 20,000 up front for a three month membership, instead of paying 3000 per month for three months?

I don't like hotel gyms much myself, so I would also check also Harris fitness (gym only so-so, but would expect it to be better than most hotel gyms, even at 5-star places (not that I think Duangtawan is 5-star)) for the off chance that it can be combined, possibly separately, with a membership for the hotel pool that I think is in the same building.

[Overcharging farangs in CM bars]

OMG! You dirtied your trousers over 51 bhat!!

Weee, went all the way to reply #20 this time before the first idiot comment.

[Fitness In Sanpatong]

Possibly the gym at Sansaran moo baan is the closest, but I do not know the area well.