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On 20 July 2016 at 1:46 PM, mania said:
You all need to get out & about more
Thailand has become very coffee sophisticated
You can get everything here AA Kenyan, Colombian, Ethiopian, Brazilian, Guatemalan
you name it its here fresh roasted here & often light roasted to boot
Then the Thai beans themselves have come so far so fast
The farmers are learning & applying things like how they process which now included honey process,natural,dry & washed
I predict it will not be but a few years until we see Thai coffee being exported world wide
It is in fact starting already with many US & Euro roasters buying micro lots
Following your suggestion that we all need to get out & about more, I had coffee at St Eustachio 'Il Caffe' today, which has reminded me exactly how poor a misrepresentation of Coffee anything available in Thailand is.
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38 minutes ago, Scotwight said:
What you missed --- The OP wrote, "I feel really uncomfortable here now, unwelcome and unwanted by the current government as it gets more and more restrictive, oppressive and appears to bring in new legislation and requirements, almost on a daily basis, that makes life here untenable for me."
When asked what was getting more restrictive and oppressive to make it untenable for him - he couldn't come up with any.
The OP also asked, "Is anyone else feeling this kind of pressure?" So I guess his requests would suppose one lived in Thailand and was a mind reader - because he never said specifically what kind of pressure.
Feel free to ask anytime else but you could read the OP if you have any further questions.
I was responding to SoiBiker who said:
QuoteIf it's not working out for whatever reason, better to leave and be happier elsewhere than to stay here and moan about it.
And I read the DennisF's OP, he is, for whatever reason, leaving to be happier elsewhere rather than staying in Thailand to moan about it.
Once again, unless I missed something ... he is doing exactly as SoiBiker suggests.
If DennisF is not doing as you want him to, that's another matter.
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30 minutes ago, SoiBiker said:
If it's not working out for whatever reason, better to leave and be happier elsewhere than to stay here and moan about it.
Which is what the OP is doing... or did I miss something?
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37 minutes ago, SoiBiker said:
A balance of good and bad would be nice. Sadly, the relentless negativity tends to drown out anything else.
I have to agree with you on this. The OP has been treated to a barrage of negativity and personal abuse for simply stating that he's leaving Thailand for his own personal reasons.
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2 minutes ago, SoiBiker said:
I love it here, and I'm very happy with my choice to live here. But I still reserve my right to bemoan the fact that the most prominent online forum for those of us who live here is dominated by whiny miserable types who moved here for all the wrong reasons and then either lack the nous to get out, or do so but then spend years coming back to the forum and running the place down in some weird attempt to justify their decision.
Thailand is an awesome place to be, and this forum ought to be a celebration of that fact. Sadly, most of the time its anything but.
Putting aside your conclusions of the how/why these 'whiney miserable types' moved to Thailand and whether or not your assertion that they lack 'nous' as purely supposition on your own part, your claim that these people 'dominate' this forum doesn't stand scrutiny.
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13 hours ago, Berkshire said:
It's not a rule, but more like common sense. Why would someone who's not even in Thailand anymore, who claims to hate Thailand and wants nothing more to do with Thailand, yet, continues to post relentlessly on Thai web forums? Sort of goes to motive and intent...don't you think?
I can think of lots of reason why people who are not in Thailand might wish to continue posting on Thabased web forums. As many reasons as anyone might have who has lived in Thailand for a long time, intends to live/retire to Thailand, lives in Thailand part time, lives in Thailand most of the time but elsewhere part time, has a wife/girlfriend/family in Thailand - the permutations are near limitless.
What I can't recall are these individuals you frequently refer to in your claims of 'hating Thailand', or variations along the theme of 'Thai haters/bashers'.
We've discussed the point very many times Berkshire.
Its all part of human nature.
When people are genuinely happy with the choices they have made, nobody else's opinions on those choices matter a jot. Though when people make a poor choice, or know on some level that the choice they made is not as good as they are telling themselves - then they do get upset when others criticise their choice.
Be happy with the choices you have made and don't let the views of others on your choice spoil your day.
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3 minutes ago, MissAndry said:
I never post on this site when I'm out of Thailand, seems a bit sad and pointless. But that's just me.
I seldom post when I'm in Thailand.
I'm usually far to busy enjoying being in Thailand to waist time posting.
I'm currently in the departure lounge at Dubai imagining the 'sad and pointlessness' of life in Thailand if one can forgoe the pleasures of being there to spend all day telling others what opinions are acceptable.... Or of course that other staple 'moaning about migrants to your own country'.
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8 hours ago, SoiBiker said:
I'll hazard one.
If you left long ago, why keep posting here?
Also, why did you use the word 'here' to describe a place you're not in?
I'm not in Thailand. Can I please have your permission to post?
I'm going to fly to another country on Sunday, also not Thailand, do I need to ask your permission to post from there?
Do I need to ask permission from all members to post when I'm not in Thailand?
Is there a rule that says only people in Thailand are allowed to post?
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It's not all bad news.
I can see very many possitives; Thai people have become confident in their own abilities, less deferential (certainly less deferential to westerners who can no longer expect deference). Thai people questioning authority, especially some of the very vociferous online debates.
As for all these claims of 'Westernisation' - don't let your own self loathing give Thai people an easy excuse. The 'westernisation' in Thailand is entirely home grown. Greed, the easy Bhat and the dream of owimporting a franchise. They fid all this to themselves.
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DennisF,
you've suggested something very unpalatable to a handful of the respondants to your thread - that everything is not rosey in Thailand and that not only could you be happier somewhere else but that you are willing and able to make the move.
Is a suggestion that has really wound a few up.
You are a psychologist, you can work it out.
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19 hours ago, Scotwight said:
So stated in terms a normal person can understand...... Nothing specifically wrong - nothing happened to you - you are just whinging. An example. A representative of the new government has done something negative and tangible to you. Thinking something intangible is tangible is whinging.
What has the current government done to effect the attitude of Thai people toward you? Remember something tangible. Tangible = physical. Intangible = feelings, abstract.
I'm a psychologist too. Whenever I get depressed I stop reading Thai Visa for a couple of days and I'm fine. Maybe you should try it.
It seems you should take your own advice.
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50 years old!
Bht 16million will probably give him, and whoever he finds to help him spend it, 4 good years together, follwed by 12-18 bad months together, and futher 6-12 months of him wondering what went wrong, were the money went while he plucks up the courage to go back home.
Arriving home at age 55-56 years old, no cash and 5 or 6 years out of the job market.
If he's lucky without kids to take care of.
On the otherhand, he could invest now, continue working, enjoy great holidays and an early 'sustainable' retirement in 7 or 8 tears time.
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3 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:
I see about one out of a thousand that looks good and improved someone's appearance and that is when they are young and fit. The rest just look tacky or worse. I do not understand why people do that to themselves.
Because they don't understand T-Shirts.
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1 hour ago, louse1953 said:
If you say hullo to me because i have a white face you are a racist.
Perhaps I simply say hello to the person who walks into the line at the coffee shop counter, regardless or the colour of their face.
Sort of like common good manners.
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Its a mobile phone services cell tower. If you go look a bit closer there's be a containerised transmission equipment building near the base, the name of the service provider will be on the side of the container.
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1 minute ago, Johnniey said:
Why the hell should I say hello to some old farang who is still on his pink cloud after being here 2 year, with a wife who looks like she used to work in Khon Kaen fish market?
Just because he has the same skin colour as I? he could be a Yank or German for all I know.
You seem to have someone particular in mind.
Remember what it is we all hate the most.
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I, and I am sure many others, have come across the same miserable faces from expats in response to a civil greeting (in Thailand).
I think its worth making a comparison. I've often met westerners in other non-western parts of the world, by example the middle east, where similar civil greetings are very seldom met with the miserable face so often seen in Thailand.
I put it down to the fact that a lot of misfits wash up in Thailand, but don't regard their grumpy response in an entirely negative light - they are at least giving the rest of use clear notice that they are not likely to be good company.
And as a friend of mine who lives in a part of Thailand with very few foreigners remarks, he sees no reason to lower the standards of the company he keeps just because there's not a lot of company about.
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I suggest sitting in on a Condominium AGM in which most of the participants are 'Farangs' before you launch your idea of a 'Farang Moo Baarn'.
You'll find the lack of cooperation, back stabbing, bickering, crabs-in-a-bucket mindset and extremes of penny-pinching tightfistedness instructive.
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In all fairness, I expect the growth in numbers (within the database) over the period is due more to the ease of obtaining current reports.
Going foward the dataset is likely to become more consistant.
I think the database has the potential to become a very useful resource fir the analysis of the safety of foteigners in Thailand.
Odd some take such exception to it?!
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In the case you refered to, it has been discovered that he was killed by his Thai neighbor because he slandered and insulted his Thai neighbor's family on a number of public occasions.
It could have happened anywhere in the world.
Again. But, in 'any other country in the world' the perpetrator would have been found and brought to justice. Name just ONE case where any farang murdered by a Thai has seen any justice here? Just ONE. Christ ..
Pattaya double murder of two female tourists: death penalty
Koh Tao murders: death penalty
Hua Hin Songkran gang assault of elderly British tourists: 2 years in prison
Farang-deaths.com shows the following homicide case count by year:
2013 (2)
2014 (4) (including two Koh Tao murders)
2015 (6)
2016 YTD (11)
Note that farang-deaths.com lists homicides for all nationalities, not just Westerners. Burmese, Chinese, Kuwaitis, etc. are included in these numbers. The website has a disclaimer that their database is not complete, but the idea that foreigners are being murdered here left and right is inaccurate.
1. You seemed to have missed the word 'justice', it is difficult to describe the death sentence handed to the two Burmese men on Kho Tao as justice for the two murder victims.
2. Farang-Deaths.com clearly state their database is incomplete (incompleteness does not imply inaccuracy), they nowhere claim that foreigners are being murdered 'left and right', but they are providing a database of foreign deaths in Thailand, something that hitherto has not been available.
I take it you have no problem with farang-deaths.com recording and providing this data.
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Your teacher clearly arrived with an expectation of how she should present the lessons, this is almost certainly set by her employer. You've asked for a different lesson plan for which your teacher is not prepared, there is an expectation gap between you and your teacher.
You don't need to complain, you simply need to fix the expectation gap.
If its a possibility, go speak with the expat manager, explain what you are looking for (your expectation) and see what he can do to meet it.
Making a complaint to the teacher or about the teacher will not get you the result you want - lessons that meet your expectation.
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If on the other hand you feel like you simply want to complain and get it all off your chest, feel free to do so. But then go find another language school.
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Sorry, no. Statistically this means nothing without the relevant, here missing, data.
Kannot's assumption that in a country with four times the murder rate, an individual has four times the probability of being murdered is a perfectly reasonable assumption, any challenge to that assumption requires more detailed data than the headline murder rate, for which I once again refer you to the website provided by the OP.
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No, it's more rubbish because, as he himself notes, it's impossible to extrapolate how many of that 609 were foreigners.
Given that the discussion at hand is how much more likely a foreigner is to meet a sticky end in Thailand, his point is rubbish
id say its pretty easy to see the chances of getting killed in one country against the other if one has 609 deaths and the other 4 times the amount regardless of foreigners or not.............
In the absence of data on the nationality of the victim, the assumption made by Kannot is statistically reasonable. To demonstrate his assumption is wrong requires data (not gut feeling, belief or the all too uncommon 'common sense').
Returning to the OP that started this thread we find s/he provide us with a link to a register of 'Farang Deaths' in Thailand which records deaths by violence, murder, falls from height, road accidents &c., and references to the deaths that may be independently checked.
This is exactly the kind of data that can demonstrate if Thailand is or is not a high risk country for 'Farangs'.
Its rather odd then how so many people take exception to the data being provided by the website the OP references.
Whichever side of the argument 'Thailand dangerous/Thailand safe' you are on, the data provided by the website is exactly what you need to demonstrate your point.
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I'll look out for Gardelli, though I think one of the most important ingrediants is not being discussed - Water.
The water supplied to St Eustachio (and the pantheon area of Rome) is of especially high quality - better in my opinion than many bottled mineral waters.
Finding good quality water in Thailand is not easy, and I've carted water from all parts of Thailand to make coffee with. In the end I resort to Montclair, not perfect but I doubt many Baristars in Thailand give much thought to the water they use.
I remain too to be convinced that Thai coffee beans are themselves of any notable quality. The variation between national sources is well known and to be fair Thailand is competing against nations with centuries of experience and coffee culture.
Then of course there is the roasting.
I recently bought a range of coffees from Artisan Roast in Edinburgh, their "Primavera Colombia" was outstanding, but unfortunately only available as a one off production - underscoring the very distinctive differences between coffees.