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Care to expound how that works?
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I remember in the past that if timed correctly you can use an OA visa for two years before getting the retirement extension providing all requirements are met
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1 minute ago, crees said:
The impression I have gotten from SS Manila is they have no time to answer anything. I keep getting an automatic e-mail reply that I must wait 5 business days before trying to contact them again … what they mean to say is "good luck and see if Jesus will help you"
Seems Jesus won't help either as usual....crazy and so important,but Lopburi's clue helped...now if I could only get that form...
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1 minute ago, JohnnyBD said:
Better you ask Ubonjoe about SS direct deposits. I am not on SS yet and I do international transfers to Thailand.
OK tried sending a message to him this morning...it said I cannot message him...He is the guy though. Thanks again Johnny
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2 minutes ago, JohnnyBD said:
Why do you say "with only passbook access"? My THB savings account has an ATM card tied to it where I can withdraw monies from an ATM and that is what I use and that is accepted...
Johnny is that with a Social Security direct deposit?f so...I am already setif I could only get the for from SS
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6 minutes ago, JohnnyBD said:
The bank officer was probably confused by you calling it a direct deposit account. All you really need is a THB savings account. When you send money over, it is automatically converted to THB. If you want to convert USD to THB yourself, then you would also need a foreign currency account, then you would convert it to THB at your convenience. That's what I do...
cool...I keep being told that my savings account will not work for this and I must open a direct deposit account, then can transfer it at the counter into my savings so I can use my atm, etc....who knows? So I opened up what they called a "fixed" account also. Now cannot get the form to change my direct deposit due to not having access to the "My Account". I forgot my login details and last night they blocked me from too many attempts. Been one of those days...weeks....
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Having a difficult time getting the US Embassy in manila to respond to my emails or answer their phones...I set up a "my account" years ago and cannot find my username/password and it has blocked me from further attempts. Does anyone have the link to print out the form for changing your direct deposit account. Seems I saw Ubon Joe post it but cannot find it now. Also Bangkok Bank Krabi main branch did not know what a direct deposit account was and after 45 minutes they decided I needed a fixed account so set one up but fear it may be the wrong one to receive my direct deposits from SS through the New York branch of Bangkok Bank
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Alright, for those who failed to follow this thread, and seemed to have missed pertinent information I will recount what got me the non-o. I have no time to deal with any petty misinformed crap so prevalent. Firstly I do have a life and my job is not to immediately jump onto thaivisa every few hours... I will also state that individuals have their own agendas, goals and plans to achieve them so there is no right way not wrong way if you qualify legally for a retirement ext. I am referring to the several pretentious individuals who kept up the mantra to "simply deposit 800,000 baht and forget the income requirements" . I prefer to do other things with my savings that are of my own devices. Sorry I don't fit you ideas of how to go about this. I did live in the P.I. for 12 years, my wife owns property there, and have a large extended family there. I simply choose to not live there. Again sorry to offend those who wish I did what they suggest. The arrogance only seems to increase on Thai visa and I spend very little time here dealing with this. When I have a question I can sometimes get a correct answer after sorting through the bs...
I got my non-o 90 day visa in Penang with the usual paperwork...pertinent copies from my passport, certified copies of birth certificates, marriage certificates, etc. What this thread is about is the difficulty of getting the direct deposit set up within the 90 days allotted. I happened to fall into a window that made my particular situation tenuous timewise. I had received some incorrect advice from my local Krabi IO's, and tons of it here. I believe it best to get ones info directly from the horses mouth so I called ahead to the Penang consulate to inquire there about exactly what I needed to show I have the required 65,000 Baht. The polite gentleman spoke to me as respectfully as anyone and told me to simply bring ANYTHING to show my income, even my own bank monthly statements. He explained correctly that when I apply for my ext. the direct deposts in a Thai account matter, but for the non-o is was not necessary. I asked about needing some stamp or anything from my credit union confirming my statements. He said "no". I thanked him and asked his name so I could reference him if I had another officer there tell me otherwise. He stated that I would not need his name as everyone in that consulate were on the same page as him. I laughed and thanked him for his candor. So when I turned in my paperwork, the lady saw my total income from that account more than surpassed the 65,000 baht minimum, and she spent less than 5 seconds perusing that years worth of printouts. She had to remind me that I needed an additional photo page copy for my wifes paper stack. There was a gentleman outside in a van set up with cameras for visa photos and copy machines so I got the additional copy that I had forgotten. I handed it to her a few minutes later and she reminded me that I would be receiving 90 days only, I nodded and she handed me my ticket to pick up my visa the next afternoon. The next day was easy also...I was number 4 in line and we all got our visas in just a few minutes, absolutely pain free. Now I must also add that approximately 100 days earlier I had gotten a non-o 90 day visa in Kota Bharu without showing any bank statements whatsoever. I was unable to get the direct deposits into my Bangkok Bank in time before the 90 days was up on the first non-o from Kota Bharu...and now the beer truck is making my delivery to my house so see ya...have to argue without me till next time...
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Penang was sooo smooth and professional...picked up my non-O in ten minutes ......should have posted the results a couple days ago but have been simply drunk on the floor ....
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11 hours ago, Mike Teavee said:
Do you think that they meant go to Penang and get a Non-O Multi-Entry which would give you unlimited 90 day entries for 1 year?
No they were both very specific about the o-a and discussed at length how the one year would get me plenty of time for the banking changes to occur. As to the income affidavit being available outside Thailand was news to me and I suspect others also can benefit from that and does explain why I was asked so many times for the embassy affidavit. Thank you for that tidbit. For a current update on my saga, I went to the consulate in Penang this morning with the same paperwork I have drug around now to 5 separate immigration entities. They had a gentleman outside before they opened checking everyone's paperwork before even entering the property. He then double checked everyone as they entered. Walked up to the window, exchanged pleasantries, and the man went through my paperwork, had absolutely no questions as he saw my bank statements that had no stamps, just printed out from my online banking for the last year showing every deposit and transaction. He then smiled, gave me the "ticket" to pick up my passport tomorrow afternoon.... visa is not in my actual hand but expect it to go as smoothly as it did 100 days ago in Kota Bharu. Very professional operation compared to the other various Thai Immigration facilities. There even was an enterprising young man parked outside with a van set up with copy machines AND a passport photo setup. Whoops! Actually before the righteous begin correcting me, it was a visa photo setup. So overall it was night and day between KL and Penang. Jack Thomson...thanks again for the info about the income affidavits availability at US Embassies outside Thailand. I believe this was the only actual true advice posted in this thread and will be useful to others instead of the usual attempts at tearing people down and appearing to have the correct knowledge... let us see what 2PM tomorrow brings
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30 minutes ago, moe666 said:
The new rules are 65,000b deposited in a Thai Bank account each and every month. If you are one of the 4 nations who no longer provides the income letter. A lot of people are being caught out who do not keep up to date on the news in Thailand
Yes my problem is a matter of timing. I have re -opened a Bangkok Bank account but it can take 60 days for Social Security to change deposit. Not sure what all the talk of an O-A is about. It is an "O" that I am pursuing. I did receive an "O" in Kota Bharu about 100 days ago without any copies of my bank account. The banking deposit has not completed yet so if I get another 90 day non-O it will all be done. Being sent to get the non O-A was in Penang was at the direction of two different immigration officials that should have known better. Also the lady in KL who completely disregarded the 65,000 Baht method, along with being apparently unaware that the US Embassy stopped the income affidavits because she asked me several times for the letter from my embassy. My perception was...is...that having the bank directly deposited into the Thai bank was more important when applying for the retirement extension rather than the non-O. Also for the mathematician, I have another bank account in Hawaii for another small Teamster pension that I choose not to include as the $3000 is way more than the 65,000 baht required but I do appreciate your math skills... another note, Krabi immigration requires at least two months of direct deposit completed before getting the retirement ext. We shall see what tomorrow brings...
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will attempt one in Penang
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9 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:
On what basis were you applying for a the non-o visa. The do not show one for retirement on their website and you do not qualify for a OA visa.
I think they were looking for at least 400k baht in the bank if you were applying for a non-o visa based upon marriage to a Thai.
My wife is a filipina...really have no clue as to why I do not qualify....and I was very clear as to the 65,000 income for a retirement ext. Lived here for many years and always did the same. I realize I don't qualify for the O-A, was doing a non-O, I was instructed by two immigration officials to go get an O-A in Penang....and who am I to argue with two of them
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An update on my continuing nightmare...been having an extremely difficult time getting a non-O in Malaysia. Went to Kota Bharu a few months back and got my non-o.
A couple weeks ago went to Krabi Immigration for retirement extension and was turned down because my 100,000 Baht monthly income was not directly deposited into my brand new Bangkok Bank account. I showed the printouts for one year from my Credit Union showing my monthly income from a pension and Social Security, totaling over 100,000 Baht monthly. The two main guys at Krabi immigration who have known me for about 10 years told me..." Jack we know you have money, BUT this must be deposited in the Thai Bank,etc. and that my bank statements were not enough proof. They both told me to go to Penang and get an O-A and with the one year, my bank changes will have time to occur.
Again the 65,000Baht method is what I have done for nearly a decade here. Turns out I made a post here about my intention to go to Penang as directed. I was informed correctly that the non-OA was out of the question. Thanks Ubon Joe for the info. So I read the various versions of requirements to get the O-A in Kuala Lumpur, and it seems it was not possible, depending on the source I was reading.
Off to KL with the family to simply get a non-O. I had the same statements from my american credit union along with all required documents. Now I had just been able to get a non-O in Kota Bharu 3 months earlier with the same docs. The lady went through our application and documents, and all was well until she saw the bank statement I brought showing again more than 100,000 baht monthly income. Turns out the day I printed out 24 pages of my years bank statements, my balance that day, was $540. It clearly showed my valid deposits but she honed in on the balance that particular day. She kept pointing to the $540 and repeating..."Not enough!" I attempted to explain that I had brought the printout along just for re-reinforcement that I had more than the required $65,000 but I lost. My family lost...she was apparently not aware of the three methods of income. She kept asking for the discontinued US Embassy income affidavit and seemed oblivious to everything I said.
So we took the overnight train to Penang where I am now and will deliver my application in the AM to the consulate. I had called a few days earlier and spoke to a worker at the Penang consulate and he assured me all I needed to bring was any kind of income proof and that my bank statement would suffice. So tomorrow we will make another attempt for a non-O. If that fails, we will try to get a 30 day upon arrival stamp. Then we will selloff our new Honda 300 and everything else and find another country to get my abuse... so disappointed in the immigration people sending us to the wrong city in another country and the lady who disregarded my income...I am not the cheater they are after
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13 minutes ago, jacko45k said:
That ain't happening. You are from the USA I believe and that is the only place you can get a Non-Imm OA.
hmmm...pretty sure they do it there...as Ubon Joe just suggested
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2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:
Which financial option are you using?
If you can show the 800k baht in any bank or have some basic proof of 65 baht income you may be able to get a multiple entry non-o visa in Penang.
Good aftermorning...I also need a bit of clarification. Long time retired in Thailand and had to leave for 4 years for medical reasons. Moved back recently and attempted a retirement ext. in Krabi a couple days ago. Krabis immigration is a good one and have developed relationships with them from many years of living here. They could not do mine as I had no direct deposit set up yet. I did arrive with my current bank statements from my American credit union showing my income from pension and social security to be a little over 100,000 Baht per month. My problem was more time oriented than money. This first attempt was with a non-O from Kota Bharu. Immigration Krabi gave me a 7 day ext., and told me to simply go get an O-A in Penang. I am reading the requirements and herin lies my confusion. It seems I also need a police clearance and a statement from my US bank. These are about impossible to get timewise if they are even required . So I have a medical cert. from krabi and my bank statements for the last year showing my income, along with all the normal birth ceritificates, house rental agreement, etc. It is the police clearance and bank guarantee from my american bank that has me in a serious tailspin today
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Thanks much Ubonjoe...sorry for the amateur writing. I will catch back on in a while. That is good news....
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have a 30 day on arrival, and reading tells me that you can extend both a 30 day and the 60 day if you arrived by airplane. Any idea on that? anyone done it recently?
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Good Morning, I have been gone from Thailand for 5 years, after a decade plus of living in the Kingdom. Is it still possible to get a 30 day extension in Bangkok without doing a visa run? Thanks in advance
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can do the same thing using empty rice bags doing it earth bag style
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I will be moving back to California in a couple months and am wondering if anyone had priced the fare for a large dog...???
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My retirement ext. expires on January 23, 2014. How many days earlier than that can I get this extended??? Thanks for any replies in advance
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My yearly extention expires on January 23, 2014. How many days earlier than that date can I get this extention?
OA visa two years
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Ah yes!!! It all comes rushing back…like a hot kiss at the end of a wet fist. I appreciate your reply…I used to know all this…really thanks again