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  1. 19 hours ago, BritTim said:

    In fact, the senior official at the immigration office has the discretion to waive the seasoning requirement. At many offices, they prefer you use an agent for the extension instead (at which point, the senior official does waive seasoning). However, it is known to happen for individuals. Before using an agent, I would ask to talk to the senior official to plead your case. If possible, take a respected Thai with you to help. If the official does waive the seasoning, buy a nice food item for the office to share to show your gratitude.

    And if the senior officer changes from the time previously then you are *******. I had my 800 G's in a fixed term account in a 'Credit Union' earning 6.25%. Never a problem. Then last year I walked in and was told a 'Credit Union'  isn't a 'bank'. Hang on. It gives interest on your account and it issues loans. If it looks like a fish and swims like a fish then................

    Anyways the senior officer refused to accept my application based on my monies not being in a Thai bank. Whereas before it was acceptable to have the monies in a 'Credit Union'. I had to pull my monies outta the 'Credit Union', drive 140km round trip  to put my monies into my Bangkok Bank account. Then they overlooked the 3 month seasoning rule and gave me my extension straight away.

    The easiest option would have been to issue my extension as per before, with notification that next year the money has to be in a 'Thai Bank'. <deleted>

     

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  2. 1 hour ago, al007 said:

    Living in KhonKaen my wife would have to get my body to Chula

    The teaching hospital in KK accept body donations.I knew an old guy who donated himself to them. When he died they kept the body at the nearest hospital to where he lived that had a mortuary. In his case, Nang Rong. They then used the body for about 12 months before finally disposing of what was left at a ceremony held at Suranaree University of Techknowledgey Hospital, just outside of Korat. On final cremation the family are invited to the ceremony. Job done.

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  3. 1 hour ago, Tanoshi said:

    Have your tried exiting the Country and re-entering on the so called Visa you obtained from Immigration using a TM7.

     

    It would by your definition of a Visa allow you to enter Thailand.

    Like most things in Thailand, rules and laws are to be open to interpretation, their interpretation. You may well be right in that my, the legal interpretation, definition of a visa should allow re-entry. But typical Thailand in that what it gives you with one hand, ie a 30 day visa free, it takes it off you in another way by getting yous to pay re-entry fees. This 30 day visa free is all a load of nonsense. Salesmanship.

    That's all I can think of why they charge you for a exit/re-entry visa. You'll have to take it up with them.   :smile: Good luck.

  4. 1 hour ago, Tanoshi said:

    A TM7 is an application to Apply for an Extension of permission to stay in Thailand.

    It is a permit, not a Visa.

    It does not allow any entries to Thailand, unlike a Visa which would allow at least one entry.

    No it is not a 'permit'. A TM7 is an application to obtain a visa (extension of stay). A visa being a stamp in ones passport. Some may see it as an 'extension of stay only' but it is in fact a visa. Per sa.

     

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    An official endorsement on a passport or other document required to secure an alien's admission to a country. 

    http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/visa

     

     
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    What is the difference between a permit and a visa?
    The difference between visa and work permit is that visa is a document acquired by an individual to enter a specific country whereas work permit is an employment letter issued by an employer to the employee needed for entering the country. ... The immigrant visa allows the immigrant to acquire residence and work.

     

    www.differencebetween.net/business/difference-between-visa-and-work-permit/
     
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  5. 7 minutes ago, MickTurator said:

    Have you read the title at the top of the TM7 form ?

    It is not a visa

    Have you ever read the legal definition of 'Visa'??? The TM7 is not a 'visa', I agree. It's the application to obtain one. Only when you get that stamp in your passport does it become a 'visa'.

     

     
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    visa
    ˈviːzə/
    noun
     
    1. an endorsement on a passport indicating that the holder is allowed to enter, leave, or stay for a specified period of time in a country.

     

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  6. 4 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

    You have to be in the country already to get an extension of stay. A visa only allows you to enter the country.

    Your list is not complete. You seem to of forgotten there are 2 other options to meet the financial requirements.

    A '30 day exemption' allows you 30 days of stay. Although they claim it's not visa it is. No stamp no entry.

     

    5 minutes ago, steve187 said:

    so a re-entry permit is a visa.

     Any stamp in a passport giving permission to enter/stay is a visa.

     

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    It can vary office to office.

    I based my list of requirements based on my Retirement Extension done on Wednesday.  As you said UJ, in an earlier post.

    So always be prepared, and if in doubt phone your office first.  :smile:

  7. 38 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

    I assume you mean you want to apply for an extension of stay (it is not a visa)

    Any stamp giving permission to enter a country, entered into your passport, is a 'visa'. 

     

    Application form TM7. Duly filled out.

    Photo copies of all pages of other visas (extensions of stay) No photo required. They check your facial features online.

        "       copy of your photo and personal details

        "                  "            departure card

        "                  "            proof of abode plus Yellow book if have.

    Letter from bank confirming monies in.

    Filled out declaration of you knowing the penalties for overstay etc.

    Bank book updated to that day of reporting.

     

    That's about it good luck in that they don't add something else to the list as they see fit..

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  8. 10 minutes ago, Aditi Sharma said:

     

    Sinbin for all you know they might answer the call in chaste Thai and you might not feel like complaining. I honestly think Thai culture and complaining dont go well together. I think one can do all one's complaining here. Yeah, for whatever it is worth :-) 

    If there's any confusion on my speaking with a Thai at the end of the phone my wife is/was quite prepared to speak with them. I'm not so much as wanting to complain but to define as to whether Buriram IO was correct in not issuing my extension after excepting my extensions previously. After all IO's have been wrong in the past. Refusing to accept online reporting and doing 3rd parties reporting are just 2 examples. .

  9. 8 minutes ago, elviajero said:

    Do they really need to spell it out. If in doubt I suggest you talk to immigration.

     

    I tried to do that today but their 1111 number isn't talking to anyone.

     

    8 minutes ago, elviajero said:

    A married man has a reason to be in the country.

    But would they let him stay if he didn't have any money? Would they take into consideration his Children?

     

    8 minutes ago, elviajero said:

    I spent far more when I was single than I do as a married man with two kids!

    I'm opposite. Private education ain't cheap . I have 3 kids.

     

    8 minutes ago, elviajero said:

    Probably because Thailand, as a society, believes that husbands take care of their wives financially.

     

    You're taking the Michael. I'm sure you don't even believe that?

  10. 42 minutes ago, elviajero said:

    The money in the bank is supposed to be the money you live on for the 1 year or your temporary permit to stay.

    It doesn't say that exactly in the rules.

     

    So why does a single man have to show double to a married man that may have many children? I think the married man should show 800,000 and the single guy only 400,000. Fairs fair.

    And why doesn't a farang lady, married to a Thai man, have to show any income at all? The reason I ask this is cus the farang lady that lives near me works and her Thai hubby doesn't support her. A little hypocritical is immigration in my book.

  11. 1 hour ago, stevenl said:

    See a few posts above yours, 1178 would have to be called, not 1111.

    You call 1178. God knows who they are?  

     

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    Bangkok, 20 March, 2015 – The Royal Thai Government has launched a new 1111 hotline to receive complaints from foreigners in Thailand, in addition to the existing 1155 Tourist Police Call Centre.

    http://www.tatnews.org/thai-government-launches-1111-hotline-receive-complaints-from-foreigners/

  12. 32 minutes ago, Aditi Sharma said:

    IMNSHO the immigration ought not to have a say on where he invests his money. 

    Because the Cooperative cannot do international transactions (banking) I still had to use a commercial bank to bring my money into the country 

     

    2 minutes ago, 007 RED said:

    In the eyes of Thais, all foreigners are Farangs.... 

    That is not true. Japanese are Yipoon and blacks are Negro

  13. 46 minutes ago, stevenl said:

    I must say though I don't understand you.

     

    In the past you had issues with a fixed deposit at real banks getting recognised by immigration. So you decide to open a fixed deposit with a cooperative. Not a smart move IMO, and asking for problems.

    I HAD issues before but overcame them once they allowed 'fixed term' accounts. On top of that I asked before I took out an account with the Cooperative and I was assured it was acceptable. So much so that they gave me my extension based on the letter from the Coop. So they <deleted> up or maybe they didn't? Time will tell.

  14. 47 minutes ago, Aditi Sharma said:

    Other than cultivating them, I dont see they have any scope for job satisfaction. You see what I mean? Carry some sweets, flowers, prod them to do a good job for ya.

     

    When I used to use either Korat or Kap Choeng in the past I used to feel like throwing up as I watched farangs place a bag of goodies on the floor next to them and slowly slide it with their foot to the officers side of the desk. 

    I really can't see any of them having job satisfaction unless they're posted to the likes of Pattaya where the tea money must roll in. Kap Choeng must be, IMO, a punishment posting. I went to KC once on a Friday, arriving just after 11am. I was told I was lucky to arrive before they all went home at 12. I said 'you work a full day on a Friday, don't you?' 'Yes but we all want to go home so we're closing early.' Just about shows their attitude.:sleep:

  15. If every time I accepted the sh1t immigration threw at me I'd basically be there permanently. In the 12 years I've been here I've lost count of the times I've been refused an extension because my monies were in a 'Fixed term' account. Not just a Coop account. And after standing up to them they've backeddown each time they've questioned it. At one time I got refused because my monies was in two separate accounts. Half in a fixed term, half in an ordinary account. The Officer at that time accused my wife of trying to make him look stupid. It was me applying not my wife. He threw the books on the desk and walked out. The senior lady office at the time Kap Choeng picked them up and gave me my extension. Now who's in the right?

    Just because an officer says something doesn't make him/her correct.

  16. On 10/7/2017 at 12:58 PM, Aditi Sharma said:

    But that's quibbling over words. The question is one of funds which the OP had. He should have been let off with a warning. And they should have put a board outside saying a co-operative is not a bank. Why make someone go back with a wrinkle?

     

    That is what I asked. I asked if they could give my extension this time and I'll sort things out for next time. After all I've been allowed my extension a number of other times and it didn't make any difference. Suddenly they can overlook the seasoning time my money has to be in another bank, one week, but they can't overlook giving it to me now.

  17. On 10/6/2017 at 11:20 AM, Shiver said:

     Putting together other posters points it seems more important that fast access has to be possible

    Not correct. The IO will accept 'Fixed Term' bank accounts. 

    On 10/6/2017 at 12:34 PM, stevenl said:

    Was your money with the cooperative accessible without any financial penalty 

    No, But that is irrespective because my 'Fixed Term' was done to match my extension requirements. Been in 'Fixed Term' account now for my Visa for over 10 years. Not all those years with the Coop btw.  

    On 10/6/2017 at 2:59 PM, Just Weird said:

    One IO overlooking the official requirement in the past is not setting a precedent for future applications.

    No one really says they are but just maybe they were correct in the past and this time they're wrong. As I said 'there were 4 officers that were reading the rule book and as far as I could make out they didn't all agree but the top man got the final say.' This time.

    On 10/6/2017 at 3:05 PM, BritTim said:

    If the law is intended to allow accounts in financial institutions other than banks, it should say so.

    That is the sticking point. We do not truly know what the official translation is. They certainly wouldn't me or the wife have a gander at it' It could say 'Financial Institution' in Thai but on translation, due to how clever the translator is, it come down as 'bank' to make matters easier for himself.

     

    Sorry for late replies I've been away.

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