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7 minutes ago, jackdd said:
The info is still wrong and also does not match the info given on the phuket immigration hompage: http://www.phuketimmigration.go.th/info/s37.php
I assume that the other poster was agreeing to the TM30 part, i doubt many people ask about TM28.
I saw what Phuket Immigration stated. However I did not mention Phuket Immigration, I mentioned Patong Immigration at Phuket just down from Bangla road.
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16 hours ago, jackdd said:
Obviously there was either a communication problem between your wife and the IO or the IO just had no idea what he was talking about.
No the Immigration Officer has worked there for over 20 years and my wife had her sister with her who is Thai and speaks good English and works casual at the Immigration office. My wife is fluent in Thai and English as well.
I see where another member has agreed with my comments exactly.
Patong Immigration at Phuket stated the same re TM 28, according to a friend I know down there.
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My wife went to Jomtien Immigration today to fill in a TM30 change of address form.
The Officer there checked the TM30 form, my Passport and the owners documents (my Wife) of the new address, all OK.
She then stamped the Receipt of Notification section on the bottom left of the form and filled in the new address.
The Officer then placed an Immigration stamp in Red in the Receipt of Notification section dated and put the time down, she signed in the stamp area that states Immigration Officer.
The Officer then tore off the bottom section of the TM30 form and stapled it into the rear of my Passport stating if anyone asks about address show them the Passport.
The officer stated that each time I leave Thailand and Re-Enter; my wife must fill in a new TM30 form.
Re TM28.
My wife made inquiries re the TM28 form and did I have to fill one in if I was away from my home for over 24 hours say at Hua Hin, or Koh Chang Island for a few days.
The officer stated NO, the hotel or owner of the home that I am staying will fill in a form and take a copy of my Passport and address. They will forward this to Immigration.
For your information.
OZEMADE
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The website below is the new updated verion from the Thai Consulate Sydney.
All Non Immigrant Visas on this site state 90 Day maximum stay
http://www.thaiembassy.org/sydney/en/home
Old Visa Fees
Visa Type
Fee for Single entry (AUD)
Fee for Multiple entries (AUD)
Transit visa
45
90 (Double entries)
Tourist visa
55
275
Non-Immigrant visa
110
275
Retirement visa
275 (For 1 year)
550 (For 5 year)
Working Holiday visa
275
Only cash or money order are accepted (personal/company cheque are not accepted)
Money order payable to “Royal Thai Consulate-General, Sydney”
Adjusted Visa Fees (effective from 13 August 2019)
Visa Type
Fee for Single entry (AUD)
Fee for Multiple entries (AUD)
Transit visa
50
100 (Double entries)
Tourist visa
60
300
Non-Immigrant visa
120
300
Retirement visa
300 (For 1 year)
600 (For 5 year)
Working Holiday visa
300
Only cash or money order are accepted (personal/company cheque are not accepted)
Money order payable to “Royal Thai Consulate-General, Sydney”
Oct 12, 2018 7:31:19 / Updated : Aug 01, 2019 7:50:49 / Read 9,941 Views
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In 15 years I have never reported on arrival to immigration. On the rare occasion I have had to report to immigration because of staying longer than 90 days. Currently travelling around Thailand the hotels report me staying with them for 1 or 2 nights, taking copy of Passport. However Thai wife never ever filled form in or had to report personally to immigration.
Sounds like this is now changing, is this being enforced at Pattaya Immigration yet.
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I was under the impression that you had already reported you place of residence as to where you will be staying on your TM6 Arrival Card when you enter the country. The next time you would have to report it, would be 3 months later.
Also if you had a Yellow House book you would not have to take the owner.
If you had a Thai ID card I presume that would also be acceptable.
Someone may put me on the right track in relation to these three matters I mentioned.
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I did this last week, I had to get a stamp put on my old passport for Jomtien/Chon Buri Immigration from the Australian Embassy. Had to make an appointment on line to get into the embassy. This is what the stamp looks like.
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32 minutes ago, cleverman said:
You assume. Pure supposition. They are saying no more that what they are saying. (Stat decs)
Some people like yourself cant see the forest for the trees.
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43 minutes ago, cleverman said:
If you read the embassy public notice very carefully, you will see that it says absolutely nothing about certifying documents. We are all trying to sort things out but false reporting gets none of us anywhere. I have the 800000K anyway so if I've got to go that rout, then so be it.
I thought it was quite clear about certification.
Under WHY, It states, Thai Immigration wants us to verify your income or bank balance and we are unable to do this.
So apart from not verifying your signature on a Stat Dec, they are saying they will not certify your documents (print outs) of your bank balance if you produce it.
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18 minutes ago, moe666 said:
As usual the immigration officer saying things that have not come to pass, there still has been no directive from on high as to what immigration will require starting next year. if it is the money in bank only option I will convert to a marriage visa as I will need to tie up less money in the bank. On monday handed all of my paper work to my agent for my extension of stay including bank statements in the US and a Thai bank statement showing a transfer good for 4 months at 65,00 bhat. She didn't think there would be a problem, I will find out tomorrow at 1630. By the way only a 4000 bhat charge for extension of stay and a tm30 up date. yes I know could have done it myself for cheaper but I have done it myself and decided a few years ago no need really and it is cheap enough
This is what the US Embassy Bangkok have put out on their website. Obviously they have been talking to Thai Immigration in Bangkok.
https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=556101
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28 minutes ago, cleverman said:
Has TI said they will not accept certified embassys documation as to an Ozzies income. Yes or no. I rest my case.
The Australian Embassy will no longer issue stat dec or certify documents in relation to income from the 7 January 2019. But to my knowledge any Stat Dec that was made before or on the 7 January is good for 6 months. After that No TI will not accept them.
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First of all you have to book an appointment on line, you can't just rock up to the Australian Embassy in Bangkok without an appointment, they wont see you unless it is an emergency. (Which yours may well be)
Click on the link at bottom of page and follow the steps to book an appointment.
Go there by taxi as there is no parking anywhere near the Embassy. I found it easier to park in a Lotus supermarket and taxied from there and back. Normally first 3 hrs free.
Passport and Notarial Services by appointment ONLY, Monday to Friday between 8:30am and 3:00pm(subject to appointment availability and excluding Embassy public holidays).
Booking policy
Clients should arrive 10 minutes prior to appointments for security screening. If you arrive late for your appointment you will need to reschedule to when an officer is available.
Bookings can be made 2 months in advance. Refer to your notification email if you need to amend or cancel your appointment (see example below).
Please ensure you select the correct type of service when you make the appointment. If you select the wrong service, we may not be able to help at your appointment time.
Take your old passport with you as they will want to see the damaged one and order a new one for you.
Make sure you tell them you want to pick up your NEW Passport up at the Embassy as they have to place a small stamp into your old one, which states,
(This Passport has been cancelled and replaced
by passport number _________________________
Any valid visas in this passport remain valid.
Australian Embassy Bangkok.)
They will then stamp it with a small stamp that states,
( Deptartment of Foreign Affairs and Trade, Passport Office.)
The new passport is going to cost you about AU$300.00 and the embassy stamp about THB1900.00.
Credit/Debit Card, not sure about cash?
Click this link for your appointment which will be Messaged back to you for confirmation. They should message you when your new passport arrives and you can pick it up at the embassy. Make sure you take your old passport and drivers licence for identification or they wont give it to you.
Once you have the new passport and the old passport with the embassy stamp in it, fill out a form at the Thai Immigration office, something like transfer visa stamp to new passport letter. You can down load it off this Thaivisa link I think.
https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=439177
Australian Embassy Link
https://thailand.embassy.gov.au/bkok/home.html
Hope this helps
OZEMADE
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Just did my Retirement extension at Jomtien Chon Buri Immigration on the 11/12/1018 and it was due on the 11/01/2019. Went through with out a worry.
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6 hours ago, kimchibob said:
Attended the US Embassy Outreach Program at the Dusit Thani Hotel today in Pattaya. Prior to the program beginning, the Deputy of the American Citizen Services Section provided some remarks on the ongoing issue of income verification. She assured us that Income Affidavit Letters will be honored by Thai Immigration for a period of up to six months after date of issue. Additionally, she announced that they had scheduled a meeting with Jomtien Immigration at 10:30 to discuss the options for income verification after Income Affidavit Letters will no longer be accepted. Somewhat encouraging that the Embassy is at least making an effort to assist its citizens. We shall see what the results are.
Beginning January 1, 2019, the U.S. Embassy in Bangkok and the U.S. Consulate General in Chiang Mai will no longer provide the income affidavit and will not notarize previous versions of the income affidavit.
See attachment below.
US Embassy Thailand factsheet-income-affidavit.pdf
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5 minutes ago, cleverman said:
False news. The Oz embassy have said they will certify documents that prove income . Stat decs are not going to be use after January.
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1 hour ago, OJAS said:
Out of curiosity is the British notice also posted on said wall? If so, then I trust that the BS nonsense which it included regarding the acceptability of monthly income has been clearly redacted!
No its not on the Immigration office like the Aussie one, but it is clearly stated on the British Embassy Thailand web site.
The last day for you to get one from the British Embassy was today 12 /12/18 They will issue no more Income letters. See last paragraph highlighted.
British Embassy Announcement
From 1 January 2019, the British Embassy Bangkok will no longer be providing British Nationals with letters confirming their income. This letter has previously served as a supporting document for obtaining a Thai retirement or marriage visa. The British Embassy Bangkok is stopping the certification of income letters because it is unable to fulfil the Thai authorities’ requirements to verify the income of British Nationals.
British Nationals should now demonstrate that they have an amount of at least 800,000 THB in an account in Thailand for no less than three months prior to the visa application, or a monthly income of at least 65,000 THB transferred into an account in Thailand. For marriage visas British Nationals should demonstrate that they have an amount of at least 400,000 THB in an account in Thailand for no less than three months prior to the visa application, or a monthly income of at least 40,000 THB. A bank statement should be used as the supporting document for obtaining a Thai retirement or marriage visa.
All British Nationals concerned should note that the last date for applications is 12 December 2018. Further information
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16 minutes ago, Jingthing said:
So wave that official order in the face of an officer enforcing a possibly totally new policy and see how far it gets you.
I'm simply suggesting people need to be aware that something very major MAY be afoot at Chonburi immigration starting next year.
I hope not. I'm not invested in my info being correct. It seemed credible enough to me to share.
Same as me Jingthing, can only repeat what I saw, heard and asked about. I suppose we will all have to keep fingers crossed and wait until January. Although in another 6 or 12 months things will no doubt change again.
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3 minutes ago, fforest1 said:I saw a lot of people knocked back today in relation to NOT having enough cash in the bank, NOT having the cash in the bank for 3 months and one American even with his letter from the US Embassy knocked back as his money did not tally up and cover his monthly expenses.
Really?.......You stood out side the immigration office and interviewed people as they left to get info on exactly what was going on with them?
Yea right.....
Where did you get I stood outside interviewing people as they left? you make these stories up in your mind.
No I and my Thai wife sat in front of No 8 desk, the Retirement Visa desk waiting for 1 hour and watched and listened to what the Immigration officer told people. I was 2 feet away. Check it out yourself. We then made inquiries as to what we do next year when I want to renew my Retirement Visa and as I have already stated, THB 800,000.00 in a Thai Bank.
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8 minutes ago, fforest1 said:
Of course Chon Buri will be accepting embassy letters...
The embassy letters are good for 6 months....
They are suppose to be good for 6 months from the date they were stamped at the Embassy. But do Immigration know this. Worth checking out before too late. I got the feeling today that they will only accept them up to end of year, only guessing. Check for yourself.
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10 minutes ago, madmen said:
I would have slipped in, but it's OK if I use an agent right? Just to which him stutter his way through the reply
Obviously cost you. Agent arent cheap anything up to THB25000 no questions asked.
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1 hour ago, Thaidream said:
I have the required funds in the Us and I have no intention on bringing 800K into Thailand to sit in a Thai Bank. Unless there is no other choice. I can prove a monthly income above 65K per month with no problem and I am prepared to do that. The current Police Order states that these funds can be in any bank and that proof of income is required. One letter from my pension provider should do it backed by a direct deposit statement into my bank. If Immigration cannot look at 2 added pieces of paper- there is something radically wrong and I have every reason to believe I would be referred to an agent whom i have no desire to deal with.
I shall wait for the guidance from immigration Central before I make any move and then see what immigration offices decide to comply.
British, USA, Australian and others Embassys have already notified their patrons that they will NOT be issueing Embassy letters for financial purposes, check out their sites for confirmation. Australia stops on the 7th January and the Australian notice is clearly posted on the wall at the Retirement counter number 8 at the Chon Buri Immigration office. Chon Buri also stated they will not be accepting them and they will only accept THB 800,000.00 in a Thai Bank.
I dont like your chances definitely at the Chon Buri office
an update on the 3 Embassys.
AMERICAN EMBASSY
NOTICE: The Consular Section of the U.S. Embassy in Bangkok is pleased to offer a full-day of notary services on Thursday, December 20, 2018. Service will be provided by appointment only. There will be approximately 300 notarial appointments available.
Please visit us here to make an appointment.Beginning January 1, 2019, U.S. Embassy Bangkok and U.S. Consulate General Chiang Mai will no longer provide the income affidavit.
We will not notarize previous versions of the income affidavit. For more information, please refer to our Fact Sheet (PDF 266KB) and Frequently Asked Questions(PDF 419KB). We will continue to notarize income affidavit forms through the end of 2018. Thai Immigration Bureau officials confirmed that they will support early visa renewals for U.S. citizens during the transition period.British Embassy Announcement
From 1 January 2019, the British Embassy Bangkok will no longer be providing British Nationals with letters confirming their income. This letter has previously served as a supporting document for obtaining a Thai retirement or marriage visa. The British Embassy Bangkok is stopping the certification of income letters because it is unable to fulfil the Thai authorities’ requirements to verify the income of British Nationals.
British Nationals should now demonstrate that they have an amount of at least 800,000 THB in an account in Thailand for no less than three months prior to the visa application, or a monthly income of at least 65,000 THB transferred into an account in Thailand. For marriage visas British Nationals should demonstrate that they have an amount of at least 400,000 THB in an account in Thailand for no less than three months prior to the visa application, or a monthly income of at least 40,000 THB. A bank statement should be used as the supporting document for obtaining a Thai retirement or marriage visa.
All British Nationals concerned should note that the last date for applications is 12 December 2018. Further information
AUSTRALIAN Embassy announcement
Consular Notarial Services Update
As of 7 January, the Embassy will no longer witness statutory declarations that declare income or bank balances for Thai Immigration purposes. (More)
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1 hour ago, Thaidream said:
Another Immigration Office with their own interpretation of the Immigration law. This is not what people have been told at CW or Chaing Mai or Korat or Mukdahan. At least they accepted the Embassy Letter.
Glad you got your extension. Cheers
British, USA, Australian and others Embassys have already notified their patrons that they will NOT be issueing Embassy letters for financial purposes, check out their sites for confirmation. Australia stops on the 7th January and the Australian notice is clearly posted on the wall at the Retirement counter number 8 at the Chon Buri Immigration office. Chon Buri also stated they will not be accepting them and they will only accept THB 800,000.00 in a Thai Bank.
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3 minutes ago, janclaes47 said:
Thanks forr mentioning that, now it's just waiting for the usual deniers from the related threads to come here and read it.
No problem mate, I can only pass on what I was told first hand by the Immigration officer that handles renewing retirement visas.
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Update on my Application for temporary stay in the Kingdom TM7/Retirement Visa.
All went well and smooth sailing. Immigration checked all my docs the TM7, copy of Passport Identity, Passport Retirement Visa stamp, letter from Australian Embassy re financial status, copy new TM6 Departure card, copy house book, THB 1900.00.
They thoroughly checked out my Australian Embassy Stat Dec, re the monthly income that I had declared on their calculator. All OK.
I was told that this was the last time I could use an Embassy Stat Dec for Income purposes.
They stated I would have to have THB 800,000.00 in a Thai Bank for three months prior to applying to renew my retirement Visa next year. No excuses.
The place was absolutely packed out , there were hundreds of people inside and the line went to the road, all cafés were full and the Visa shop that takes photos and copy docs was also flat out.
Even with having all our papers in order, we waited 2 hours to have the TM7 approved and pick it up tomorrow at 2PM.
DOWNSIDE FOR A LOT TODAY
I saw a lot of people knocked back today in relation to NOT having enough cash in the bank, NOT having the cash in the bank for 3 months and one American even with his letter from the US Embassy knocked back as his money did not tally up and cover his monthly expenses.
BE WARNED
They made it quite clear you must have THB 800,000.00 in a Thai Bank for 3 months prior to applying for renewing your Retirement Visa.
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TM30 and TM28 Jomtien Immigration
in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
Posted · Edited by OZEMADE
Update
Correct if you leave Thailand for any reason, you must have Immigration do another new TM30 to place into your Passport. Even if it is still the same address.
I would also to add that I have never had to do a TM30 or a TM28 in the 16 years I have been Retired in Thailand. This is the first time had to do TM30 and I leave Thailand twice a year.