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I am planning a two month visit from the UK probably at the end of this year. At the end of the two months I intend to visit either Laos or Vietnam for about a week. Would I then be allowed to enter Thailand again by air and get another 1 month before returning to the UK?
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On 10/14/2021 at 7:25 AM, lyskamm said:
Me and my husband (both Italian) have the same question.
We wish to travel in January and stay for 90 days as tourists .
My question is, if I book a return flight for 90 days, will we be granted a 60 day visa? - or will we have to book a ticket with a return date 60 days, then pay again and change the return ticket date once in Thailand?
Thai Embassy UK. Submitted my visa application for 90 days late Saturday and approved by late Monday night remarkable turnaround. Enclosed airline ticket anticipating return in 90 days and also return date on my on line application 90 days hence. Visa approved for 60 days with of course the option to extend for a further 30 days at the discretion of the immigration officer. My guess is that showing the return ticket and sufficient funds would make that a formality.
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11 hours ago, Beggar said:
Something like this happened to me in Germany at a dentist called very good. Thailand has very good dentists and they do their job for next to nothing. But of course there are bad ones too. I have experienced both here. If you are in Pattaya I can send you a private message with the name of one that never disappointed me in very many years - at least until now... There is never a 100 percent guarantee.
I agree with that, the dentist I have used in Bangkok for many years is top notch the best if I have used. I have recommended him to several visiting friends and all speak very highly of him.
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11 hours ago, DrJack54 said:
The "letter" you refer to is to allow Thai immigration to transfer stamps if required.
For the OP he can reenter los with both pp if in old one he needs show reentry permit or something like a multi entry visa.
You do not need the permission of an embassy to do that and for that matter you never did. It's just another loop to jump through. Just like an embassy is not concerned if you want to open another bank account with a bank you have been a customer with for the past thirty years nor are they interested that you want to renew your Thai driving licence and yet in each case you need to get the embassy to sign a form. As a friend of mine told me who works in the bank when you hand them a form they just throw it in a box and forget about it. Its fortunate that we don't need a TV licence or I am sure the embassy would need to sign a form for that.
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My experience was yes but that was about 3 years ago, presented both passports and he entered the stamp in the new passport. The problem came when I went for my next extension. There I was told that they needed the embassy to complete a form confirming that both passports belonged to the same person or some such nonsense. Of course 3 years is a long time here so god only knows what else they need now.
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Only a few days ago I was walking up the steps to the BTS without a face mask and a young Thai girl was approaching from the opposite direction also without a face mask. When she was only a short distance from me she covered her mouth and nose with a handkerchief. I noticed that all the way down the steps as she approached me she was sliding her hand on the support rail.
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28 minutes ago, TerraplaneGuy said:
So you already got it? And what time did they issue your extension?
I completed the procedure in the morning but I have just checked my policy and in fact it is timed later that day so perhaps in hindsight I was lucky to get out of the building while being in the country uninsured with no medical cover for 4 hours.
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2 hours ago, TerraplaneGuy said:
Welcome to the club. Tell us, when they said come back on the day of your expiry did they say anything about the TIME? As I've mentioned, with me they said they couldn't issue an extension before not only the day but the TIME that the new policy took effect, which is (I am told by Aetna) always, by law, 4:30 PM (check your certificate, you'll see) and therefore means extension is impossible unless they make a special accommodation to work with you past closing time which of course is 4:30 PM. I doubt even the North Koreans could get that stupid.
No thankfully it was just "come back tomorrow."
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11 hours ago, TerraplaneGuy said:Yes, that is exactly what I've been told repeatedly by Immigration escalating up several levels of seniority. Aetna was told the same thing when they inquired. I agree it makes no sense and I'd like to hear from anyone with a Non-OA who has recently extended at CW about their experience. Could it be that not many people have these visas anymore?
I went to CW 1 week before my NON OA extension expired naively thinking that the fact that I had a bank account with considerable more in it for several years than was required by their medical insurance and that I had been doing this for some 15 years would obviate the requirement for an insurance policy that I did not require. Nope bank book not even looked at medical insurance or out. A week later I was back 1 day before my extension expired only to be told that my medical insurance was dated the next day and although everything was in order as the medical insurance commenced on the day my new extension commenced I would have to return the following day to get my extension approved, yep just one day. To add insult to injury I was also told that I would have to update my bank book again the following day and a photocopy. I have decided the hassle isn't worth it anymore and I will return to my home country later this year. The only reason I am staying any longer is that I need to wrap things up and I also have a sea cruise booked in July which all starts and ends in Bangkok.
Last year I was required to produce a drawing locating my condo. No problem I produced my name card with everything in Thai and English and a map on the rear but no they needed me to draw it. I arrived on a new passport a few years ago only to be told by CW that I would need to get the embassy to sign some form before they could put my new extension stamps in the new passport. I go to my bank in which I have held an account for some 20 to 30 years only to be told if I want to open an account I need a form from the embassy which my friend who works in a bank told me they throw in a box. If I want to renew my Thai driving licence I need to go to the embassy for another form for that. This is getting more and more like a bureaucratic North Korea but with a smile.
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That is exactly what happened to me at CW. However my visa extension ran out the following day (I had already been there a week before as I recounted in a previous post and was told I needed medical cover) and as my soon to expire visa extension was granted under the old regulations I naturally assumed that the date I should make the insurance effective from was the date on which my new visa extension started which was the following day. The IO supervisor told me that I should return the following day even though she had confirmed that my insurance policy was valid and had now been registered on their system. Then just for good measure she told me to update my bank book again and photocopy it as that days update and photocopy were no longer valid. As I mentioned before I am using this year to wrap things up and will be departing Thailand this year I see no point in going through that again it isn't worth the hassle. I have always transferred in more than was ever required by their regulations and not only that but had on deposit in a Thai bank sufficient funds that gave me considerable more coverage that was required by their medical insurance requirements but that was dismissed, I was required to buy their expensive insurance or out.
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Two years ago I also had to draw a map at the request of the CW IO. My address is an easy one to find near a very busy sky train station the soi clearly marked off a major road not down some side alley etc. In fact I have taken the trouble of producing a name card in Thai and English for the purpose of deliveries and on the back is a map showing the exact location again in Thai and English which I produced for the IO but that was unacceptable, she needed me to draw it out. At the end of last year I got a further 1 year extension and that experience along with the medical insurance requirement has convinced me not to apply for any further extensions. I have always had more than the required funds to support my visa extension and also an additional fund in a Thai bank to cater for any medical emergencies certainly far more than is required for this medical cover. However this place is getting like a bureaucratic North Korea but with the smile of course.
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43 minutes ago, Bogbrush said:
I am afraid that I neither have the link nor indeed can remember the person who posted the comment; it was an obiter dictum within a fairly long message on the daily site regarding threads on OA extension and insurance and I only picked up on it after a second reading. It is, however, a salient point about which members would be well advised to speak to their insurance companies.
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4 hours ago, berrec said:
Can I ask your age if you do not mind the personal question to get an idea of what this 40K age bracket policy was in
The table of premiums for Pacific Cross has already been posted and the Standard Extra Plus Plan cost for my age group is 77,473 baht this can be reduced below 40K as long as you are prepared to accept the first 300K In patient and 30K outpatient costs which I did reducing the premium I paid to below 40K. Hope that helps.
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3 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:I really feel for you, but I wonder why you did choose the bumpy road to buy the thai health-insurance coverage.
You write that you did follow the discussions on the TV Forum, so I assume that you were aware that there was also the option to convert your OA - retirement Visa to an O - retirement Visa.
Yes, that would have meant making a trip abroad, return Visa exempt and apply for a 90-day Non Imm O - retirement Visa at your local IO, and in the last month of that 90-day Visa, apply for a 1 year extension of stay of that Non Imm O - retirement Visa. The requirements for that last step are identical with the failed extension you did now, but with the difference that NO health-insurance would be required.
Were their particular reasons why you did not consider that option?
I got the impression from TV posts that it's only a matter of time that the alternative options would be subject to the same requirements. Then there is the age barrier and there must come a time when I will be unable to get medical over or that it would become so expensive as to make it not worth considering. Hence my decision to leave while I am able to make the transition.
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18 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:I appreciate your feelings.
For the benefit of others would you mind disclosing which Insurance company, contact details, age and how much.
The Insurance Company I used was Pacific Cross which is on the approved list. It cost me just under 40K.
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8 minutes ago, Martyp said:
You have been self insuring for years but You didn’t mention how long you have known about the new insurance requirements before going to CW. Was the need for insurance this year a complete surprise?
Also, note that you can apply for an extension 45 days early at CW. Best not to wait until the last minute so you will have plenty of time to deal with unexpected problems.
No it wasn't a complete surprise I have been following the discussion but I naively thought that having sufficient funds that more than cover the medical cover they require would be okay. As for the 45 days I was unaware of that.
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I made my annual visit to CW a few weeks ago to renew my Retirement Non O-A extension along with the ME, forms TM7 & 8. I usually go around 10 days before the expiry date. Now I have always been aware that with old age medical coverage would be required and to that end over the years I have set money aside for what I refer to as my medical fund. In fact I would have no difficulty buying a condo with what I have set aside. However when I got to see the officer I was told that it was medical coverage or out. She wouldn’t even look at my bank book which was quite independent of the funds I use to support my extension.
I then had just over a week to arrange medical insurance which at my age I thought would be impossible but I managed to do so. The whole thing was a rush with a full medical required and I only received confirmation from the approved Thai insurance company two days before my expiry date. They were unable to supply me with the policy document in time for my visit to CW but nevertheless I thought that the acceptance letter would be sufficient, needless to say I was mistaken.
The IO Supervisor got me to ring the insurance company who then emailed the document 11 pages which I presented back to the officer. Another 30 minutes passed and then I was told that the policy was still not valid as it had not been entered onto the Immigration database. That was another phone call to the insurance company who then confirmed some time later that this had now been done. Lunch passed and around 1-30 pm I was called back in to be told that my medical insurance was now valid and that as it was effective the following day which was the expiry date of my visa and that I should return the following day to complete my application for an extension., further adding that I should update my bank book as that days update was no longer acceptable along with another photo copy.
The following day I was back again with all the photo copies etc. Now I have to say that the IO must have looked at my previous extension stamp photocopies at least a dozen times as if she expected them to change. The procedure appears to be that the IO scans your passport then makes an entry on the computer which generates a serial number which is then inserted on the new stamp in your passport. So presumably all of my previous applications have a similar number which is stored on their computer and yet there is this obsession almost with providing photocopies of each and every stamp.
In recent years I have taken to using my own bag whenever I go to the supermarket and even small reusable bags to contain the individual items in order to stop using plastic. However, given that this one government department must be responsible for the disappearance of at least one rain forest I don’t see why I bother.
The next visit was to the ME desk which in recent years requires a photocopy of the stamp their own department has just put in your passport.
My initial visit and the rejection because of no medical insurance and the difficulty of obtaining such at my age suggested that I had just over a week to arrange my affairs before having to depart. Now I have another year and I will use that to put my affairs in order and then return to my own country and I have already started this process. Whether I could obtain another extension is unimportant as sooner rather than later I would pass that threshold at which I could get medical insurance and then it would be even more difficult for me to arrange an orderly departure and resettlement in my own country. The thought of making any more visits to CW just fills me with dread. I feel that in their quest to rid Thailand of people who cannot pay their medical bills that they will also succeed in driving out many who can and do pay their bills and that have been a financial asset, albeit a modest one to their country.
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On 10/23/2019 at 8:16 AM, keithet said:
No nothing has changed in the last 2 years
I too had a rejection on Friday. No problem with previous 90 day reports. Still well within my reporting period I think about 12 more days to go. No reason given and all my details appear correct.
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8 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:
It can be done at any border crossing.
No problem at all at Nong Khai to do it.
Many thanks for that
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1 minute ago, lopburi3 said:
Such visas have a one year validity so some use for almost 15 months in Thailand - when you say six months you must mean he only wants to stay for part of the year?
Yes that is his normal routine avoiding the cold in Germany. He will return to Germany sometime in April and then returns again in October having obtained a new visa.
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My German friend obtained a Multiple Entry Non Immigrant O Visa at the Berlin Embassy and is approaching the 3 months when he must leave Thailand and then re-enter. Is there any restriction as to what border entry he can use e.g Nong Khai seems to be the most convenient for him at the moment. He has been using this type of visa for several years and it allows him to stay in Thailand up to 6 months so long as he leaves at least once at the 3 month point. However he is a little concerned that the regulations may have changed.
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I have a Thai and English will with the instruction that should I die while back in the UK that a death certificate is forwarded to my Thai lawyer. Will that death certificate need to be certified by the British embassy before it can be used here? I met with the example last year where I arrived on a new passport along with my old passport and my retirement extension stamp. When I went to Chaeng Wattena they told me that I needed to get the new passport certified by the British embassy each time it seems you do something now new bank account, new passport, driving licence the British embassy exact a fee for doing almost nothing.
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2 minutes ago, AYJAYDEE said:
what kind of visa is a 6 month visa?
From what I understand it was one that required he leave Thailand before the end of three months and on his return got another 3 months automatically. The 6 month was obtainable at the consulate in Munich but must now be obtained from the embassy in Berlin. To obtain the 6 month visa he had to produce the usual bank statements in Munich to show he could support his stay of 6 months. Due to time constraints he settled for the 3 month NON IMM hoping that he could then extend it by another 3 months when he was here in Thailand with a visit to Vientiane. I gather that his best option is to obtain a two month tourist visa in Vientiane when his present 3 month NON IMM expires in January and then apply to the immigration office in Bangkok for the extra 30 days which will take him into April which is when he normally returns to Germany.
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2 hours ago, JackThompson said:
What qualification did he use to get the Non-Imm Visa? Retired? Married to a Thai? There are options at either an immigration-office in Thailand, or a neighboring nation's Thai consulate. The qualification-requirements depend on how he qualifies for this type of visa.
He could also do as others have suggested (without needing to show Non-Imm related qualifications) and get a 60-day Tourist Visa nearby, then extend that for 30-days more in-country.
He is retired late seventies and in Germany always has to produce a bank statement. Normally he applies and gets a 6 month visa but this time the Thai consulate in Munich advised him that this was only available from the embassy in Berlin so he settled for the three months and now wishes to have another three months before returning to Munich in April.
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I am a UK retired passport holder resident in the UK. I plan to visit Thailand, remaining for 60days then depart to Vietnam for 1 week after which I will return to Thailand for a further 30 days before returning to the UK. I have private accomodation in Thailand belonging to a friend at which I will be staying while I am there. Could you advise what type of visa I can apply for on line. The Tourist Visa (STV) seems still to require booking ASQ hotels.