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8 hours ago, Kwasaki said:The remainers are still here then, there is much going and positive news too.
Will you break the habit of Brexiteers so far and actually give an example?
Well, you did say
8 hours ago, Kwasaki said:There are signs the Biden administration wants a more conciliatory relationship on trade with the UK than Donald Trump did.
But:
31/12/20: Brexit Britain Warned Biden Wants Trade Deal With EU Before UK
26/3/21; U.K.-U.S. Trade Deal Is Likely Years Away as Biden Shifts Focus
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16 hours ago, Loiner said:Keep asking, as many times as you like.
Keep trying, cos I won’t bite.Of course you wont; because after nearly 5 years, you obviously still can't identify a single benefit of Brexit!
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14 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:Well didn't the "once in a generation" vote count. Don't tell me the EU vote makes a difference, more people voted to Leave in Scotland than voted for the SNP.
In the 2016 referendum, 38% of voters in Scotland voted 'Leave.' (Source)
In the 2019 general election, 45% of voters in Scotland voted for the SNP. (Source)
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21 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:Correct. But, Scottish MPs can also vote on issues involving only England. Is that fair?
Ah, the West Lothian question.
No; it is not fair that not only Scottish but also Northern Irish and Welsh MPs can vote on purely English matters.
Hence the English votes for English laws. Introduced in 2015, but temporarily suspended in April 2020.
21 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:In answer to your question, Scotland are looking to break up the Union. Therefore I believe that everyone within that union should have a say. The UK and Scotland are connected in so many ways, not just with finance.
Scottish nationalists are not looking to break up the union; but they are looking to leave it. Did the UK break up when what is now the RoI left in 1922? No.
Yes, the UK and Scotland are connected in many ways; not just as a political union. But if another referendum is in favour of independence, how can you claim holding Scotland in the union against the expressed wishes of the majority of Scots is democratic?
You asked is it fair that Scottish MPs can vote on English only matters. How can it be fair, let alone democratic, if the wishes of the English, Welsh and Northern Irish force Scotland to remain in the union against the will of the majority of Scots?
In fact, you seem to be contradicting yourself
23 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:Like I have said numerous times before, I have nothing against Scottish independence. In fact, I wish they would get on with it.
You want them to get on with it; but only if we give them permission?
21 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:The UK voted to leave the EU, not to break it up. UK and EU were not connected in as many ways. None other than financially, trade, etc.
Look up the meaning of 'simile.'
I repeat; Scottish nationalists want to leave the UK, not break it up. The UK will still exist after Scotland has left.
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4 minutes ago, Chill27 said:
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As I have previously tried to explain above. I conducted Google searches from within Thailand and was directed to US specific information, without it being made clear that it only applied to the US.
That is not the fault of UKVI, UK Border Force nor any other UK government department!
I wish you luck in her application to extend; but if you are relying on information you read about US visas as a reason for an extension; forget it.
8 minutes ago, Chill27 said:<snip>
I any case, I would never have thought that two countries as close as the US and the UK, would have two totally different interpretations of the term "Expiry Date" !
As in many areas and laws, the UK and US have different immigration rules and procedures.
I'm surprised you are unaware of the many differences between US English and UK English! For example; trousers and pants, pavement and sidewalk, chips and fries, jam and jelly. Indeed, as your quote shows, in the US they don't use 'expiry date,' the use 'expiration date.'
Does your girlfriend's visa just have one, expiry date on it or does it have two dates, from and until, as per the example I posted?
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2 hours ago, soalbundy said:
How utterly pointless, devoid of any meaning.
Not to the organisers and others who have lost loved ones.
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2 hours ago, PETERTHEEATER said:
Under the Criminal Damage Act 1971, anyone caught doing graffiti can face a prison sentence of up to ten years or fined if the damage costs more than £5,000.
How is 'painting hearts' on a hospital wall different? Answers, on a postcard please, to Boris Johnson........
Your uncredited quote from The Sun does not tell the whole story.
What it doesn't say is that even if prior permission is neither sought nor granted, if the owner of the property has no objection then the graffiti is not illegal. Unless the words or images incite an offence under the Public Order Act 1986.
The wall concerned is on the Albert Embankment outside St. Thomas'. I don't know who owns that wall, the hospital or Lambeth Council. But if the owner has no objections, and why would they have, then it is not illegal.
Just as the graffiti like that covering the wall outside Abbey Road studios is not illegal; just as the graffiti by people such as Banksy is not illegal
For more, see What is Graffiti? Note, this is the law in England and Wales, though that in Scotland and Northern Ireland is very similar.
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1 hour ago, Chill27 said:
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And the whole thing could been avoided if they issued a paper along with the Visa, spelling out what "Expiry Date" actually means for a UK visa.
Sorry, but 'expiry date' has a specific meaning in English: "the date at which a document, agreement, etc. has no legal force or can no longer be used." (Source)
The last time I looked, UK visit visas also had two dates; valid from and valid until.
When did this change?
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49 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:As you well know, the relationship between Uk and EU and Scotland and UK is totally different.
Like I have said numerous times before, I have nothing against Scottish independence. In fact, I wish they would get on with it. Then, maybe then, the Scots will stop banging on about how everything is everyone else's fault.
You've dodged the question.
You said "If Scotland hold another referendum without the go ahead from a majority of MPs in Westminister (sic), surely it would not be deemed democratic."
I asked you why. Will you now answer?
My MEP remark was a bit facetious; but there are similarities.
The UK was a member of a union; the EU. However, in most areas we had our own laws and our MPs voted on and enacted laws which were specific to the UK and outside the remit of the EU.
Scotland is a member of a union; the UK. However, in most areas it has it's own laws and MSPs vote on and enact laws which are specific to Scotland and outside the remit of the rest of the UK.
Even before the establishment of the Scottish parliament, only Scottish MPs at Westminster could vote on and enact laws relating to Scotland only. That is still the case.
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2 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:If Scotland hold another referendum without the go ahead from a majority of MPs in Westminister, surely it would not be deemed democratic.
Why?
Did the UK obtain the go ahead for the 2016 EU referendum from a majority of MEPs in Strasburg? No; yet that referendum was deemed democratic.
If the majority of Scots vote in a referendum to leave the UK then that is their democratic decision.
Whilst an ardent unionist, I hope that if that is the case then the UK government will allow democracy to prevail and so grant Scotland it's wish.
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15 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:<snip>
Liz Truss is doing a great job, or didn't the BBC/Guardian report that?.
Really?
Her one major deal which isn't merely a roll over of the deals we had as EU members is the Japanese deal. And that's merely the crumbs the EU didn't want and many of it's tariff free concessions are for goods we don't export!
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On 3/28/2021 at 6:23 PM, youreavinalaff said:Majority? 45% is not a majority.
Neither are 2 people out of an estimated population of 5.46 million!
A reminder that the UK Scotland voted to remain a part of in 2014 is not the UK now.
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On 3/28/2021 at 6:22 PM, youreavinalaff said:But the Scottish nationalists were so certain they would win they didn't bother with any kind of agreement, did they?
Was that short sightedness or arrogance? Either way, not a great advert for a group of politicians who thing they can run an independent country.
No kind of agreement? On the contrary, there was; the Edinburgh Agreement.
However, there is no mention of any time limit, minimum or maximum, between Scottish independence referendums in the Edinburgh Agreement, the Scotland Act 1998 (Modification of Schedule 5) Order 2013 nor the Scottish Independence Referendum Act 2013.
This means that the Scottish Parliament can hold another referendum at any time they wish.
Though a win for independence to come into effect would need the approval of the UK Parliament at Westminster.
Do you really think that any UK government could legitimately ignore the democratically expressed wish of the Scottish; especially if there was a large majority in favour?
Even Johnson's government?
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On 3/28/2021 at 5:40 PM, Loiner said:You’ve tried that enough times before and I’m still not going to pander to you. You’ve (collectively) had the benefits many times before.
I have certainly asked that question many times before; as have others.
Yet, despite your claim, neither you nor anyone else has ever been able to come up with an answer.
Go on; prove me wrong by finally providing one.
On 3/28/2021 at 5:40 PM, Loiner said:I won’t be wasting by time trying to persuade you. Didn’t you have my benefit posts deleted before? You are beyond hope.
What a feeble excuse.
How could I have had any posts deleted?
Even had I reported any of your posts, which I haven't, they would only have been deleted had they broken the forum rules. Did they?
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5 hours ago, Isaan sailor said:
Let’s begin by removing all the guns held by the bad guys. Then, we might not need our guns anymore...
The argument that good guys need guns because bad guys have guns ignores one important question: where do the bad guys get their guns from?
Surprisingly, very few steal them. Most use apparently legitimate users to buy for them or buy for themselves from corrupt gun shops. Where do criminals really get their guns?
QuoteAn official with the Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms Explosives (ATF) – the federal agency under the Department of Justice (DOJ) tasked with tracking and recovering trafficked weapons – told Fox News that “guns enter illegal commerce through one of three ways.”
The first is by private transactions in which guns bought at gun shows, flea markets or through private sales are later sold to prohibited persons.
The second, the official underscored, was by straw purchasers – individuals who buy guns from dealers and transfer them to prohibited persons.
The third category is theft from gun dealers and private citizens.
At the beginning of that article we see
QuoteDavid Chianese, a correspondent at Law Enforcement Today, published author and former NYPD detective. “Stricter or additional gun laws do not reduce gun violence.”
But what he and those who oppose gun control choose to ignore is that if guns were not so readably available from gun dealers, gun shows, flea markets and through private sales then it would be considerably harder for criminals to obtain them.
Not impossible, as Gun crime: How do weapons appear on England's streets? shows. But considerably more difficult.
Resulting in far less gun crime and gun deaths in the UK. This is three years old; but I doubt much has changed. 11,004 Gun Murders in US vs. 26 (equiv. 130) in England Annually
QuoteThe United States continues to be peculiar in handing out powerful magazine-fed firearms to almost anyone who wants one and not requiring background checks on private purchases even if these are made at gun shows or by persons with a history of mental illness. 80% of civilian-owned firearms world-wide are in the US, and only Yemen vaguely competes with us for rates of firearm ownership; Yemen is a violent mess with Shiite insurgencies, al-Qaeda taking over cities from time to time, tribal feuding, southern separatism and US drone strikes. And even it has fewer guns per person than the USA.
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6 hours ago, meechai said:
Puleeze if you think that is possible then your the one with the mental problem
But then again a simpleton type response usually comes from.....folks who do not even live in the US but are fed so much BS on TV they instantly become experts
If you are such an expert, how do you explain 3 mass shootings over 34 years in the UK vs 117 in the US in less than 3 months?
Could it be because we have proper gun control on this side of the pond?
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As far as I can make out, for a standard visit visa to be extended the reasons for requesting such have to be beyond the applicant's control. This is clearly not the case for your girlfriend. I have to agree with that you have little chance of success.
You say
On 3/27/2021 at 10:22 PM, Chill27 said:We've had to delay traveling since last Oct until my Mum finally got vaccinated.
But the simple truth is, as others have said, that you did not have to do so; you chose to do so.
There was no UK vaccination programme last October. The first vaccine approval wasn't until the 2nd December and the first vaccinations were on the 8th December. Even if there were, there is no reason why you could not have travelled to the UK in October.
Thailand isn't, and never has been, on the red list. So you could have quarantined at a private residence or hotel of your own choosing. Wherever you are doing that now, you could have done so last October.
Unless your mum is in a care home, you could then have visited her immediately your quarantine was over. In fact, you could have stayed with her whilst in quarantine!
How to quarantine when you arrive in England. (Note the links there for the slightly different rules if in Scotland, Northern Ireland or Wales.)
QuoteRules for the people you stay with
The people you’re staying with do not need to quarantine, unless:
they travelled with you
you or someone in the place where you’re staying develop symptoms of coronavirus
On 3/27/2021 at 10:22 PM, Chill27 said:I made a huge mistake, thinking the 9th April expiry date on my GF's visa was date by which we needed to use the visa, but that we'd then be granted the 120 stay. I got it horribly wrong!
Indeed you did; and I doubt that the decision makers will accept your mistake as a valid reason for an extension.
But I may be wrong, and wish you luck. Please let us know the outcome.
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6 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:
Illinois has among the strictest gun laws, including background checks of any state, in the USA. Yet Chicago has remains among the highest crime counts with shootings and murders.
Yes, Chicago has one of the highest gun crime rates out of any US city. But it's one city out of a whole state.
According to the CDC, Illinois has the 16th lowest rate of gun deaths. How much better would that be if Chicago was taken out of the figures?
There is gun crime in the UK, no one can deny that. However; we're talking about mass shootings in this topic. The UK has very strict gun controls and we have suffered three mass shootings in 34 years. Although the controls vary from state to state, the US has far laxer gun control and has suffered 117 mass shootings in less than the last three months!
The connection is obvious; or should be.
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15 hours ago, meechai said:
So your solution is what? Do nothing then?
Truth is when crazy comes to town not many can stop it
But you can enforce a real punishment for the perpetrators caught alive & why not?
In your "how will that" scenario's what is your answer?
Lock the mentally ill up & remove all their rights to movement?? You think a bullet is the only weapon a mentally ill person could use??
Same goes for terrorist....Why not maybe also find out what caused all the terrorism....perhaps they were terrorized first?
Snipers who expect to get away?? You talking about the creators of the terrorist?
Truthfully don't know why I even responded to your "How will that" nonsense because How Will it help as you have no point..... or do you actually have a suggestion?
Yes, I have a suggestion; institute the sort of rational gun control we here in the UK and other countries have.
If a mentally ill person, a terrorist, anyone cannot simply buy a gun from a supermarket, then the number of mass shootings will dramatically increase.
Since the controls brought in after the 1987 Hungerford massacre, in the UK we have had just two others; Dunblane in 1996 and Cumbria in 2010.
How many mass shootings have their been in the USA this year so far?
Up to 20th March, 117! Resulting in 113 deaths and several hundreds wounded (Source)
3 mass shootings in 34 years or 117 in just three months! It doesn't take a genius to work out the reason for this discrepancy!
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9 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:
And we FINALLY have a name and photo. Yannick Banduogo, age 28. Contrary to established fact on this website where all terrorists are "angry white men", this one is a black male. Which makes 2/3 recent terror attacks in North America done by non white males.
Named here
Photograph is easily to see by googling his name.
Named after he has been charged. Which rather proves my point.
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9 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:
As well as being irrelevant, your assertion is also factually incorrect. I may not be British but I do pay some attention to events over there. From memory most terror events there were carried out by ISIS affiliated terrorists, such as the Arianne Grande attack and the Parsons Green attack, both by "refugees" - wasn't the Parsons Green bomber also found to have been significantly older than he claimed and nobody cared to check!? - and it took forever for the details to finally be admitted. There was ONE vehicle attack by an ethnic Brit, with a memorable name that made him sound like one of Ozzy Osbournes relations, and the guy was named and photographed within minutes. So, nice try, no sale.
As my post was a direct response to your wondering why the suspect had not been named, it is as relevant as that post.
My post is factually correct, as can be seen from the police guidance. Your long ramble about ISIS terrorist attacks in the UK does not change that.
Regardless of the crime, suspects in the UK, be they ISIS terrorists, NIRA terrorists, Neo-Nazi terrorists, a shoplifter in Tesco and anyone in between, are not named by the police until charged unless, as I said, naming them will aid in their capture or there is some other operational reason for so doing.
However, if the media discover a suspect's name by other means, and publish it, then the guidance says
QuoteIt cannot and does not seek to prevent the media relying on information from sources outside the police in order to confirm identities.
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This is what happened in the case of the Finsbury Park mosque attacker, Darren Osbourne. He was not named by police, he was named by neighbours of his after they saw video and photos of his capture taken by onlookers in the media. The police did not confirm his identity until he was officially charged.
The relevance of this being that, as far as I can discover, similar guidance is extant in many other countries, including Canada. Unless you know differently.
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Looking at the visit visa guidance and Immigration Rules Appendix V: Visitor I'm not so sure that she will be able to extend her visa.
The guidance link under 'Visitor' at Apply for permission to stay in the UK - certain categories only just takes me back to the guidance linked to above, and following the links from "Before you start your application, read the FLR(IR) guidance...." just leads me round in circles!
But have you actually started the application process and so found more information?
Hopefully someone with more knowledge on this will be along now that it's been moved to this forum.
If she is not eligible, then
17 hours ago, Chill27 said:Does anyone know if the British Embassy in Turkey will issue a UK visa for a Thai National.
Only if that person is legally resident in Turkey. UK visas must be applied for in the applicant's country of residence.
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1 hour ago, vogie said:You are being very disingenuous now, you know that a General Election is every 5 years or there-abouts, where-as a referendum is every 75 years. HTH
Which law says that a referendum is every 75 Years?
The only time limit I know of in any UK document is that in the Belfast agreement; and that's a minimum of 7 years.
Hmm...7 years. 2014 + 7 = 2021!
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6 hours ago, Kwasaki said:I don't know I am not a Scot the only Scots I know is one who comes to Thailand and one in UK who is my son in-law who both say they do not want Scotland to leave UK so are you an extremist or what to ask me a question like that of an Englishman.
So because you know two Scots who are unionists you appear to believe that they represent the view of the majority of Scots!
In which case you have nothing to fear from IndyRef2.
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World News closed: Entertainment News still open.
in Forum Support Desk
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The World news forum has been closed from today. Not only to new topics but also for replies to pre-existing ones.
It says here that "primarily it is no longer commercially viable for us to continue buying third party content for the World News forum.
Thaivisa management have decided the cost to maintain World News would be better spent on more Thailand related content, which is what the majority of people visit the website for."
Yet the entertainment news forum remains open. Is the third party content therein free? I doubt it.
Was that forum more popular than World News? Comparing the views and replies the average topic in each received, definitely not.
If money need to be saved, would it not have been better to have closed the little used Entertainment News rather than the far more popular, and so surely higher ad revenues creating, World News?
If ThaiVisa management no longer wanted to pay for World News content, why could the forum not have been left open for members to post free content and comments on same?
What "more Thai related content" will any money saved be spent on?
Will these questions be answered?