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  1. Define failed expat JT.

    Ones that have settled down, got married and now have families and careers here as opposed that roll around on baht buses looking for the next great topic to post on TV haha.

    Only one more day till your crowning moment - got your speech written yet?

    Well, there's 'failed' expats and then there are mugs. The ones that are 'failed' have just woken up a bit if you ask me.

  2. There two side of it ,good and bad

    1) Farang husband meaning she lives a comfortable life and beautiful babies.

    That's open to debate, especially given some of the pictures floating about.

    2) The bad side is people might think she is working in bars even if she not if she walking with a farang.

    True

    Nowdays many city girls would like to have farang husband because they are more responsible and caring compare with local guys.

    Dream on.

    As for racist it don't exist here or sometimes ' nick noi'

    East is East, West is West never should the twain meet...

  3. If you go to 7-11 read the egg packets carefully. the English is in very small letters. You can get boiled eggs (hard), soft boiled eggs and salted eggs. They have also now introduced another variety which I think is partley boiled. Haven't tried these (individually packed) eggs yet.

    The soft boiled are disgusting hardly cooked at all

    THat's what put me off them in the first place. Now I've been told hard-boiled are there I'll look again. TY

  4. Any Thai woman who gets seriously involved with a foreigner has some explaining to do.

    To whom, and exactly what the nature of this explanation involves depends almost entirely upon her family's position or their perceived position in the food chain.

    The Thai hierarchical system is the key here.

    The higher her family's position, the daughter of a doctor or a prominent businessman, the more explaining she will have to do.

    The lower her family's position, the daughter of a sam lor driver or a sharecropper, the less explaining she will have to do.

    This should be evident to all parties from the outset.

    If it is not evident, or if the need for explanation is blurred and obscured primarily by physical attraction and emotion there will be blowback in direct proportion to the woman's family's social standing.

    I have heard of Thai fathers and heads of family actually begging and imploring a foreigner to consider abandoning marriage plans.

    After a nice lunch another father invited his daughter's boyfriend back to his office.

    Over coffee he pulled file folders of three years credit card receipts from his desk drawer, placed them squarely in front of the prospective groom.

    He then asked him point blank if he was prepared to take over and support his daughter's shopping habits in addition to the normal responsibilities of raising a family. He added that although he hadn't spoiled his daughters he had always approved of their spending habits as a protection against inappropriate matrimonial choices.

    At the other end of the scale we have all heard of entire villages in Thailand's agricultural hinterlands celebrating the good fortune that comes from their daughter landing a farang tuna.

    Kind of works like that.

    and i have friends married into wealthy families where the heads of the thai families came to them and suggested the connection!

    I can match that. I've had friends whose TGFs made their farang boyfriends SWEAR not to tell their fathers that they were just 'friends' and not lovers.

    Sounds to me like your friends' families needed the financial support. Similar to the 1800s Europe when some gentry would marry foreign merchant women because they were asset-poor and land-rich.

    sorry to burst your imaginary bubble but that is a totally incorrect assessment

    No joke or imaginary world here it's the absolute truth and probably one that bursts your bubble of cognitive dissonance but it is what it is. I should add we aren't talking the Isaan tribe of Thais either. This was in the fertile rice-belt regions where many wealthy landowners live. The Thai Heartlands were farang are few and far between.

  5. I found in the past that a lot of women are very conscious of where her foreign b/f has been in Thailand, as are her friends and family.

    Those that met in Pattaya are more obvious targets for derision regarding the bar girl talk.

    Yet when a Thai woman meets a man in Nakhon nowhere, it is better for her status. She gets less derision aimed at her. Her family are better able to fend off the bar girl jibes too.

    Obviously it is more complex than that, but it is another point of view.

    Yes, but don't forget the Isaan tribes want to marry up the food chain. Money of course is one reason. Another is they are keen to breed with farang, young or old. This really traps them in Thailand. Fine if that's what the farang wants, but many times the looks on their faces is either blissful ignorance of what they have gotten themselves into or utter bitterness and loathing.

  6. I went to the Thong Lor one and found them wanting to do fillings were it was not needed!

    The X-Ray showed a couple of very minor cavities. Still they insisted, I told them I needed to go to an ATM.

    Instead I went straight to another dentist and the dentist would not find any sizable or worrying ones on inspection.

    I told her about the X-Ray results at the expensive place and she told me the small internal cavities are better left alone unless they become a problem.

    She saved me many baht and a year later still no issues.

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  7. Any Thai woman who gets seriously involved with a foreigner has some explaining to do.

    To whom, and exactly what the nature of this explanation involves depends almost entirely upon her family's position or their perceived position in the food chain.

    The Thai hierarchical system is the key here.

    The higher her family's position, the daughter of a doctor or a prominent businessman, the more explaining she will have to do.

    The lower her family's position, the daughter of a sam lor driver or a sharecropper, the less explaining she will have to do.

    This should be evident to all parties from the outset.

    If it is not evident, or if the need for explanation is blurred and obscured primarily by physical attraction and emotion there will be blowback in direct proportion to the woman's family's social standing.

    I have heard of Thai fathers and heads of family actually begging and imploring a foreigner to consider abandoning marriage plans.

    After a nice lunch another father invited his daughter's boyfriend back to his office.

    Over coffee he pulled file folders of three years credit card receipts from his desk drawer, placed them squarely in front of the prospective groom.

    He then asked him point blank if he was prepared to take over and support his daughter's shopping habits in addition to the normal responsibilities of raising a family. He added that although he hadn't spoiled his daughters he had always approved of their spending habits as a protection against inappropriate matrimonial choices.

    At the other end of the scale we have all heard of entire villages in Thailand's agricultural hinterlands celebrating the good fortune that comes from their daughter landing a farang tuna.

    Kind of works like that.

    and i have friends married into wealthy families where the heads of the thai families came to them and suggested the connection!

    I can match that. I've had friends whose TGFs made their farang boyfriends SWEAR not to tell their fathers that they were just 'friends' and not lovers.

    Sounds to me like your friends' families needed the financial support. Similar to the 1800s Europe when some gentry would marry foreign merchant women because they were asset-poor and land-rich.

  8. My "friend" just quit teaching in Africa for an oil services company where he was making $560 a day for 28 days and then got the free flight back to Thailand for 28 off days.

    He's almost 60 and wants to enjoy all the money he saved rather than continue the "rat race"

    Unless it's a professional-grade services instruction that price figure sounds like pure BS to me.

  9. Do thais discriminate against a thai woman with a farang boyfriend/husband?

    Yes and they sometimes openly comment about it also (but this is rare). However if you are in her home village it won't be too bad, you'd probably just be seen as a patron-farang.

    Typically Thais in mainstream circles tend to consider a women who marries a foreigner to be of low-status or even a prostitute. It won't be derogatory though it will be just matter-of-fact to them.

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  10. My hunch is it will hit 40 baht to the dollar within a year. A big bubble is about to burst much like 1997. The banks are loaning out huge amounts of money and no one soon will have the money to repay them. Everyone is in debt. Thailand like many countries never learns.

    We've been saying for 10 years this exact thing, but each year proves that talk wrong.

    Thailand's finances are too tight-stringed nowadays to let another '97 crash happen.

    You can shake those jungle vines jim, but there's no money gonna flutter down...

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  11. Of course it is not only one determining factor, as some people like to suppose, but rather a combination of many historical, cultural, social, economical, geographical and geopolitical factors.

    Some of these factors are probably more crucial than others, but I think that it is, in the end, a matter of personal opinion to determine what these factors are.

    It depends on the cultural background of the observer: an economist would probably disagree with a sociologist, an historian would still have another opinion and an anthropologist would perhaps call them all wrong.

    Being the curious ignorant that I am, I personally think it has not to be undervalued the incidence of the Chinese migration in Thai society. The Thai elite, both in the private and the public sector, is mostly made by people of Chinese descent. In the last century there was, and there's still today, a huge economical force in Thai economy coming from China, both in terms of wealth and in terms of leadership. To give you a measure of it, 1 Thai over 7 is ethnically Chinese, or mixed with Chinese, and the majority of them reside in the urban and economical centers.

    Even the largely famous, capillary Thai manufacturing sector, the small commerce, the familial and small businesses network, is mostly run by the Chinese-Thais, just like, say, the farming and the industrial workforce is mostly Thai.

    Culturally and economically speaking, the leading head of the Thai emerging middle class have an important component of China in it. Government offices, Universities, multinational companies' high ranks, are full of wealthy and well educated Chinese-Thais.

    I don't know very much of the Philippines, but I know in South East Asia only Malaysia (which is by the way another relatively successful economy) have a "Chinese factor" which is comparable to the Thai one (excluding countries which are basically China's satellites, such as Singapore and Hong Kong).

    In the Philippines, only 1 person over 100 has a Chinese origin.

    I'm not necessarily implying that the Chinese people have some sort of 'magic touch' for business, or that they are smarter, or so... but migration can be a very strong input for development and growth: Thailand had it, the Philippines didn't.

    The Thai people were from Chinese lands in the south of China from the start. The later waves of Chinese immigration augmented the Thai stock so to speak. The homogenous effects it produced were a good catalyst for the future of Thailand.

    However the migration to The Philippines was a different tale. You had a European force of mostly male men that migrated to an archipelago with an entirely foreign population racially. Over the centuries as this went on this wasn't a strong input for success and competing against the other Asian powers. So I'd add that the mingling of the blood didn't produce any 'hybrid-vigor' much beloved by cultural marxists, but in fact sowed the seeds of confusion, apathy and docility. The Catholic religion, another stranger to these people is something very remote and distant. It isn't as tangible than the Asian blend of Buddhism of Jainism etc.

    In Argentina for example it's a different story. They are probably on course to be one of the great successes of the southern hemisphere, yet that is also Catholic...

  12. Heck, why would an educated thai lady want to be with a farang ?

    Talk about life, no

    Talk about politics, no

    Dinner together, no

    Sex, maybe

    Raising kids crosscultural, no

    Living in farangland, no

    and so on and so on.

    It is merely, yes merely, all about money, security for the thai families. Different mindset in which education has nothing to do with. Give any thai woman the choice between a farang hubby and a thai, 99,9% of thai woman will choose a thai.

    Damaged goods. As long as one is aware, no problem.

    On a side note, there are very nice warmhearted ladies but lots of luck is involved meeting them. I was/am lucky.

    I dated a Thai lady, but she told me that only the lower-rung, more desperate women actually married foreigners for security first and foremost. Having said that she was a conservative and of yellow-shirt stock shall we say. The more liberal, lefty females from the Isaan provinces are more prone to hunting the farang down.

  13. 3 years of high school is hardly a diploma is it now? Ill hazard a guess...Im pretty sure the OP isnt looking for 7-11 staff

    Ok the smoking gun right? Its hardly a requirment to have diploma in Marine Biology, or a degree in Biochemistry that the barflys talk about.

    Yes I agree that these companies including 7-11 would require that there unskilled staff would need a third year high school education from Thailand so they can cover basic English and mathematics whilst on shift. This is equivalent to year 10 in Australia, which is the pre requisite for all menial jobs there.

    Now we are on the subject of educated Thai women... So lets establish this. The Thai public school system has a lot lower standards than the west. Considering that westerners do 4 years in quite reasonable schools. And we all know that Thais go to quite ordinary temple schools and public schools for 3 years to obtain their basic leaving certificate, this would suggest that the 7-11 staff arent all that educated.

    It looks like my theory is confirmed then, the barfly myth of staff in 7-11s, McDonalds and KFCs having degrees in Nuclear Physics is just that, a myth

    As I pointed out, less than 10% of Thais have ever attended high school.

    Currently after year 3, only 25% are allowed to stay on (want to or not).

    In Thailand, having a year 3 high school completion certificate makes you one of the Thai educated elite.

    I thought they had to have a degree to work there? A degree in Thailand isn't the same as the west though, attendance is key and hello degree.

  14. "I've seen guys here married, apparently, happily to local women."

    'Apparently' being the operative word here, to put in easier prospective to understand,

    marrying a local lady, is like a crap shoot, sometime you roll 7 but most of the time

    you roll snake eyes...

    Probabilities are not your strongest point I guess.

    Rolling snake eyes: 1 in 36 chance

    Rolling 7: 6 in 36 chance

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    In Thailand the dice are loaded for Isaan.

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  15. I was a public relations manager for many years based in Spain for a British and Spanish company based in Spain.

    During those times we were warned to beware of ex-pats. Spain, Greece and even some South American countries were havens for British, American and European criminals and undesirables. Later the police of different countries began to cooperate and soon those undesirables were easily detected and their activities exposed. These days for Westerners of little wealth, the criminal elements and undesirables, the word is that Thailand and some of it`s neighboring countries is the place to go. Unlike Spain and Greece, Thailand is geographically much further away, farangs now being more common place no longer stand out in the crowd as much as they used to, it has slack law enforcements, their money goes much further here, they can survive on a pittance and after just simply flying into the country farangs can easily hide their activities behind the scenes mostly unchallenged. Also once they arrive here, farangs can be anyone or anything they want people to believe, their past histories are not checked and literally have a freehand to do what they like providing they keep low profiles and don`t bring too many attentions to themselves. Soon after they have settled in they then tell their mates, the water’s fine, come on in. Most of them have never had it so good.

    The reasons why farangs here can be extremely unsociable, what I describe as giving the invisible treatment or the unapproachable hostile type stare are two fold. They are either undesirables and of dubious characters themselves therefore prefer to be given a wide berth by other ex-pats or suspect that other farangs they may happen to be sharing the same spaces with when out and about are of dubious characters that amounts to the same responses.

    Considering that Thailand, it`s neighbors and the Philippines have become the countries of choice for Western, African and Asian undesirables similar to South America, Spain and Greece back in the 1970s and 1980s, it is wise to be cautious of non Thais here. It is not like living with our fellow countrymen back home where it is easier to pick and choose our friends and the types we prefer to be associated with.

    One of the worst scammers I ever met was an American fat pig of a man. We are talking one of the best liars, with a litany of BS stories. I did some checking with one of his contacts and he confirmed it. He specialized in scam business investments. He was eventually rumbled though ( ;) ) and his business fell to sht. Last time I heard he ended up in Cambodia living in some sleaze-pit of a bar.

    The funny thing was this was not some desperate guy but someone with a military pension each month and he still pushed his luck.

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