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  1. mmmh ok, sorry i am not familiar with the subject, i was thinking that admitting a similar situation would constitute a self-willing disclosure that will enable the court to prosecute you for, right away, i am glad if this suspect it's wrong laugh.png

  2. Thanks again, this law really give no dignity to human beings....

    2 more questions then arise, i mean, if you are obliged to proof than one or the other is at "fault" , wouldn't this automatically open up a new ground for the claim of some damages????

    And if the apparently mild option of just saying, the two parts haven't been living together for at least 1 year (i think to remember this was the minimum time required), wouldn't then the foreigner be prosecute if it's current permit to stay was based on marriage (where the 2 spouse have to live together)???

  3. Just as a general information for which some members can benefit from, during my search, for what it concerns the current italian law, the italian citizen will be in a more favourable position, for which the (italian's)law can give access to some "shortcuts" (not allowed otherways), if the divorce request it's being submitted by the foreigner(thai).

    In some other places, then i read that in front of the thais, the advantaged part will be the one that do the request for a divorce (but i can't confirm on this, maybe true, maybe not).

    I hope there is a way to make the court chop chop a bit, as i already have people lining up for the soon to be (hopefuly) vacant place, and made my choice after some very deep-in investigations....

  4. Thanks for the answer.

    So a court will not grant a divorce if at least one of the 2 parts is at "fault" somewhere??

    There is really no way to avoid to put down one of the 2 and getting divorced in a decent way, lets say, "...both parts have decided that was better to follow different lifes.." ?

    As for the "cost" involved, the only coincise answer i could find searching the forum, is one person that apparently spent £ 100, that doesn't seems to be much (

    I have 2 divorces under my belt, on both ocassions it cost me only the court fees for the decrees £100,

    ) here: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/555582-divorce-agreement-lawyer-advice-needed/
  5. As some country do not legitimate the divorce obtained at the amphurs and also require the court's rule to state exactly some very specific written words on the outcome(at least for Italy), i was wondering if there is an easy way to get everything as quick and smooth as possible, as both parts are willing to agree in a friendly and quick divorce, but on the various forum threads, i can only find the court's ruling way applied to divorces where one of the 2 parts is either unrecheable or unwilling to accept the other part decision.

    I attached the statements(see the english text in bold) currently required by the italian's law (original source: italian consulate in Bangkok).

    Thanks.

    AMBASCIATA D’ITALIA BANGKOK

    ANNUNCIO AL PUBBLICO

    Art. 64, Legge 31 maggio 1995, n. 218.

    Riconoscimento/Trascrizione di sentenze straniere in Italia

    1. Per la richiesta della trascrizione di una sentenza di divorzio al Comune italiano competente, ai sensi del nostro ordinamento, la sentenza deve essere rilasciata dall’Autorita’ giudiziaria Tailandese competente (Tribunale). L’atto di divorzio rilasciato dall’Autorita’ amministrativa (Comune), non e’ conforme a quanto stabilito dalla normativa di cui all’Art. 64, Legge 31 maggio 1995, n. 218.

    2. Il giudice locale deve precisare nella sentenza in parola i sotto indicati punti:

    A) La Sentenza e’ passata in giudicato secondo la legge locale e non e’ piu’ soggetta a impugnazione;

    The sentence has become definitive according to the local law and is no longer subject to appeal;

    หนังสือรับรองคดีฝ/คำพิพากษา/คำสั่งศาล เป็นที่สิ้นสุดตามกฏหมายท้องถิ่นของประเทศนั้นๆ (ไทย) และไม่สามารถอุทธรณ์ ฎีกาได้อีก

    B) L’atto introduttivo del giudizio e’ stato portato a conoscenza del convenuto in conformità a quanto previsto dalla legge del luogo dove si e’ svolto il processo e non sono stati violati i diritti essenziali della difesa;

    The judicial filing of the case has been notified to the defendant according to the law of the country where the trail took place and no essential right for defense has been violated;

    ได้มีการแจ้งให้คู่ความหรือจำเลยรับทราบแล้วถึงคำฟ้องคดีต่อศาลตามกฏหมาย ของประเทศที่ได้มีการยื่นฟ้องคดี (ตามกฏหมายไทย) และไม่มีการละเมิดสิทธิขั้นพื้นฐานในการต่อสู้ทางคดี

    C) Le parti si sono costituite in giudizio secondo la legge del luogo dove si e’ svolto il processo o la contumacia e’ stata dichiarata in conformità a tale legge;

    The parties are present at the hearings, according to the law of the country where the trail took place or the absence was declared in conformity with that law;

    คู่ความได้มาปรากฏตัวในการพิจารณาคดีของศาล ตามกฏหมายของประเทศที่มีการพิจารณาคดี(ประเทศไทย) หรือได้มีการแจ้งถึงการไม่มาปรากฏตัวในศาลตามกฏหมายแล้ว

    D) Essa non e’ contraria ad altra sentenza pronunziata da un giudice italiano passata in giudicato;

    E) Non pende un processo davanti a un giudice italiano per il medesimo oggetto e fra le stesse parti, che abbia avuto inizio prima del processo straniero;

    F) Richiesta di trascrizione della sentenza straniera di divorzio, ai sensi della legge 218/1995 firmata dal cittadino italiano.

    3. Per quanto riguarda le lettere D/E/F e’ disponibile presso la Sezione Consolare di questa Ambasciata la Dichiarazione Sostitutiva di Atto di Notorietà, da essere compilata e firmata a cura del connazionale.

  6. Hi,

    today i did saw one of those electric fence for sale, but the only thing i could read on it was 12V DC 220V AC and then pictures of cattles all over the box, so, clearly one of those devices they use to keep their calves delimited to a particular area.

    I am wondering if the "shock" coming out of it, would be enough to keep "humans" away from it, or if it's so weak that someone could actually grab the wires and just trespass it as a minor annoyance.

    An alternative to this little device could be connecting the metal's spicky wires directly to my live ac wire or, repurpose my electrode's welding machine, obviously in this last 2 cases, the power would be switched on only when an intruder is trying to made his way in, by a little hand operated switch....any thoughts?

    Thanks smile.png

  7. Of course you don't care ! lol Because if you did you would have to recognise that people don't take a piss on other peoples lawns for no reason !

    Mine bring me strange deserts , soups, and gifts from vacations.

    RealDeal now you don't make sense at all, i mean, before you just showed up to what "group" you belong to, now you say that i don't care, when in fact by giving you a chance to explain yourself i am doing the exact opposite of what you said.

    Again you insinuates that i believe that this guy did what he did for "no reason" , when i did already explain the reasons before, ohh dear, are you drunk or are you like this all the times???

    Did you intentionally swap the word "scams" or "theft" with "vacations" ????

    Next time you could just use "real deals" for that cheesy.gif

  8. Didn't i already made (very) clear on my post #136 and #138 of what i think of you and anybody else that shares similar thoughts?

    And as you seem to be so sure that i am the one in the wrong, why don't you then also point out at what exactly it is wrong for you, so we can have another laugh??

    Are you too busy with your "real deals" to elaborates further? i can imagine what they are all about....laugh.png

  9. because of your failure to integrate.

    What can i add? I am proud to failing to accept crimes and become part of it, being the prospective victim thai or foreigner, now and everydays, shame on you!

    I hope one day you will be failing to as i do, remember, it's never too late..

  10. Is the OP really such an ass or is this just some type of weird joke I've stumbled across?

    If it is real, then the fact that this has turned into a 6 page diatribe against all Thais simply because a neighbour pee'd on your lawn already shows the type of person you are. I'm guessing you are old, cynical and paranoid, and because of your partner you have built quite a lavish house in an Isaan village somewhere because it is a cheaper place to live but you have not tried or been able to fit in with any of your new neighbours so you've willingly outcast yourself and talk bad about everyone around you, and yet you still wonder why people make a pilgrimage to come from their homes to piss all over yours, and you are asking us why this could possible be??

    I also just built a house in an Isaan village and live here full time but I'm young and easy going, I try to talk as much Thai and Isaan as I can, and I socialise and help out my neighbours and family here whenever I can. For the record nobody has come and pee'd on my lawn or tried to scam, rob or fight me, in fact quite the opposite as people have been very generous, helpful and caring, so you must be doing something wrong.

    There are a couple of miserable old hermit farangs in this village who have never uttered a word to me in 2 years but it just amuses me that people make an effort to be so anti-social.

    So where is it you live? It would be pretty funny if it turns out you are one of the miserable farangs in my village!

    Move to a friendlier place in Thailand if it bothers you so much, but try not to be yourself as much as possible. smile.png

    KunMatt, that's a very stupid reply from you, there is so much wrong stuff on it that i don't know from where to begin.....anyway, i will give it a try.

    First of all, age is not a factor you should consider to judge if someone is right or wrong, you seems to believe that if a person is old, that makes him automatically wrong, just because as you wrote "but I'm young and easy going" that is not a factor that has helped you much in being wiser, hopefully with the time passing by, you will be able to see it, but (very) sadly i see many that despite all their "experience" are still falling into the same mistakes a young man as you does.....

    If you have a family, you stay in your home, with your wife, kids, grandmother, grandogs and whoever else, normally, you would like to spare them the view of a fully growed up man that willingly trespass your property in an aggressive fashion, and then stop in plain view of everyone with the clear intention to show you his little dick.

    The before this sev/wage started his show, we had a few words, firstly i ask what did he want and i made him aware that he was in my property, he replied with some grunts and a facial expression that resemble that of a gorilla wanting to engage in a fight.

    As soon as he showed his intention to wanting to relieve himself, i politely offered him to use my toilette, but he still muttered something in thai and still showed the same attitude, when i say that there are people looking at him and he should not do that as it was not educated, he said to "call the police!".

    This man was not drunk or under drugs, as i mentioned already, this is a provocation probably part of a plan to start something bigger, if you read the news or heard of what these people talk between them, you will understand why in this country there are so many foreigners falling victims of robbery,scams,murdered, etc..

    Then you wrote "but you have not tried or been able to fit in with any of your new neighbours so you've willingly outcast yourself and talk bad about everyone around you", you are wrong again, i am a very friendly person and fit in easily too, but the point is, if someone try to blatantly play obvious cheats or start stealing from me, i will not let them do that, what is wrong in this? have you lost your head? it's more a case of them outcasting theirselfs with their beauvoir.

    It's a fact that unfortunately, there are around very miserable and disgusting individuals, i mean westerners , that in a desperate and pathetic attempt to show how well they fit in with this glorification of crime they see all around, they will do the worst actions a person could possibly do, these people have no conscience, they are famous for their con-science instead, as they made of conning their own people and others a way of life, ready to deny any evidences of what is obvious to everyone to the point to make them look ridicolous, and carry on with their low lifes, i seriously hope that Thailand will find a way to kick away or at least put these criminals in the place they deserve and save the rest of the population, residents and tourists.

  11. A hose pipe and sprinkler system in your garden..... when you see uninvited guests walk onto your property its time to water the plants yourself.

    I thought about this! then i remembered of where i am located and realize that what it can work in a certain environment it can also go against you in a different setup.

    I mean, i am sure they will use it at their own advantage, and as soon as the word spread across the village i would have the entire population coming to have a free shower to save on their water's bill, just give it a try and you will see thumbsup.gif

  12. you have offended someone. these things dont go this sideways over nothing

    You are right here, i am fairly convinced that the fact that i am not allowing the locals to help themself free with my belonging, cause lots of resentments, as this is not what they would expect to happen from a foreigner.

    You could resume their way to see things with the old say "What is yours is mine and what is mine is mine"....Tit

  13. This thread could have been much funnier, I agree lets close it down.

    Agree, but the request has been ignored, despite changing the words from my mouth without even asking and by doing so, even the meanings....that's what prompted me to ask for a closure, you have no chances to give your reasons

    move to bkk or pattaya ,you will still be under scrutiny ,but it will be a bit more "diluted" because at the moment ,its You against the entire village

    Your never going to win this situation .......

    It's not that dramatic yet, i mean, usually everyone mind his own business or better to say, they are having some lazy time around and thinks about how to enjoy theirselfes, someone even works, but with the passion we all knows at their own peace.

    Then something must trigger something into their mind and start thinking about some fabulous trick to get rich quick and without much effort, however, they are too lazy to carry on with their plan and let it go, that's the impression i have, not that they are trying to hard to hide it, there have been occasions where a neighbour would openly taunt passer by on the street to come into my property and telling them they were too afraid to try, some other times they would whisper to each others but not as much to not to hear them, you would not believe me, but right now by reading what i just wrote i would think this is insane, but it's the bare truth! what the heck should i do? go and hide it for the sake of the western and thai glory???? This is part of our world, people, and you should be ready to deal with it if you are confronted, do not escape as then you will make all of us look as an easy prey, make sure that they would struggle as much as possible if you have to fight for your life, surely you will not win against 10 men, but by giving them a hard time, you might contribute to save other people's lifes and attract some deserved attention on these many unwilling suicides and the criminals that are covering them up...

  14. This thread could have been much funnier, I agree lets close it down.

    Agree, but the request has been ignored, despite changing the words from my mouth without even asking and by doing so, even the meanings....that's what prompted me to ask for a closure, you have no chances to give your reasons

  15. This sounds like its going to end in tears ,i would pack my shit and get outta there

    If the whole village is against you ,YOU should move

    if they are trying to provoke a reaction out of you on your own property its going to end in violence

    sooner or later

    A meter of heavy chain would also solve the problem ,but you may have to pay the medical expenses

    or even stay in jail a few nights so best not to resort to weapons unless defending yourself from immediate attack

    Yes i am aware of the risks, thanks, but the point is that we are not all tourists with a backpack already on, as very likely Bendix is, and leave everything behind, sometime we have to stand our grounds

  16. Everytime the OP refers to Thais as 'the natives' a part of me cringes and feels ashamed to be white and living in this wonderful welcoming country where we get away with so much.

    Hardly suprising considering the number of old colonial wannabees who live in Thailand

    I heard there is a proposal on national level to swap the bum's spray hose of every single thai toilette with a foreigner volounteer with smooth tongues....rumours, just rumours cheesy.gif

  17. Yes Besth, the voice of conscience, or the disgracefull lack of it in many souls nowadays.

    With that been said, i would like this topic to be closed as i have just been put in a position in which a free exchange of opinions can't be made and even more, but we can't discuss it, so, don't make sense to continue, thanks all for partecipating, whatever your ideas were....

    A pathetic attempt to hide away from yourself.

    You want a free exchange of opinions - you have them. You just dont like what you're hearing because it doesnt fit your little-England, kleine Deutsche, petit Francais mentality that you are naturally better than the natives.

    And yet . . and yet . . your entire posting history is about your problems with Thais.

    So where does the problem lie - with you, or with them?

    Bendix you retardo of a poster, i guess that by your choice to use a dictator as your avatar i couldn't expect any better from you.

    It's because here "some" of the moderators is bending the rules as they please, by modify my post and cancelling my response, what kind of conversation you would like to have on these conditions??? silly man

    I guess this would prompt a quicker action, any bets on it?

  18. Yes Besth, the voice of conscience, or the disgracefull lack of it in many souls nowadays.

    With that been said, i would like this topic to be closed as i have just been put in a position in which a free exchange of opinions can't be made and even more, but we can't discuss it, so, don't make sense to continue, thanks all for partecipating, whatever your ideas were....

    A pathetic attempt to hide away from yourself.

    You want a free exchange of opinions - you have them. You just dont like what you're hearing because it doesnt fit your little-England, kleine Deutsche, petit Francais mentality that you are naturally better than the natives.

    And yet . . and yet . . your entire posting history is about your problems with Thais.

    So where does the problem lie - with you, or with them?

    Bendix you retardo of a poster, i guess that by your choice to use a dictator as your avatar i couldn't expect any better from you.

    It's because here "some" of the moderators is bending the rules as they please, by modify my post and cancelling my response, what kind of conversation you would like to have on these conditions??? silly man

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  19. Yes Besth, the voice of conscience, or the disgracefull lack of it in many souls nowadays.

    With that been said, i would like this topic to be closed as i have just been put in a position in which a free exchange of opinions can't be made and even more, but we can't discuss it, so, don't make sense to continue, thanks all for partecipating, whatever your ideas were....

  20. You did well Bonobo, i just wish there was more people as you.

    That goes against the belief of some of the honorable members here, that very firmly think that we should adopt the same choices the locals do because we are "guests" here....

    Nevermind if there is a reported risk of running straight into a scam, there are ways to fight that and leaving someone that might die and possibly cause even more casualties on the road is certainly an heavier bargain to carry it with you.

    Personally i even stop and try to rescue if i see an injuried pet, as i know if i don't do it, that remorse could just come and haunt me for the rest of my life, so it doesn't takes me much time to see which is the best way to go for...

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  21. To whom is asking for pic/video, there was a picture of this beauty posted originally, but has been removed because apparently it's not allowed, but i can guarantee you, that if you had just a quick look at it, you wouldn't want to see any further....

    Obviously i can't be sure about each one's personal preferences, however, i guess statistics will prove me right on this.

    There is a CCTV footage but it hasn't been uploaded to the net, all in all, it's less than 2 minutes long.

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